I don't think I missed the point at all, Keith. I have wondered what people look like after years of paleo.  I understand we all have to factor in personal genetics, personal practice as variables.  At least when I started this whole crazy trip, Ray was out there posing in a loincloth with a spear for the Dallas interview.  Now that really seemed honest to me.   I rarely post much to this list, but when I do its usually not trivial girl talk. I never really agreed with Cordain's approach to Paleo.   I would die if I ate diet plan in  his earlier books, and yes I did read them cover to cover when I wasn't having a blonde moment.  .....skinless low fat meat and steamed veggies with lots of fruit????  I hardly think our ancestors lived off the South Beach version of paleo.    I am not a bubble head and don't read celebrity mags, or if I do its while I'm waiting to check out my meat ladened cart at the grocery store....LOL.   
 
I was farily tongue in check when I posted, and if you re-read my post you will see I anticipated backlash before my fingers even pressed  the send button  So, I guess I sort of asked for it....
 
And really, to be completely honest and serious for a moment -  I do want to know that a lifestyle to which  I devote so much energy, which socially isolates me at times and dictates how I live  will deliver the goods when I'm 61.  Isn't that common sense?  Why else are we doing paleo?  Philosophy only goes so far.   Shouldn't people who put themselves on the line in the public eye who write books and give lectures,  delivering research that they hope will turn our head to their direction be role models to a certain extent?    
 
Best,
Batsheva
 
 


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From: Keith Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: YouTube interview with Loren Cordain

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:50:05 -0700, Batsheva wrote:

And you want him - at 61 with a demanding job - to also meet your physique expectations? He mentions in this video his sons, who have been brought up on a palaeo diet - perhaps we should look at them rather than their dad, who - like so many of his vintage - were seduced for a decade or two by vegan and vegetarian diets that, we now know, can do lasting damage, damage that may or may not ever manifest itself in body shape or complexion.

So I think you miss the point. Let's not trivialize Dr Cordain's work by diverting us into a discussion of his appearance. This is not about "celebrity culture", even though you may find a radically dumbed-down discussion a more comfortable paradigm for debate. I would rather debate Cordain's approach to exercise or whether his criticisms of milk (I drink fresh raw - that's unhomogenized, not pastuerized - as a probiotic) apply to all populations.

Keith