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>   1. solid foods for babies (2)
>   2. Email Change
>   3. the "perils of childbirth" -- question for Ray
>   4. Dark honey as meat preservative and anti-oxidant
>   5. Commercial Veal Heart Quality? (2)
>   6. Fish oil articles
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:18:52 +0000
>From:    Debra Kierstead <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: solid foods for babies
>
>Mary,
>
>No he was not vaccinated.  He has never had anything put into his body
>except breastmilk and then he got interested in food around 6 months.  He is
>just dying to eat food and gets very upset if anyone eats in front of him
>without sharing!  He was a bit colicky too even before he started solids but
>I worked at changing my diet and it helped, though I admit I am not a full
>paleo eater at present.
>
>He also is getting his 3rd and 4th tooth so that may be part of the problem.
>   But he seems worse after eating and he does have lots of gas and
>intestinal troubles.  I have only given him meat and veggies, never any
>grain or potatoes.
>
>I'll get a hold of Neanderthin to read.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Debbie
>
>
> >>Debbie, was the child vaccinated? The various vaccines can irritate the
> >intestines and colon. Try pemmican as a food. Read Ray's book, NEANDERTHIN.
> >  You can get it thru Amazon or thru interlibrary loan at your library.
> >
> >
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:01:48 -0500
>From:    Ray Audette <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Email Change
>
>From: Possum Hunter
> > Due to the changes at Yahoo that has made their services nearly >useless ,
>I will no longer be using my Yahoo email address.
>
>I recently began getting SPAM from them telling me about people joining and
>leaving a NeanderThin Yahoo Group.  After much trial and error, waiting for
>them to issue me a new password and verify my e-mail address ( two days! ),
>I was able to become a "member" and access the membership list ( 89 souls ).
>Low and behold I was listed as the founder and "owner" of this group.  Not
>bad considering I had never been to this site before.
>
>I'm glad I've never sent a credit card number to Yahoo.  God only knows what
>I'd be an "owner" of today!
>
>Ray Audette
>Author "NeanderThin"
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:22:32 -0500
>From:    Ray Audette <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: the "perils of childbirth" -- question for Ray
>
>From: Jana Eagle >
> > I am just wondering if you have some evidence about paleolithic
> > childbirths and death statistics or if you are taking the modern-day
> > media images of the traumatic operating room childbirth and
> > transferring it onto paleolithic times.
>
>I didn't mean to leave this impression.  From studies cited by Stefansson,
>hunter-gatherers have far less trauma and labor in childbirth than do
>agricultural women.  Just removing the hazards of gestational diabetes often
>found in modern women ( resulting in very large babies) would improve these
>statistics considerably but I suspect much more is involved.
>
>When Gray-Hawk ( seven on May 14th ) was born, it was without doctors or
>drugs.  We arrived at the mid-wives at 3:15 PM and he arrived at 5:20 after
>2 hours of mild labor ( his mother made more noise concieving him ;).  As my
>prediction, five months earlier, of the easiest birth they had ever seen
>came true, the midwives bought six copies of my book.
>
>After one year he weaned himself from his mother and would eat almost
>nothing but Pemmican for the next year.  About the only exceptions were
>watered-down fruit juice and pork rinds for teething.
>
>Ray Audette
>Author "NeanderThin"
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:58:55 -0400
>From:    Fawn Bales <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: solid foods for babies
>
> >He also is getting his 3rd and 4th tooth so that may be part of the
>problem.
> >But he seems worse after eating and he does have lots of gas and
> >intestinal troubles.  I have only given him meat and veggies, never any
> >grain or potatoes.
> >Debbie
>
>
>Have you tried him on fruit yet?  I had mine on the standard
>"rice-oats-wheat" progression, but I started my two with fruit.  You
>might want to separate fruit feedings from breastfeeding, not sure how
>well it goes down with breastmilk.  I also started mine with sweet
>potatoes.  Mine loved them, and they are very nutritious, inexpensive
>and easy to cook from scratch.
>
>If you do decide to give him grains, stick with rice or oats.  As I
>recall, white potatoes aren't recommended until after the first year,
>even in the "standard American diet". =20
>
>If he's having a lot of gas, you might also want to consider what you
>are eating.  If you are eating alot of gassy foods or onions and garlic,
>it can cause indigestion in babies through the breastmilk.=20
>
>Teething can cause a lot of aggravation, and finding him something to
>chaw on might help too.  I found that keeping a couple of damp wash
>cloths to chew on in the freezer helped as well as letting them chew on
>my fingers. =20
>
>Forgive me if I've lost track of this thread - but did you say that he
>was 10 months old?  In my experience, 10 month olds really like to eat
>and play with food and will indeed get upset if you don't "share" with
>them.  As long as he's getting breast milk, too, solids are fine at this
>age.  (Okay - NOT so solid - mushes.)  Pretty much any wholesome clean
>food that you eat is safe for them to try, as long as its prepared in
>textures that are safe and is unseasoned.  It is certainly not too
>early.  You can nurse as long as both you and the baby enjoy it and want
>to, but babies are ready to start eating foods as soon as they show an
>interest.=20
>
>Fawn
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:31:06 -0700
>From:    Mark Plus <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Dark honey as meat preservative and anti-oxidant
>
>This article is definitely relevant to a discussion of the merits of Paleo
>foods.
>
>Link to,
>
>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020409073427.htm
>
>Mark Plus
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:33:20 -0500
>From:    "Joseph R." <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Commercial Veal Heart Quality?
>
>Hello,
>
>I bought a veal heart at the grocery store the other day. I had been wanting
>to eat more organ meats for quite a while.
>Can anyone tell me a little about the quality of a commercial veal heart?
>I realize that organic is always best, but I haven't gotten around to buying
>any organic organs online yet.
>
>Thank you for any input.
>
>Joseph R.
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:38:43 +0000
>From:    ginny wilken <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Commercial Veal Heart Quality?
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I bought a veal heart at the grocery store the other day. I had been wanting
> >to eat more organ meats for quite a while.
> >Can anyone tell me a little about the quality of a commercial veal heart?
> >I realize that organic is always best, but I haven't gotten around to buying
> >any organic organs online yet.
> >
> >Thank you for any input.
> >
> >Joseph R.
>
>Well, one thing to consider is that veal is probably butchered so young it
>has not eaten grain. The flip side is that it is fed on milk from grain-fed
>cows. As you probably know, there is terrific controversy on veal
>production, and it's possible to imagine very stressed animals fed a lot of
>antibiotics. I, too, would appreciate more input on this topic.
>
>ginny
>
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>Date:    Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:40:58 -0400
>From:    Don Wiss <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Fish oil articles
>
>Summaries of the latest research concerning fish oils and diet and weight
>control
>
>http://www.oilofpisces.com/weightcontrol.html
>
>Don.
>
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