Ok, this info is coming to you from me via Dr. Loren
Cordain.  HE said the amount of n6:n3 in US beef is
actually around 15:1.  Perhaps I am getting the w's
and n's confused.  N's being lineoleic...???  But the
15:1  is what he told me.  Just reporting what I was
told.
On another note: Can we really trust the USDA?  If
anyone has read "the Oiling of America" I might
seriously question what they have to say about certain
sources of meat. I tried to post the link but it was
down.  I'll post it later.

Kenny B.

--- Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Ben Balzer wrote:
>
> > > I challenge the w3 to w6 ratio in today's grain
> fed
> > > beef in Todd's post, the ratio is more like 1:11
> of w6
> > > to w3. In the Nicholson interview he states:
> >
> > I think you mean 11:1
> > Actually just found a similar section in the Omega
> Diet, Artemis Simopoulos
> > (actually she's the editor of the same World
> Review of Nutrition and
> > Dietetics that Loren Cordain's "Ceral Grains :
> Humaities Double Edged Sword"
> > appeared in, as welll as prominent NIH posts in
> the past). Sorry TOdd, looks
> > like I was right.
>
> Ben and Kenny, the thing to do is to go to the USDA
> database and
> check for yourselves.  This is what I finally did.
> Choosing the
> basic "composite retail cuts" category, you will
> find that the
> w6:w3 ratio is exactly 2:1.  Like you, I used to
> have the
> impression that it was much higher than that, and I
> probably
> posted messages to that effect here until somebody
> else checked
> and corrected me.
>
> So, the ratio is not bad.  The fats in question here
> are
> lineoleic acid and linolenic acid.  The absolute
> amounts are
> small.  This is not a problem, since only tiny
> amounts are needed
> to make the prostaglandins.
>
> The USDA lists the EPA and DHA content of beef as
> zero, but I did
> some checking on wild game meats, and they are
> generally not
> better.  This, of course, is just *meat* and not
> brains, etc.
>
> Anyway, as Ward pointed out, it appears that beef
> itself does not
> cause the omega fat imbalance; it's the other
> sources of w6 fats
> that have entered our diet.  Because the absolute
> amounts of w6
> and w3 fats in beef are small, it is very easy for
> the ratios to
> be altered drastically when we start eating even
> moderate amounts
> of refined vegetable oils.
>
> Todd Moody
> [log in to unmask]
>


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