On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, matesz wrote:

> Btw:  Some people will get into ketosis and stay there and lose body fat at
> 30, 40, 50 or even 60 grams of carbs.  Some folks will cut carbs to 30
> grams, 20 grams or less and not get into ketosis, or if they are in ketosis,
> not lose weight because they end up eating so much protein and/or fat to
> feel satisfied and energetic that they have no calorie deficit and therefore
> their bodies have no need to burn body fat.

This seems to have been my previous experience with ketosis,
eating mainly meat and vegetables.  My appetite was enormous and
I lost little or no fat this way.  It is the one thing I notice
that is different in my current experiment.  For some reason, the
Anchell foods help to control my appetite, even in small
portions.  Previously, I would have a substantial portion of meat
and a salad, with a bit of olive oil.  Upon finishing that I
would have a keen desire for more meat, and maybe more again.
Now I have that same portion of meat, then the scoop of
blueberries or whatever, and I'm done.  I don't know why.  I am
permitted, on this diet, to have more meat, but for some reason I
generally don't want any more.  Maybe it's psychological.

Incidentally, after 4 weeks of this I am down about 18 lbs. and
beginning to see some muscle definition.  There's still some
abdominal fat, but not much.

Todd Moody
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