On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Philip Thrift wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:37 +0100, Andy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >One can not say that ID theory makes no assumptions about the
> >identity of the designer and is also scientific. If ID theory is
> >scientific,
> >then any designer must reside within the universe.
>
> As origin of life theories show (based totally on known chemical
> models), there is just no need for a designer (nothing useful is
> added). Ockam's Razor ?

Before you or anyone else takes these theories as having settled
or "shown" anything, read some of the quotations at
http://id-www.ucsb.edu/fscf/library/origins/quotes/OL.html

And please not that most of these are not by ID theorists.

Todd Moody
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