On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:12:36 -0500 Ilya <[log in to unmask]> writes:
>Janine Rae wrote:
>> I have not written in a long time but have been following this whole
>> debate for days.  My question is, am I the only one who found Ilya
>and
>> Robert Husby to be just as "rude, childish, etc" as Robert Cohen.
>One
>> cannot argue with oneself.  Were these other people removed also?
>> Idea?  Try removing them and reinstating R. Cohen.

Ilya wrote:
>Could you please give an example of me being rude, childish, etc.?

Ilya,
Unfortunately I did not save all the exchanges between yourself and Mr.
Cohen and I cannot recall exactly what you said that made me feel the
argument was 1/2 yours, not one sided childish.  The "etc." in my
statement I guess would include the word "lengthy" or some similar
adjective.  I wrote a 5 line opinion about Robert's removal.  You
responded with 33 lines.  In an effort to not take up any more No-milk
space with this silliness.  NEVER MIND.
Janine

>I did argue, but I thought there was an important point(s) to make,
>on subjects of interest to this list which I made calmly. I did not
>call anyone names, and did try to stick to the argument at hand.
>I did point out that Roberts style is to respond with a volume of
>anti-milk/anti-dairy statements to virtually any challange of his
>statements. (Please realise that I have been a subscriber to this
>list since the beginning and have had arguments with him before,
>thus very familiar with his style. Thus my remarks to that effect).
>I do NOT dispute that milk/dairy consumption has various
>undesirable effects on people. I do NOT defend milk/dairy, nor am
>I trying to convince people on this list to eat dairy. What I do want
>is information about these negative effects, exactly what causes them,
>and possible ways to avoid some of them. Milk allergies/sensitivities
>are not the only dietary problems out there. I have to restrict my
>diet rather drastically for other health reasons. Avoiding all dairy
>for
>me would make my diet very hard. That's why I want to know exactly
>what
>I can and can not eat and why. I hope you don't consider people with
>other sensitivities unwelcome on this list.
>
>Unlike Robert I also do not consider recipie discussions boring or
>inappropriate - I understand that that's exactly the reason most
>people are on this list. I simply would like to be able to discuss
>some of the issue of interest to me as well on this list sometimes,
>which I do very rarely. The reason I butted in and responded to Cohen
>is because he was making blatantly untrue statements that no one else
>seemed to be disputing at the time. His interpretation
>of various hormonal health effects is completely off. Even so, when
>some people on the list expressed a desire for me to stop I did
>(without 'agreeing to stop' with Robert, as he claimed). I personally
>do not intend to continue a discussion when it is not wanted by
>the listeners.
>
>This is my one and only post defending myself to this list. If
>anyone wants to respond, please do so privately.
>
>Ilya
>