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Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>
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vermente es le parola.
KjR
MacLeod Dave skrev 2013-06-28 00:49:
> Si Interlingua veramente debe esser un lingua romance, pro quo non haber
> conjugation del verbos, genere grammatical, etc.? Isto seria le passo
> sequente. Si le lingua es create pro communicar con parlatores romance, io
> non vole sempre dicer "io es, illes es", etc., tro innatural. Interlingua
> pote esser un lingua pan-romance o un lingua pan-(west)europee, ma non
> ambes.
>
>
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> 2013/6/27 Paul Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>
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>> Un error. :( Io intendeva expedir ad INTERLNG integre, e non solmente a
>> Stan ipse.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 27 Jun 2013 17:27:09 -0400, Paul Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Martedi, le 27 junio 2013 15:02:34 -0400, Mulaik, Stanley A <
>>> [log in to unmask]**edu <[log in to unmask]>>
>>> scribeva:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Interlingua jam es morte, Paul, in le forma del parve gruppo de
>>>> personas qui lo usa. Cata anno plus mori. Facer emphase super un
>>>> variante del lingua que usa formas contrari al rationamento e theoria
>>>> de su elaboration, solmente proque su usatores non esseva
>>>> sophisticate linguisticamente como su creatores non va
>>>> impressionar le autoritates politic e linguistic del meritos
>>>> del lingua. Interlingua non es un esperanto, ni un occidental.
>>>> Illo es un extraction e standardization objective del elementos commun
>>>> in le major linguas de Europa e le Hemisphero Occidental. A causa de
>>>> isto illo es un
>>>> lingua ric in vocabulario. E mesmo si nos mori, le mesme lingua
>>>> pote esser extracte de iste linguas parlate per centos de milliones.
>>>>
>>> Per favor, vider mi essayo (in anglese) "Thoughts on IAL Success"
>>> http://www.panix.com/~**bartlett/thoughts.html<http://www.panix.com/~bartlett/thoughts.html>. Il ha duo factores critic: "Good Enough" (bastante bon) e "Stable Base"
>>> (fundamento stabile). Io scribeva (e continua asserer):
>>>
>>> "My point with this factor is that theoretical optimality is all well and
>>> good, but it is not at all sufficient by itself to ensure acceptance and
>>> use of an IAL, whereas another suboptimal but "good enough" language, taken
>>> together with other factors, may have relatively more success."
>>>
>>> e
>>>
>>> "Some conIAL designers fall into tinkering, ever striving for
>>> "perfection" as they see it. But as Andrew Large pointed out in his _The
>>> Artificial Language Movement_ ([Oxford]: Basil Blackwell, 1985; ISBN
>>> 0-631-14497-8; p. 154),
>>>
>>> 'Like the alchemists of old, artificial language projectors are not
>>> easily deterred by others' failures. They doggedly cling to the belief that
>>> success can be achieved if only the right mixture of ingredients can be
>>> blended in the correct proportions.'
>>>
>>> Sooner or later, people have to quit tinkering and _use_ something
>>> instead of dissipating the energy of the conIAL movement. Many people learn
>>> Esperanto in order to use it without getting deeply involved in
>>> metaconsiderations. Some people seem to get involved with conIALs for the
>>> sake of discussing them endlessly and never get around to trying to build a
>>> significant user community which will not spend its time talking about the
>>> language almost as if it were an end in itself rather than as a means to an
>>> end: improved human communication and understanding."
>>>
>>> Io renega tu assertion que "Interlingua jam es morte," sed io assere que
>>> essayos de facer que illo se conforma ad un puritate linguistic theoric lo
>>> occidera vermente. Io specula que "le autoritates politic e linguistic" non
>>> se interesa in re le characteristicas theoric del lingua. Lor question es,
>>> "Esque illo functiona ben como un lingua auxiliar?"
>>>
>>> Si, Stan, io es un "esperantisto" in re interlingua. Io lo dice fermente.
>>> Io cerca un ver lingua auxiliar. Interlingua pote esser (es) un tal, sed
>>> solmente si nos cessa persequer le sonio inutile de perfection theoric. A
>>> mi aviso, simplemente "un extraction e standardization objective del
>>> elementos commun in le major linguas de Europa e le Hemisphero Occidental"
>>> es un perdita del tempore e del effortio. Si, io es un "esperantisto." (E
>>> de novo, io non desira que interlingua deveni Ancora Un Altere Lingua
>>> Romanic.)
>>>
>>> Io non accepta tu propositiones theoric, e tu non accepta mi
>>> propositiones practic. Simplemente nos disaccorda, e probabilemente necun
>>> convincera le altere.
>>>
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