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Brother Demba,

I believed Hon. Mai Fatty was genuine because after hearing of the G6 statement, I tried to call Syngle from my party and not being able to get him, I contacted whose details I have. He told me exactly what he's just stated. Therefore it would be wrong and unfair for anyone to criticise him now. His party's position was made clear to me and many others he spoke to. Despite political differences people need to look at broader pictures not character assa



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On 3 Sep 2012, at 06:02, "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



> The G-6 was formed after the Presidential elections and shortly before

> the parliamentary elections. If you recall, it was the G6 who called

> for electoral reform and postponement of the paliamentary elections.

> They collectively decided to boycott the elections - Except for Hamat

> Bah whose party decided to contest the parliamentary elections...

> 

> The question Cousin Haruna is not about forming or who is part of the

> Group. The question is given the public outcry that GMC and its

> leadership have engaged on since the executions, one would think that

> they would be consulted before the statement was issues or at least

> they would have made their position clear...

> 

> The facts here is that there is no genuine constitutional rule in

> Gambia - Most of the group of 6 believes otherwise..

> 

> There is no independent justice system or impatiality of the courts in

> Gambia - Most of the G6 don't believe it because they go to court

> 

> President Jammeh doesn't listen to them or give them audience - they

> don't believe it thus they will not be writing endless letters to him

> without even getting a single response...

> 

> There is no House of Parliament but a rubber stamping ill educated

> reps who are only there to receive salaries - G6 don't seems to

> believe that the House don't have the independence and credibility to

> pass worthy laws...

> 

> At a time when the International community and the Gambia Diaspora

> outrightly condemned Jammeh for sumarily executing prisoners, the G6

> or G whatever are constitutionally trying to justify the executions by

> referencin the constitution.

> 

> That is the issue here and as far as many Gambians are concern the

> Group of ? have lost every credibility and moral leadership just like

> Jammeh. That is the position of many sober minded Gambians.

> 

> Thanks and Good night..

> 

> Demba

> 

> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> GMC is a founder member of The Group of 6 opposition Parties (otherwise

>> known as G6 - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I wonder what GMC helped found if it was a founding member of G-6??????????

>> What is G-6? Do they have any

>> 

>> documents of Association - IF VOLUNTARY? What are the terms of engagement in

>> this voluntary framework?

>> 

>> I am reminded the UN is a voluntary framework also.

>> 

>> We shall remain engaged within this voluntary framework, working with our

>> colleagues in the

>> opposition - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Working with colleagues in the opposition to do what???? I don't remember

>> this G-6 being formed before the murder

>> 

>> so foul as my friend Saul is wont to quip!! If it is not formed prior to the

>> outrage against the murders so foul, then it

>> 

>> would appear to be adhoc.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> We have participated at all G6 sessions - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> and we intend to continue to do so in the future. - Hon. Fatty.  To do

>> what??????

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> We have no intention of withdrawing

>> from G6 unless circumstances require a review of the

>> 

>> relevance of our continuing membership in the Group. - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I wonder if GMC was expressly invited to join this VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATION or

>> is it that the GMC expressed its

>> 

>> interest in participating in G-6??

>> 

>> If such a need emerged, we shall not hesitate to act and make our views

>> public. - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> I would hope that Hon. Fatty informs the G-6 when the need emerges to

>> withdraw from the voluntary G-6

>> as opposed to run to the press first!! There is generally some protocol for

>> conduct when political parties

>> come together for any purpose. This attitude of fair-weather opportunism

>> portends ominous yield for GMC.

>> I'm a bit disappointed in GMC.

>> 

>> On the issue of the recent letter meant for the authorities on the

>> death penalty circulating online, GMC wishes to make it known crystal

>> clear that as much as we remain part of the G6 and ready to continue

>> to work on common issues, we do not subscribe to the contents of the

>> said letter. It does not carry our signature or endorsement. We have

>> no part to do with it. - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> Is it the protocol of the G-6 that all voluntary members must sign and or

>> endorse all work-product of G-6??

>> Did GMC participate in the yielding of that position and GMC only disagrees

>> with the publication of the G-6

>> Letter?? But shared the exact same position publicly elsewhere??

>> 

>> GMC had expressed its views publicly in the media and during

>> consultations with diplomatic representatives of the international

>> community on both the death penalty and the executions. We do not see

>> the logic of writing to the National Assembly or Yaya Jammeh again

>> on

>> this issue. - Hon. Fatty.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The keyword is again.

>> 

>> This estrangement letter is really unnecessary. Especially after a few

>> voices, who do not understand it, railing against it.

>> 

>> I'm tired.

>> Haruna.

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Haruna <[log in to unmask]>

>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>

>> Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 11:42 pm

>> Subject: Re: [G_L] GMC Dissociates itself from the Statement of the Group

>> 6!!

>> 

>> I suppose we should call it the GROUP of 5 now Demba: G-5. Until another

>> member of the G-5 bails then we call it G-4 until we get to G-1. I'm

>> beginning to think that the newspaper that first published the letter coined

>> that G-6 title. I would be surprised if the purveyor of the letter him or

>> herslf called it the G-6 position.

>> 

>> If GMC had played no part in the content or formulation of the letter, to

>> include them in any G-6 was misleading de-minimis. Or is it that GMC

>> regretted the part it played in the letter (content and drafting) on account

>> of the tempestuous loudmouths' reaction to it. It is worth investigating. I

>> am perfectly satisfied with the letter as an initial step. I do not know

>> what GMC saw in it that warrants their dissociation from it after the fact.

>> 

>> This English language is not easy!!!!!

>> 

>> Haruna.

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>

>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>

>> Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 11:18 pm

>> Subject: [G_L] GMC Dissociates itself from the Statement of the Group 6!!

>> 

>> GMC DISSOCIATES ITSELF FROM G6 LETTER TO THE AUTHORITIES

>> 

>> 

>> Let me express that GMC is a founder member of The Group of 6

>> opposition Parties (otherwise known as G6). We shall remain engaged

>> within this voluntary framework, working with our colleagues in the

>> opposition. We have participated at all G6 sessions, and we intend to

>> continue to do so in the future. We have no intention of withdrawing

>> from G6 unless circumstances require a review of the relevance of our

>> continuing membership in the Group. If such a need emerged, we shall

>> not hesitate to act and make our views public.

>> 

>> On the issue of the recent letter meant for the authorities on the

>> death penalty circulating online, GMC wishes to make it known crystal

>> clear that as much as we remain part of the G6 and ready to continue

>> to work on common issues, we do not subscribe to the contents of the

>> said letter. It does not carry our signature or endorsement. We have

>> no part to do with it.

>> 

>> GMC had expressed its views publicly in the media and during

>> consultations with diplomatic representatives of the international

>> community on both the death penalty and the executions. We do not see

>> the logic of writing to the National Assembly or Yaya Jammeh again on

>> this issue. We view it as the victim engaging or seeking help from his

>> wicked tormentor. The letter does not bear our mark, and G6 does not

>> speak for GMC in this instance. GMC will not engage the regime on the

>> death penalty. Our contention is that the death penalty had legally

>> expired by effluxion of time fifteen years ago, and what happened on

>> the 27th of August 2012 was murder most foul. We shall continue to

>> work with Gambians at home and around the world, the international

>> community and the coalition of the willing in legitimately

>> accelerating the end of the brutal regime in Banjul, and subjecting it

>> to international justice.

>> 

>> Mai Ahmad Fatty

>> 

>> GMC Leader

>> --

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