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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Nope, Doc Saine has better things to do - teaching and earning an honest
living.  He earned his degrees, do you have one, just one?  You lied about a
joint Phd. and JD achievement, have you ever sat in an advanced class of any
subject?  No.  So, aside from embarking on the silly, what have you to say?
I see you doing your desperation round, from NADD, Darboe, Halifa, STGDP,
UDP, Wade, Senegal, Hamat, and now Laye Saine.  May your demons continue to
haunt you.  If FJC et al view you as a piece of shit, how low can you be?
Yaya asked you to go to Gambia and reconcile with him, on the ground, why
are you ignoring that offer?  The person you endeavor to praise is seeking
your head, so go figure.  I'm glad folks are ignoring the hell out of you.
"Chem, Hessau Hunn"


>From: Ebou Jallow <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>,   [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [>-<] Dr. Doom Spinning the Truth Again
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:52:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I would suggest a thought experiment for the uncritical ditto-heads:
>Blindfold yourself and spin a globe and pick any sub-saharan country at
>random and I shall convince you with vital statistics that demonstrate
>"massive poverty, mismanagement, and abuse".   Dr. Saine lived outside
>Gambia for the most part of his life, and I doubt whether he has ever
>casted a single vote in any elections in the Gambia.  His so called
>'research on Gambia politics'  is nothing but low grade political
>journalism in order to survive the "publish or perish" rule in US academia.
>  Prior to his new found passion for demonizing the "military boys" in
>academic journals, Dr. Saine has been occupied for years serenading Dawda
>Juwara in anticipation of the latter's patronage.
>
>Now what is the Doctor of Doom's metrics for the gravamen of
>'authoritarianism', 'national-security state', 'leadership paranoia' and
>'Gambia's crisis of unprecedented proportions"...?  Nothing.  Nothing but
>empty formalism and a passionate envy with an attitude that is constantly
>groping for reasons within the dark alleys of the malcontent.  Even the
>"authoritative research" he cited to support his preposterous claims has
>been disgracefully embellished- The Gambia is far from being a "failed
>state" at an ordinal rank of 60 within a number of 70 something of minimal
>probability of turning into a rogue state.  The Fund for Peace's report is
>NOT exhaustive but simply attempts to illustrate patterns which are
>inherent in almost all countries on this planet.  It really does not do
>justice to a relatively stable Gambia which is surrounded by a country rife
>with political violence and a simmering secession.
>
>Finally, the Gambia is not at a cross-road but on a journey of success
>towards a 2020 vision which is perhaps Dr. Doom's worst nightmare and his
>marginal group of ditto-heads.
>
>Areos,
>
>
>Ebou Jallow
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
>Pa Nderry M'bai <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>NEWS
>"Massive Poverty, Mismanagement, Abuse & Intransigence Put Gambia in
>Precarious Direction"-- Says Professor Abdoulaye Saine
>By Ebrima G. Sankareh
>
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>September 18, 2005
>Urges AU to Cancel 2006 Banjul Summit & EU, UK, Japan, US to Pressure APRC
>
>Gary, Indiana--Professor Abdoulaye Saine of the Miami University in Oxford
>Ohio and US co-ordinator of the National Alliance for Democracy &
>Development (NADD), has characterized The Gambia as a state "trapped in a
>vicious cycle of growing authoritarianism and harrowing poverty making it a
>potential candidate among 60 nations on the brink of collapse". The erudite
>Gambian born-US professor of Political Science & International Relations
>made this scathing remark as guest panelist at the annual conference of
>Gambians in the Mid-West.
>
>The 2006 Presidential Election
>
>In what could be described as a highly scholastic speech captioned: "The
>National Security Crisis in The Gambia & the Impending 2006 Presidential
>Elections", Dr. Saine paints a picture of doom and gloom and predicts
>further hardships unless NADD sweeps the polls come 2006. He insists that
>the forthcoming presidential election is a defining moment in the nation's
>history…one of the single most significant political events since
>independence in 1965 and the most important election since the 1994 coup
>that propelled Jammeh to power. In Saine's view, the election was pivotal
>for two reasons. On the one hand, it is a battle between a democratically
>poised NADD and a regime that has woefully failed Gambians and on the
>other,
>a race between deepening poverty and gross human rights abuses or a more
>peaceful and democratic future under NADD.
>
>Professor Saine in a passionate mood forcefully postulates thus; "eleven
>years after the 1994 coup…the state has for all intent and purposes failed
>and unable to deliver basic social services, justice and/ or security
>protections for citizens". He cited the authoritative research conducted by
>the Fund for Peace and Foreign Policy, which in its maiden report on
>potential failed states, ranked Ivory Coast number one trailed by a number
>of rogue nations among them, DRC, Guinea, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Liberia,
>Somalia, Chad and The Gambia at sixtieth position. Thus "a 'national-
>Security State', leadership paranoia and intransigence" argues Saine, "have
>intensified the current security-deficit of growing militarisation and gun
>culture in our homeland". He went on to argue that, the vestiges of
>draconian military decrees with their concomitant limitation to civilian
>participation in government has compromised what little democratic
>pretensions and human rights promises Jammeh and his government(s) made to
>Gambians in 1994.
>
>On The Security Apparatus
>
>Shifting through the intricate details of The Gambia's worrisome security
>situation, Dr. Saine takes on the "Civil Management and Control of the
>Security Apparatus" in what could only be described as compelling. "The
>lack
>of democratic accountability, transparency and civilian control", he noted,
>"are the key futures of the post-coup apparatus in The Gambia". Thus "the
>continuing and growing presence of retired military personnel as heads of
>the Interior Department, Police and the NIA" he reasons, "leaves decision
>making exclusively in the hands of the President". This combined with
>Jammeh's constant circulation and/ or terminations of key personnel in the
>security sector rob these establishments of policy coherence and
>continuity,
>he said.
>
>On the Economy & 'Operation No Compromise'
>
>Dr. Saine told his countrymen that Operation No Compromise was the
>willy-nilly result of sustained pressure from the IMF & World Bank. In a
>fitting fashion familiar to academics, professor Saine gives a riveting
>testimony thus; "at its best, 'Operation No Compromise' is a lack-luster
>effort to salvage an already decaying economy and a tainted image of the
>powers that be". "At worse" he went on, "it is a cruel hoax that, in the
>end, does not deliver but scapegoats the most vulnerable- the poor, retail
>traders and the regime's political enemies". According to Saine, "Poor
>economic performance coupled with a combination of related factors that
>include low productivity, mismanagement, over-borrowing and spending, a
>weak
>currency, rampant inflation, a rising external debt, and endemic corruption
>are largely to blame" for what he calls "Gambia's crisis of unprecedented
>proportions".
>
>The Gambia at A Crossroads
>
>It is Saine's contention that Gambians are at a critical turning point in
>their chequered history with two options. Either vote the APRC in office
>and
>continue to suffer both politically and economically or elect a NADD
>leadership that will go back to the drawing board to create a new political
>culture based on relative economic prosperity, security and political
>stability. A post- Jammeh era and a NADD government's first priority
>recommends Saine, "must be to reestablish fundamental freedoms, protect
>human rights and personal security" all of which nose-dived since the coup.
>
>The AU, the Commonwealth, Britain, Japan & the US
>
>In concluding his acerbic expose` tailored in semantic precision, the
>highbrow academic challenged the African Union leadership to rescind its
>planned summit in The Gambia in 2006. Otherwise, argues Abdoulaye Saine,
>holding a summit shortly before the 2006 election, would be sending the
>wrong signals and constitutes tacit approval of the regime's abysmal human
>rights record. Accordingly he went on, "intense international pressure from
>the Commonwealth, Britain, The EU, Japan and the United States must be
>forced on the African Union to cancel its planned summit. He urges these
>development partners in concert with Senegal and Nigeria to insist on free
>and fair elections in 2006; one devoid of violence and intimidation.
>Saine's
>final appeal, a juxtaposition with major setbacks like the continuous
>presence of extremely punitive media laws, the pervasiveness of the "Green
>Boys", the removal of four National Assembly officials and the mystery over
>slain editor Deyda Hydara, of The Point newspaper, will no doubt,
>constitute
>political hot potatoes come 2006.
>
>
>
>
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