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Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Lamin,
I have not had time to go through my posts and thus missed the post in 
which you wrote trying to poke me out into the open. I know you were 
not serious with your assumption regarding the average Gambian thing in 
the context you put it and as such, i just laughed it off. Since Jabou, 
my  PDOIS sister, didn't come out with guns blazing in my defence, you 
know it was not serious. Kinda seriously though, I recognized the 
poking style and it was definitely not yours. As a lawyer, you know 
about copyright stuff. Be careful before the owner of that style gets 
ideas about getting some Pounds from you assuming he registered the 
style with the relevant authorities.

Per your enquiry about my whereabouts, "suma loho dafa hawa jaapa" but 
I do sometimes browse through the mountain of mail, and posts from my 
heroes such as yourself I do read. That is how I saw this current 
topic. It was well written and exciting as attested to by others before 
me. I however wondered whether you were talking about the same D.K. 
Jawara as the one I know. Jawara and words such as tyranny, feared, 
executive vandalism together in any sentence? I think I have to post 
some videos to reacquaint you with Jawara. But then 15 years is a long 
time to reflect. Would you still describe him as colourfully today? 
Thanks.
Buharry.

BTW, are those unlettered bulk without rational basis for their support 
for Jawara's government the same as the average Gambian of today 
walking around in Sareh Lamin?

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LJD:

 "...fraudulent ?democratic? tyranny Fifteen year"" 

"Ordinary Gambians, especially the unlettered bulk whose support for 
Jawara?s government had no rational basis..." 

"He finally arrived at the ultimate destiny of his nepotic, corrupt, 
and incompetent administration: the trash-hip of history. Dawda Jawara?
s absolute control over the reins of power made him more feared than 
respected..."

We are not nostalgic for an era and a government that visited executive 
vandalism on the Gambian people



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From: [log in to unmask]
Date: 2009-07-26 16:20 
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Subj: RE: [&gt;-&lt;] A PERSPECTIVE FROM 1994; THE REVOLUTION THAT LEFT 
THE TRACKS

YJ
 
I love you too, and like my hero Joe Sambou, you are one Gambian I am 
pleased to have encountered on cyberspace. Your sincerity is a winner 
with me, your ecumenism notwithstanding. What value do you think a 
Juwara, or Gomez, adds to the opposition?
 
I know my new-found friend is scratching his head, and saying 'this 
idiot LJD' at my 'hero'
reference. He is wrong on Joe, and also wrong that I missed my "mono". 
I wonder how he came to know my obsession with 'mono', but thanks to 
his pet discipline of capitalism, I am able to buy finely processed 
'mono' at the Upton Park market in London. Far better than the sand-
invaded 'mono kulos' my mother occasionally sends from Gunjur.
 
If I didn't know better, I would have thought Junkung was my mother, 
but what he says is more gratifying coming from a stranger. I thank him 
for his confidence and I intend, God willing,to continue doing my part 
in addressing the unbelievably deteriorating state of our public life.
 
About UGAMA, you blew the chance of a face to face discussion when you 
aborted your transit via London recently. Please be assured my concern 
lies more in the potential for duplication and redundancy, i.e., the 
real issue of how you interface with STGDP, and UDP New York, than 
anything else. I probably did not communicate that effectively at the 
time!
 
As Karim, and Suntou were of no help in your "JAMBUR 4, NO CASE TO 
ANSWER" query, I was the one holding the placard. Gainako is likely to 
receive a written argument on their behalf by tomorrow, God willing. 
 
 
 
 
LJDarbo  
 
  

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Subject: RE: [>-<] A PERSPECTIVE FROM 1994; THE REVOLUTION THAT LEFT 
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To: "aa1gambiapost mailing" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 3:19 AM




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Now the UGAMA issue comes to mind....how come he didn't see its wisdom 
then? 

 
Jokes aside, well said Junkungba! I honestly share your thoughts. One 
got to have a practical approach to things. I also agree with you that 
the piece deserve wider circulation. In as much as a humble LJD 
wouldn't like us to comment this way, but we can help pass the message 
around. 
 
Thanks bro LJD...and this pen of yours must frequent its ink. 
 
yj

 

There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. 
Fear and Worship only Allah alone!


  


Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:33:36 -0700
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Subject: Re: [>-<] A PERSPECTIVE FROM 1994; THE REVOLUTION THAT LEFT 
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Lawyer Lamin J.
 
My respect and admiration for your integrity continues to rise 
everytime I read your posting. You are truly one gifted personality and 
I pray that God shower you with good health and long life so that 
Gambia and the world can continue to benefit from your scholarship. You 
are true scholar, my friend!
 
Your piece below written 15 solid years ago seems as if you just wrote 
it today. It is so prophetic. I hope the Daily Observer will extract it 
from here and publish it again tomorrow.
 
Keep writing, my brother! 
 
Junkung-ba

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [>-<] A PERSPECTIVE FROM 1994; THE REVOLUTION THAT LEFT THE 
TRACKS
To: "Gambia Post" <[log in to unmask]>, "The Gambia and 
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Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:35 AM








An acquantance from a European country kindly sent my article below and 
suggested it be reposted as published in the Daily Observer fifteen 
years ago,  if only as a reminder of our justified  dissapointment with 
the 1994 'revolution' of His Excellency, Sheikh Professor Alhaji Dr 
Yahya Jammeh. 
  
It remains my contention that July 22 represents a valid continuation 
of our national conversation, and that a forceful change of government 
is not per se unconstitutional. I do not think many are likely to mourn 
the passing of our current regime regardless how it came about. 
  
Please read on 
  
..................................................................................................................................... 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
DAILY OBSERVER, MONDAY, AUGUST 1, 1994                       
                                           
  
COMMENTARY 
   
We salute you! Albeit Cautiously 
  
  
Dear members of the provisional council: 
  
As an international media blitz focused world attention on the tragedy 
of a million Rwandan refugees in camps in Zaire over the weekend of 
July 22, Gambians at home and abroad were captivated by the unfolding 
of the most profound event in our national affairs: the declaration of 
a military takeover July 23. Even for those Gambians who foresaw 
military government in our public life, the crisis that started Friday 
and culminated in a takeover Saturday may have come as a surprise. 
  
As the sketchy details of conditions in The Gambia were taking shapes 
in the media, some of us took informal polls of Gambians in the United 
States, Canada, and the Western Europe, eliciting their views on the 
overthrow of the fraudulent ?democratic? tyranny of Dawda Jawara. I 
even made a few calls to The Gambia for the domestic perspective. To a 
person, the verdict was unanimous: we are happy and grateful, but??? 
Without doubt, you are the men of the hour, symbols of heroism to at 
least 90 percent of all Gambians. The question mark is over the future. 
And the future is what we must address because therein lies our 
collective destiny. 
  
In light of the track record of military regimes in other African 
countries, the near unanimous but qualified support is understandable. 
We would hate to see our parents, families, friends, and any Gambians 
for that matter flee the country in fear for their lives. Death would 
be preferable to countenancing such a spectacle. To solidify your 
position and keep the country together, you must avoid the adoption of 
the modus operandi of military governments in Africa. More 
fundamentally, you cannot afford to create martyrs. And vindictiveness 
must not be a part of the new order of national affairs. Memories last 
forever, and if bitter, they become a factor in the calculus of daily 
events, escalating the potential for tragedy on a constant basis. 
Ordinary Gambians, especially the unlettered bulk whose support for 
Jawara?s government had no rational basis, must be left alone. Only 
those public servants whose conduct clearly triggers the response of 
our laws
 may be fair targets for investigation. 
  
Dawda Jawara was a captain who lost his bearings, and the ship of state 
he disastrously piloted was destined to run aground. He finally arrived 
at the ultimate destiny of his nepotic, corrupt, and incompetent 
administration: the trash-hip of history. Dawda Jawara?s absolute 
control over the reins of power made him more feared than respected. 
You have the right to expect loyalty from your closet advisers, but 
they must not be fearful to the extent of endorsing all your policies 
regardless of their merits. You must be open-minded and receptive to 
ideas different from yours. 
  
We are not nostalgic for an era and a government that visited executive 
vandalism on the Gambian people. But we also refuse to be sentimental 
and complacent about the present. Your place in history will entirely 
depend on how you utilise the awe-inspiring instruments of government 
at your disposal. 
  
After a fraud lasting three decades, the populace may be prone to the 
syndrome of unrealistic expectations that are almost always integral to 
forceful government transitions in Africa. Your task is to communicate 
in effective but realistic terms, and to refuse to feed the frenzy of 
utopian sentimentalism during your honeymoon with the Gambian people. 
This, however, is not to suggest that you shy away from engaging the 
practical challenge of nation building. And nation building necessarily 
involves national reconciliation. In light of the manner you ascended 
power, certain constituencies may feel alienated. Your task is to 
reassure everyone, and not make anyone desperate through fear for 
personal safety. And even if private property is seized pending further 
investigation, I strongly recommend that a final determination of 
forfeiture be adjudicated before the tribunals of justice in The 
Gambia. In similar vein, and notwithstanding the suspension of the
 Constitution, the Cabinet members of the overthrown government must be 
accorded due process commensurate with the basic tenets of justice. 
  
The families of those former cabinet members, whether among the Jawara 
asylum party in Senegal, or other parts of the world, must not be used 
as bargaining chips. They are not even vicariously responsible for the 
untoward conduct of their spouses and/or parents. Although our first 
successful national encounter with a forceful displacement of 
government, the experience of other countries should provide cogent 
instruction in our attempt to fashion a strategy of national unity in 
the aftermath of such an earthshaking event.. The overthrow of the 
Jawara government was bloodless and we challenge you to keep your 
administration bloodless. This means no hostages, no summary trials, 
and absolutely no executions. 
  
Lieutenant Jammeh?s interview with the BBC and his comments regarding 
the plight of the ?little man on the street?, coupled with his 
statement concerning civilian involvement in the council, are 
encouraging. 
  
As you make appointments to the cabinet and other policy-level 
positions, you are well advised to draw from a talent pool untainted 
with the cancerous corruption and indiscipline of the Jawara 
government. This should effectively exclude all the past and recent 
high-level officials in that administration who involuntary left 
office. Certainly no cabinet member as of July 22 should be included in 
your government, although reports reaching us indicate otherwise. From 
a national security perspective, such an appointment may be unwise 
considering the person?s key role in the Jawara government for over a 
decade. 
  
A watcher of the Gambian political scene said that we should approach 
events in our homeland with ?cautions optimism?. For now, we salute 
you, albeit cautiously, for ending a three-decade fraud that 
emasculated the Gambia. Everyone I contacted simultaneously endorsed 
the overthrow of the Jawara government, and expressed uneasiness with a 
permanent military regime in The Gambia. I strongly recommend that you 
seriously consider and communicate to the Gambian people a timetable 
for a return to civilian rule in the country. 
  
Excuse my concern but my civic duties dictate that I express my 
thoughts on a condition of first impression in my country. The stakes 
are too high, and sink or swim, we are in it together as Gambians. For 
17 years, I have followed every major political event in Africa and the 
world. I have seen governments, civilian and military, engineer and 
nurture atrocities of mind-boggling dimensions on the people whose 
welfare they are supposed to protect. I have also seen the silent 
killers, the governmental equivalents of high blood pressure, arrest 
the hopes, and drown the dreams, of generations of their youthful 
citizens. Jawara belongs in the latter. Governmental crime has 
different formulations, but after the enervating trials of the Jawara 
fraud, Gambians may have no patience left to tolerate an assault on 
their material and spiritual heritage. 
  
May God bless The Gambia and Gambians in this hour of trial! 
  
Lamin J Darbo 
The University of       
Tennessee College of law        
 3700 Sutherland 
 Avenue, Knoxville,   
TN 379191, U.S.A.  
(Tel: 615558 7034) 
  
  


 




  





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