Haruna,
Word has it the scorpions are particularly active during spring time. I
am compelled to lift any restrictions (including limits on postings)
that would impinge on their movement - for life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness.
Malanding
[log in to unmask] wrote:
> Evian:
>
> Vantage point is another way of saying "point of view" or perspective.
>
> [While I'm here, let me answer a question you asked of me: I am asking
> Haruna, What is wrong with fact finding or gathering evidence to bulid
> up ones case as Halifa was doing when he was arrested?] Evian.
>
> Nothing is wrong with fact-finding missions. duplicitous and
> endless fact-finding however beggars belief and is good sport. I did
> not know Halifa was "fact-finding" to build up a case. Sorry. Who were
> the plaintiffs and who were the defendants? Which court was the case
> being heard in? You're too funny men. Investigative journalists go on
> fact-finding missions for their publications. You might get some
> traction Evian if you said Halifa was an investigative journalist for
> Foroyaa but then that would betray the profuse coverage Foroyaa's
> other "journalists" had given the matter. I must have missed where
> Halifa retained counsel to prosecute his case after the fact-finding.
> I want you to go on a fact-finding of "witch-hunting" and bring it to
> me to file suit a class-action suit on your victims' behalf. Evian,
> perhaps that was what Suntou's Oped was saying:
>
> That after the magnanimous self-sacrifice of Halifa, and having
> gathered the facts necessary, what next? And that other Gambians are
> encouraged to assist in making use of Halifa's facts.
>
> Oh I forgot, the facts gathered resided on a laptop that was seized
> and purged. New Kambians!!
> Haruna. Nzerekore mountain air is not good for your small lungs Evian.
> MQJGDT. Darbo. Kukeh can I have some of your posting issues??? Or I
> will go on a fact-finding to build a case against your consortium.
>
> Haruna.
>
> In a message dated 4/16/2009 3:11:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Ginny,
>
> You used "vantage point"; I told you my perception of what you
> meant by it. If that does not tally with what you meant, then
> explain what you meant.
> Don't you for a moment think that we are not vantaged because we
> have a leader like Yahya Jammeh. Ehh? If so you also had George W.
> Bush. Didn't he screw up the whole world into a human rights and
> economic recession before he left?
>
> Let me be brutally honest with you. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY VANTAGE
> POINT OVER ME IN MATTERS OF GAMBIAN AFFAIRS. YOU MAY HAVE THAT
> OVER SUNTOU OR HARUNA OR YOUR PET DOG.
>
> New Amerikaaaans! They would not cease to amaze!
>
> Bailo
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 16/4/09, Ginny Quick /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 7:55 PM
>
> I find it interesting that although I didn't agree with Halifa's
> motives being questioned, etc., all anyone could focus on was my
> "vantage point" and take that to mean that I somehow thought
> that my
> opinion was superior to Gambians because I used the word "vantage
> point". And oh yes, fixating on my use of the term "sliced
> bread".
> And I'd go back to Clarksville if I could, but that's about
> 800 miles
> from where I'm currently living now. I love it when people try to
> insult you and they end up showing just how little they know about
> you, and making themselves look utterly foolish in the process by
> using words like "hibbies", i.e., Ginny I'm pissed and I'm back.
> Please do not insult our intelligence again with such load of
> crap.
> Take that back to Clarksville will ya. I'm sure hibbies will
> jump on
> it in a jiffy. God!"
>
> And what is a hibbie? (running to find a dictionary)
>
> I find this to be a bit humorous, and you've once again proven
> my point, thanks.
>
> Just for the record, I'm not criticizing Halifa in this case,
> however,
> I'm criticizing how others react to criticism of him. Let me also
> state that I do not question his motives. I don't think he
> was acting
> in his own self-interest when he went on the fact-finding
> mission and
> was later arrested and charged. And I disagree with anyone
> who wants
> to insinuate that he was somehow trying to better himself
> politically
> by doing so, and that if he'd known he was going to get
> arrested, he'd
> have not gone on said fact-finding mission.
>
> I guess that's a load of crap?
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/16/09, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> > Say Amen, Suntou.
> >
> > Bailo
> >
> > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, Muhammed Drammeh
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > From: Muhammed Drammeh <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 4:57 PM
> >
> > Hi Suntu
> >
> > I think you are suffering from inferiority complex. May
> Allah help you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin
> Drammeh Bin Muhammad
> > Kanday Drammeh bin Muhammad Kissima Drammeh bin Foday Drammeh
> >
> > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 4:49 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Buharry, Thanks for the enquiry. As you rightly said, i did
> mention that He
> > stood up to bully. But you have to remember, that statement
> was based on the
> > initial news stories conveying the manners of his arrest.
> > After evaluating all his comments pre and post his release,
> I have no doubt
> > that, there is a likelihood of political point scoring.
> > Again. if you read my comments properly, you would identify
> my giving credit
> > to the man for some issues and hoping that, the noise that
> his arrest
> > generated wasn't going to die down with the soundbites.
> > I have seen few postings in praise of the bravery and
> gallantry of Halifa, i
> > did not dispute all of that. But the fact that he utilise
> the media more
> > than the other leaders doesn't make him the only opposition
> leader to have
> > spoken on the subject or even did personal enquiry of the
> people affected.
> > Halifa as a politician knows how to use the media to his
> advantage, thus
> > feeding the frenzy and hysteria that always surrounds him
> from the few key
> > drum beat party followers that feed on his every word. This
> is not bad in
> > itself, but on serious matters like this, political point
> scoring are not
> > what is appropriate.
> > I did not write the piece Buharry to make any one wary of
> Halifa, but
> > leaving politicians and their comments go unchecked is
> dangerous. Yes, i
> > know also, some will use every corner to try twist the
> message in my piece
> > in an attempt to discredit the analysis, but again, that is
> expected in
> > political dialogue. I am questioning Halifa the politician
> Buharry, i hope
> > you see it from that angle, just like the politicians in
> Sweden and England
> > are question for their motives. I know the usual suspects
> will continue to
> > come out until they feel, they have exonerate the man. But
> the fact remains,
> > Halifa will always be scrutinise just like other politicians.
> > Thanks
> > suntou
> >
> > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, Momodou Buharry Gassama
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:18 AM
> >
> > Hi Suntou!
> > I remember you praising Halifa for "standing up to the
> bully" after
> > concurring with Modou Mboge in an earlier post that "the
> community
> > leaders, the women leaders, political leaders etc are all
> mute but a
> > few. The silence is killing." You even went further stating:
> "Modou,
> > you asked a legitimate question, but what about the hundreds of
> > Gambians reading you here in the Gambia L forum? If the
> elders back
> > home are mute, one can argue that, may be they are afraid to
> offend the
> > system IE Yahya. But what about the capable brothers and
> sisters in the
> > G-L and G-Post? If they can be quiet in matters likes this,
> what do you
> > think will happen when they go to the Gambia?" That is why I
> have
> > trouble reconciling those positions with your latest position on
> > Halifa's stance insinuating that he had ulterior motives in
> "standing
> > up to the bully" after all but a few of the leaders and
> Diasporans kept
> > quiet. Do you see the contradictions? First, all but few of
> the leaders
> > and others who should speak out against what was going on
> kept quiet
> > and thus failed in their responsibilities. Then Halifa spoke
> and took a
> > move that landed him at Mile Two and you praised him for
> "standing up
> > to the bully". Now you claim that he had ulterior motives for
> > "standing
> > up to the bully". Can you please help me understand how you
> came to
> > your conclusion? What do you base your insinuations on? I
> want to keep
> > an open mind and maybe even re-evaluate my position on
> Halifa should
> > you be able to throw some light on your claim that he had
> ulterior
> > motives for doing what he did. Thanks.
> > Buharry.
> > P.S.
> > Please find the posts I quoted from below.
> > D.S.
> > ------------------
> > From: SUNTOU TOURAY [[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>]
> > Date: 2009-03-11 23:18
> > To: <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Re: Halifa charged
> > DESPERADO. The end is here. Bravo Halifa for standing up to
> the bully.
> > Suntou
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > From: SUNTOU TOURAY [[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>]
> > Date: 2009-03-10 16:42
> > To: <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Re: Halifa Sallah Arrested By Sam Sarr on 09-03-09
> >
> > Modou, an intersting statement: "Where are the elders of the
> country,
> > the religious leaders, the community leaders, the women leaders,
> > political leaders etc are all mute but a few. The silence is
> killing."
> > M Mboge.
> >
> > Modou, you asked a legitimate question, but what about the
> hundreds of
> > Gambians reading you here in the Gambia L forum? If the
> elders back
> > home are mute, one can argue that, may be they are afraid to
> offend the
> > system IE Yahya. But what about the capable brothers and
> sisters in the
> > G-L and G-Post? If they can be quiet in matters likes this,
> what do you
> > think will happen when they go to the Gambia? they will
> simply be quiet
> > also. reverse psychology.
> > Some may hide behind 'I don't time and what have you'. It is
> bogus,
> > we
> > all make time for things that matters to us. and in this
> freedom news
> > paper and Gambia echo era, many of us read the news. how do
> we do that?
> > on the net. Modou you are right, the silence is killing. and
> for sure,
> > Yahya marvel at the fact only a few write about his crimes.
> this is a
> > moral boost for him.
> > In U.K alone, i heard that more than 15 to 20 ex-military
> officers
> > claimed asylum here. among this folks are former lieutenants and
> > captains. They knew what is wrong with our army and how yaya
> use the
> > army to get his way around. Apart from Alhagi kanteh and
> Binneh Minteh,
> > which one do hear say anything? Lets us pray, But God/Allah
> require us
> > to speak against injustice and suppression. We are the
> elders tomorrow,
> > the elders now are quiet and many among us are quiet today
> even those
> > whose immediate families have been harmed. Is this how the
> western
> > society works? be silent over bad happenings, they speak
> out, even
> > against children rights, women's rights, rapes, theft,
> murders, let
> > alone politics. many speak but have no interest in holding
> political
> > positions. let decency dictate.
> > suntou
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2009-04-15 23:41
> > To: <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subj: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> >
> > Jabou, not to bore anyone, i see Halifa as a politician, if
> you see him
> > as something else, that is up to you. I cannot control your
> thought
> > processes neither can't you control mine.
> > So please, cut the deceit talk. this is political
> discussion, if anyone
> > let it boil his/her blood, then you need to start seriously
> thinking
> > about future topics on Halifa as a politician.
> > This is no deceit folks, this is an opinion. it doesn't
> matter if
> > anyone insult, that is expected in political exchanges.
> > Deceit, that is a game of politicians especially those that
> have been
> > in it for twenty year plus. As you said, "Gambians are
> waking up" we
> > all hope so. You said some good things in our last
> exchanges, and some
> > erroneous postings, i analyse them on face value. If i am
> the usual
> > suspect in the Halifa questioning, then you guys are the usual
> > defenders of the man. I see the usual names coming forward,
> what does
> > that tell us?
> > What is Halifa's future plans IE in politics? he did
> mentioned that, if
> > he loose his Serrekunda seat, he was going to venture in
> Academia, i
> > feel that, he can do both. thus allowing us to analyse his
> political
> > career from Magi Eleg to Voice of the future and presently
> foroyaa,
> > PDOIS and the defunct NADD. It is good opportunity to know
> the work of
> > politicians. Obama too is coming under scrutiny, that is the
> spirit.
> > Haruna has maintain his stance all along, that is defend
> what should be
> > defended and question what need questioning. If that means,
> ENVY AND
> > JEALOUSY, Jealousy of what?
> > suntou
> >
> > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 4:27 PM
> >
> >
> > Haruna,
> >
> > I know you and those of like mind are proving yourselves to
> be masters
> > in the art to twisting good intentions into bad ones, or at
> least you
> > are giving it all you can, but let me re-iterate that what i
> found
> > amazing is your warped view regarding Halifa's intentiones
> and nothing
> > else.You know you cannot and will never be allowed to put
> words into
> > my mouth, especially disingenous ones.
> > Away with malicious deceit, especially when it is intended
> for those
> > who do not deserve it and you know I am all for justice and
> fairness.
> > I have called Suntou out before on his mission of deciet and
> malice
> > against Halifa that he thinks he can disguise as civil
> discourse and he
> > flatly denied it but here we go again.
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 8:30 am
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> >
> >
> >
> > Evian,
> >
> > You're a beautiful man. Thank you also for copying what
> Jabou had
> > shared about my notes. I will take the opportunity to
> address that for
> > Laye and Jabou here.
> >
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 7:50 PM
> > Jabou shared:
> > [Haruna wrote:"It was when the onerous exercise threatened PDOIS
> > electoral fortunes that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the
> numerous
> > rep orts and eye-witness accounts of it not-withstanding."
> Wow!. Truly
> > amazing.]
> > Jabou Joh.
> >
> > Jabou, I'm glad you appreciate the above fact as "Truly
> amazing".
> > The
> > response was as onerous as the original crime. This world is
> full of
> > mirages. In Halifa's case there is a confluence of mirages:
> One of
> > conscience and the other of interest-peddling. The
> conscience part
> > however triumphs over the interest-peddling part.
> >
> > [In a message dated 4/15/2009 8:15:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> > [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jabou, Please excuse my grand dad for when the Tiger is in
> the Woods,]
> >
> > Evian I want you to know Tiger had already gone home when
> Suntou shared
> > his Oped and the vultures began to descend on him. For no
> friggin
> > reason. Trying to shut the man up.
> >
> > [he loses some of his reasoning faculties.] Evian.
> > Do you really think yours truly skips a beat Evian? You
> jettison your
> > own Grand-dad for PDOISard bantanbilly? Mbeemi, Achu! Atay
> watiladeh?
> > Dang-Kutoo le bentehma. bahna!
> >
> > [Moreover, grand dad just cannot bring himself to give any
> due credit
> > to Halifa.] Evian.
> > Do y ou ever read or understand my notes on Halifa?? They
> are always
> > chock-full of praise for Halifa's selfless efforts and
> circumspect and
> > sobriety for the clueless PDOISdrones. They want to sweep us
> all up in
> > their cluelessness. I am not a witch.
> >
> > [Why? Am yet to fully comprehend.] Evian.
> > I gathered as much. You, like most other PDOISards will never be
> > satisfied until I begin to worship Halifa for nought. It's
> in your
> > bloods. Its not your fault that's why I never get upset with a
> > PDOISard. E-bukay Taw. Alla La kaybaaroo Lom wolbayti.
> Ekoloobaliyaata,
> > Ebuka-keybaa bunyaa! Ila Makkamol fanang mang Timma. Na
> Fitiyaye deng
> > fitiyaye so. Na Lebintiman dem. Ndasimma Nke Nta Hayinni!!!
> >
> > [Bailo]
> > How are you getting along in your new home? I hope great.
> Look forward
> > to hearing you more often. You know your former employer is
> > international should you not decide to change careers.
> Personally I
> > think you are exceptionally well suited for that line of
> work. It
> > screams out from your notes here and we are all proud of you.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
> > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 7:50 PM
> >
> >
> > Haruna wrote:
> >
> > "It was when the onerous exercise threatened PDOIS electoral
> fortunes
> > that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the numerous reports
> and eye-
> > witness accounts of it not-withstanding."
> >
> > Wow!. Truely amazing.
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 9:21 am
> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next?
> >
> >
> >
> > Laye, Good to hear you again.
> >
> > Allow me to chime in for a minute.
> >
> > I totally understand your sentiments vis-a-vis Halifa Sallah
> and I
> > share some of those sentiments. I also understand Suntou's
> oped and I
> > share some of his views. I am of equal opportunity
> grace. What I see is
> > that we risk taking this conversation to the sentimental and
> ecumenical
> > realm as is usually the case when we speak about Halifa, a
> man who
> > aspires to lead Gambia through the political party PDOIS. I
> advise that
> > we bear on sobriety.
> >
> > I take Suntou's oped as a fact-finding query given the fact that
> > Gambians have a cynical view of politic king. Perhaps Suntou
> can yield
> > greater perspective on politics in this query. He is not to be
> > dismissed for sentimental reasons however. It is natural for
> a PDOISard
> > to be up in arms when=2 0their party leader is questioned
> but consider
> > that with the requisite temerity and discernments, the
> questioning,
> > even if disdainful, can strengthen the leader as well as
> improve our
> > lot as a people.
> >
> > I commend Halifa for embarking on a fact-finding mission
> into the witch-
> > hunting saga as a human being. Witch-hunting is the
> veritable insult to
> > our collective consciences and acumen, especially one
> sanctioned by
> > Yahya, whose faculties are not readily discernible. You have
> posited,
> > and appropriately, that the onus of fact-finding in such
> egregious
> > matter is not the reserve of Halifa alone; to wit: "Halifa
> Sallah is
> > not and should not be the only person of dignified
> conscience amongst
> > the leaders or those who claim to be opposition leaders in
> Gambia. What
> > he has done and gone through demonstrates to all and sundry
> that you, I
> > and every human Gambian must not stand aside and look while
> your fellow
> > Gambian and human is being humiliated in the most degrading
> manner."
> > Laye, you will therefore agree with Suntou that all Gambians
> have been
> > equally incensed by the saga, but that Halifa being the
> leader of PDOIS
> > had wished to capitalize on common disdain to yield PDOIS
> greater
> > fortune. I am reminded that there are others in PDOIS like
> Sam, Sidia,
> > Amadou, Samba, Suleyman, who could have embarked on the same
> fact-
> > finding, but were they to have been arrested, they do not
> stand an
> > equal chance of relief as Halifa had. To whom much is given,
> much more
> > is expected. ;You will see that Halifa himself has shared
> in his
> > defense of the erroneous charges levelled against him by an
> uncouth and
> > clueless prosecutor, that he derived his rights from our common
> > constitution and the fact that he is a leader of a political
> party. Any
> > journalist can embark on the fact-finding mission and by dint
> > of Halifa's association with the PDOIS party organ Foroyaa,
> he has
> > added umph! These are some of the reasons you feel
> comfortable in
> > comparing
> > Halifa to Gambia's other politicians who in your own words and
> > disdainfully "claim to be opposition leaders in Gambia." You
> know
> > what
> > happens to journalists who embark on fact-finding missions
> including
> > Foroyaa journalists. Politics therefore was a major factor
> in both
> > enabling Halifa to embark on a fact-finding mission. Were he
> not leader
> > of PDOIS, proprietor of Foroyaa, a respectable contributor
> to the pan-
> > African parliament, he may have or may not have entertained
> the risks
> > associated with fact-finding in Gambia.
> >
> > The broader picture therefore is that even though many
> Gambians are
> > incensed with the witch-hunting grafignette, our political
> leaders,
> > opposition or incumbent, are the ones most empowered to
> prosecute our
> > collective disdains and anxieties. This means that politics
> is our
> > legislative life. Whether Halifa engaged with ulterior=2
> 0political
> > motives or not, is therefore immaterial to me. However, ordinary
> > citizens are free to query his motives as much as they are
> free to
> > express repulsion at Yahya's motives and pantomime. It is in the
> > explanation and general disposition of PDOIS and Halifa that
> will yield
> > attenuated fortunes.
> >
> > It is unwise to compare Halifa to our other opposition political
> > leaders from both a human standpoint and from a colegial
> view. That I
> > think will be the height of conceit and an insult to our
> collective
> > intelligence. And it unfortunately furthers the strictly
> political
> > motive of Halifa and PDOIS. You will realize that we did not
> get to the
> > point of Yahya embarking on repulsive witch-hunting
> exercises in a
> > vacuum. Life is ever so dynamic. Yahya was enabled somehow and I
> > suppose that has escaped us. That is the schematics of
> politics that
> > erodes most future and "pure" goodwill.
> >
> > What Suntou is trying to figure out, is whether there is
> salvage value
> > in the preliminary steps taken by Halifa and whether Halifa
> can be
> > instrumental in yielding that salvage value for commoner
> good. I submit
> > that the best way to achieve that is by all of us
> enabling our other
> > political leaders in APRC, UDP/NRP (NDP), PPP, GPP, and GDP to
> > coordinate the prosecution of our legislative life as
> Gambians. The
> > days of bunker politics are waning and there are signs
> everywhere for
> > the astute. We did not see any amalgam of forces by our
> political
> > leaders when20Taf-Taf Yahya bereft of Gardens stole Brufut
> Lands and
> > dispossessed Brufutians, nor did we see the same when
> Halfdiens were
> > unscrupulously dispossessed of their homes in the name of port
> > expansion.=2 0Witch-hunting and circumstance is tantalizing
> and a gross
> > violation of human rights. But so are the myriad precursor
> trespasses
> > that enabled it. You will realize that Halifa is not easily
> amenable to
> > coordination of effort with other opposition parties.
> Glaring. The
> > witch-hunting fact-finding could yield more tangible results
> if it were
> > actively coordinated. But PDOIS is on a mission that does
> not seem to
> > be common relief. It was when the onerous exercise
> threatened PDOIS
> > electoral fortunes that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the
> numerous
> > reports and eye-witness accounts of it not-withstanding.
> Halifa's
> > initial statements on the saga betrays ignorance to warrant
> a fact-
> > finding.
> >
> > That is all for now. - Haruna. Allez-y!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/14/2009 3:43:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes:
> > Suntu:
> >
> > Halifa Sallah is not and should not be the only person of
> dignified
> > conscience amongst the leaders or those who claim to be
> opposition
> > leaders in Gambia. What20he has done and gone through
> demonstrates to
> > all and sundry that you, I and every human Gambian must not
> stand
> > aside and look while your fellow Gambian and human is being
> humiliated
> > in the most degrading manner.=2 0We should be thankful that
> we know in
> > Halifa, ONE Gambian that will stand up to the brutalities of the
> > regime and would rather die or languish in jail than to sit
> and see
> > his fellow beings dehumanized in broad day light. To
> insinuate that
> > Halifa was looking for personal or political gain in the
> exercise of
> > liberating his conscience and dignifying the value of human
> life,
> > smirks of debilitating ignorance and an insult to his and our
> > conscience...God forbid!
> >
> > -Laye
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:08 AM, <[log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >> An interesting oped to ponder Suntou. Discerner-in-Chief!!!
> I think
> > Yahya
> >> shot himself in the foot. And I'm worried about our two bad
> left-
> > eyes. New
> >> Kambians!!!! Haruna. You pamplemousse!!!
> >>
> >> In a message dated 4/13/2009 6:29:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> >> [log in to unmask]
> <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes:
> >>
> >> Monday, 13 April 2009
> >>
> >> Halifa Factor In Gambia's Witch Hunt debacle
> >>
> >> By Suntou Touray
> >> With the dust almost settled even though facts about the
> Gambiaââ?¬â
> > ?¢s witch
> >> hunting episode may all not be known, there=2 0is occasion
> to reflect
> > over the
> >> whole encounter. Men dressed in red raided settlements in
> search of
> > witches.
> >> They captured people of decent background and made them consume
> > lethal
> >> concoctions in the name of ridding them off witch craft
> spirits. Some
> > of the
> >> captives died. Large numbers still remain in biting pains,
> mostly
> > deep in
> >> their stomach.
> >> Former Serrekunda East parliamentary member and sociologist
> Halifa
> > Sallah
> >> was last month arrested and detained at mile 2 prisons for
> over a
> > week. This
> >> was due to his decision to visit two villages over a witch
> hunting
> >> incidence. Halifa after his release commented that he went
> on a fact
> > finding
> >> mission to the two villages. More accurately put he tried
> to proof
> > whether
> >> the witch hunting story was actually true or false.
> >> Halifa was arrested afterward because the government felt
> that, he as
> > an
> >> ordinary citizen of the Gambia who seeking to impersonate
> the work of
> > the
> >> police or state security agents.
> >> No doubt Halifa by all regards played brave by what he did.
> Why he
> > did so
> >> remains a question on wet lips.
> >> Some people considered it a genuine move by Halifa to prove
> what
> > others
> >> thought a mere rumour. To others Halifa was in a publicity
> campaign
> > for
> >> himself and certainly scored political points whether he
> preferred
> > using
> >> that or not.
> >> From what came out of the encounter Halifa made us all to
> know th at
> > the
> >> witch hunting story is real and the actions are sanctioned
> by Gambia
> >> government.
> >> What next after knowing the true story still a valid
> question for
> > curious
> >> onlookers. Will there be any lawsuit against the government
> for the
> > unlawful
> >> conduct o f humiliating and harassing innocent Gambians?
> >> The witch hunting episode ended up projecting Halifa�s
> > political profile at
> >> higher levels. He was a victim of arbitrary arrest but that
> by itself
> >> arrested the tormenting witch hunt at least until matters
> settled
> > over
> >> Halifa�s own arrest and brief detention. The whole saga
> > eventually shifted
> >> from the witch hunting focusing on Halifa. That earned him
> a high
> > profile
> >> victim of the unjust government crime of witch hunting.
> >> Halifa made noise about the remote control Gambian
> constitution loud
> > enough.
> >> He defended his action by quoting various sections of the
> Gambian
> >> constitution, a document he knows about inside out. Halifa
> knows too
> > well
> >> also that document is serving one man and one man only,
> Yahya Jammeh
> > the
> >> current Gambian head of state. Since many Gambians know for
> a fact
> > that
> >> document is not protecting their human rights for a number
> reasons
> > one
> >> wonders if there was any need for Halifa to labour over
> > constitutionality
> >> this fragrant government encounter with innocent citizens.
> >> The gains of Halifa�s intervention can double20if he
> was to
> > help the victims
> >> pursue claims of damage resulting from such inhuman
> treatment. The
> > victims
> >> deserve good compensation.
> >> The good efforts of Halifa placed him beyond the single
> position of
> > flag
> >> bearer PDOIS /NADD to the lofty point of standing tall for
> Gambian
> > people in
> >>20times of need. This is enough wakeup call for Gambians
> over length
> > and
> >> breadth of the country to resist the advances of witch hunters.
> > Halifa can
> >> draft a comprehensive law suit against the government as
> seen truly
> > standing
> >> up for the people. The point of departure would be the
> constitution,
> > a book
> >> fully in Halifa�s firm grips. Impeachment
> proceedings against
> >
> > the president
> >> can be initiated, thus demonstrating severity human rights
> > violations.
> >> The law suits may not bear quicker results but to make the
> government
> > pay
> >> victims. Through that citizens will go long way in exposing the
> > severity of
> >> state organized crimes.
> >> We await Halifa�s future actions concerning the
> witch hunting
> >
> > debacle.
> >> Halifa�s political profile is undoubtedly boosted. Other
> > gains
> > exceed
> >> individual political scores. Yahya should not have arrested
> Halifa in
> > the
> >> first place. The only reason one would think he ordered his
> arrest
> > was to
> >> cause wider divide among the ranks of the opposition.
> >> Halifa�s followers have a talking point- our only
> saviour
> > they
> > would say.20He
> >> emerged hero of the hour. His arrest has potential to change
> > something.
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