Haruna, you answered your new found nephew well. all i can add is that, the case at hand is more to do with believe and faith than evidence. religion is not all about logic. that is why Caliph Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) said "if every thing in religion is logic, then we would wipe the bottom of our socks rather than the top during wodu (ablution)." so to ask certain question concerning the jinns and linking that to the believe in doomas and buwas is a mistaken understanding.
yes, doomas and buwas are a common believe in Africa and even the west. witch hunting sagas. the quran never mention any thing about doomas or buwas, what is evident is that humans have different capabilities, some very strange indeed.
coming to why God create Jinns, that is a question young suntou cannot answer. i do not question the rational behind God's creation. he is the "creator of all the worlds".(quran). some creation of his we are not aware of.
but what brother sey's question entail is the fact, the understanding of religion is quite an issue with so many Muslims. i suggested that brother Sey read Suratul Jinn, that would have explain some his questions, but only he has the answer as to whether he read it or not.
secondly, i have done my best to avoid mention any body's name in the piece. to name people who cannot defend themselves in the forum is a great sin, it is backbiting. i have seen first hand the mixing of quranic writings and other alien inscription practise by marabous. but i cannot give out names, i am not out to declare war on myself. these people are dangerous, they knowingly mix the quran with satanic knowledge, i also stated that for most, it's greed that push them to do what they do. this was why the late Sheik Omar Bun jeng stated, "this marabous should stop telling people, i dreamt that this and this will happen". he went on to say, "they should take up work and benefit through that". one famous sheriff, name withheld use to stay in our home whenever he came to serrekunda, he is still so famous, one cannot possibly consult him alone, you must explain yourself to him among people or else, you cannot have that chance. only the very rich can take him to their home,
entertain him and then consult him. but doing that is not easy money. i have seen many very rich folks coming to consult him. another famous marabou who live next to our home is a sarahuleh man, he too use to be visited by very powerful men. the cars they come with were top of the range, i know of some them by face. why do they consult this them? addiction and lack of trust i would say. i may be wrong but the marabous hardly talk about Islam and doing good. the client may come to inflict harm on his/her rival. we all know this things are happening at a great cost to our society.
an analogy is the common practise of corruption and bribery in our society. Do any one here believe that the brothers and sister per-taking in corrupt practises don't know what they are doing? they know very well, it wrong and will always bring our society backward. again, the illegal killing of fellow country men and women. those undertaking the brutal task know for sure what they are doing is wrong, yet they do it. this is human nature, self-interest versus Good action.
also i came to know of many of high class directors, managers and top official indulging in the consumption of liquor in hotels and private secluded bars all over the greater Banjul. some of this brothers, are islamically well respected by people, but privately, they go to hotels and instruct the waiters to box (mixing alcohol with coke or some other soft drink) just that others wouldn't know they are drinking wine or brandy. this things happen. why? so long as one can get away with corrupt actions, people do it.
just look at war zones, why do business men fear looting from the general public? when there is no law and order, every one becomes a common criminal, that is why we need proper law and order and good governance if not anarchy and lawlessness follows. also Rape is very common is war situations, why? no police to monitor any one, fan kun fan kun is the order of the day.
Similarly, our brothers with the kaftan can do things to get rich. remember, brother sey, wealth is the biggest status symbol, so however pious you are, if you are poor, tough. not many sherif or marabouts can stomach poverty. they create the need for people to rely on them. If you as a hustler in Europe or America, or a civil servant secular educated fellow, an environment is there to rely on marabous for all spiritual matters. this is wrong. but they make money and you feel some sort of comfort of handing them some Euros or Dollars or even dalasis. they are happy and you are happy.
they know what they are doing is unislamic, the quran accuses some other religious people of the past of selling the ayahs or words of God for paltry prices. this is what this marabouts do. so teaching some youths the quran is a sure way of attracting people to themselves. but i reiterated that not all marabout mix the art of Jinn worship with the worship of God. some charge people upfront, some take an advance, some will not charge at all. they are into several categories. some can charge over D40000 dalasis.
to avoid them is the most noble thing for strong Muslim. rely on Allah invoke him directly. be charitable to the poor and needy and be genuine as a Muslim. when you err, ask for forgiveness and don't go repeating the same sin over and over again.
May God strenhten our faiths to avoid this people. Amen.
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Nephew Dibassey,
I told you you were funny. Now you heard a certain female Jinn rides around
Waa-sulung kunda (I used to live in Mamakoto), and you were curious enough to
want to find out if this myth were true. Think about it for a moment; The
lady is purported to require her acquaintances to make love to her at the risk
of disappearance. If you were to find out she really existed, I wonder if you
ever thought about whether you would deny her carnal knowledge? You are so
funny, its serious. Are you sure you didn't go looking for Jinn love???????
From the far side, as your favourite uncle is wont to imagine, and if you
refused, she would have made you disappear. If I were you, I would give the
excuse that when approached for Jinn-love, I would refuse. Because I would be
more interested in studying the world that lay beyond - in the disappearance
realm.
Anyway, I do want to give you some advice vis-a-vis Suntou. I see you're
expanding the current topic to Marabouts. I advise against that with Suntou.
He's likely to tie this listserv up for the rest of the year and we have very
pressing issues to work on here. Please let him know you made a mistake about
the Marabouts/sirrifolu and that you do not desire a response. Please.
You're so friggin funny. Borderline silly!!! Haruna. Your 'Silly' uncle!!!
In a message dated 8/17/2008 11:59:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Brothers Suntou, Musa and huum!! my new found uncle Ha!thank you all for
your jinn postings it help but at the same opened the subject for more
questions and I have some.
First of all a bit about my quest to research jinns and (DOMAS or BOWAR)
since my early childhood I been having my deep daout concerning this phenomenon,
or the unseen UFO愀 I was born grew up in Bakau Wasulung kunda. Bakau GL
members from Bakau would agrre with me this town has many so called scared
ponds big babob trees beaches of worship places of good jinn and bad treble
jinns.name it the town have it.
Our compound happen to near one of most trebble jinns yes jinns not jinn
plenty of them one eyed it愀 strongly rumored that if meet this you get mad
that was why when I growing up they were almost five mad people from Wasulung
kunda. a buityful female jinn usually ride a completely white horse if happen
to meet this one you are force to make love to her after after she make
disappear for many years or you get sick bed ridden for the rest of your
life.(HUUM ya ya my uncle I can see you laughing you brain out at this one right now I
am my self chuckling like hell right now.) ninka jinn, jinn riding bicycle
OK name it . After the mark grip prayers nobody dare venture out to this this
area.
Now me not believing in at that time not believing in what I can愒 see or
proof I set out to find out if really this so jinns just imaginary or people
are just afraid of the unknown. Unknown to parents started going to this place
ah ha the place is called BANOKOTO wih my father愀 touch light just aghreb
prayers to see if i can find this jinn woman (uncle), the only thing I saw was
one of our elder making love to woman very embarrassing. When I mum find out
why I always come late to dinner she was so worried am literly lockup in her
room around Maghreb. Uncle I gave your mbaring muso few worry some time
growing up and more is coming.
1 why would Allah the almighty create jinns to mislead humans Muslim to do
evils thing just to help Iblis get to hell?
2 Marabout, Shriffo愀 the knowledge they got is from the Holy Quarn right,
Here Suntou you seem to imply it愀 from jinns sorry if got you wrong. How
comes they teach people how to read the Quran how to pray of course with a
price (one have to work for them for many years) most of the time grand son end
up teaching you. They stand at the local Gamours preaching the word of Islam,
from the Holy Quran Suntou it dose not tally if they working for the jinn
devil Satan or what ever one chose to call them.
Let modesty be the rule of observance.
----- Original Message ----
From: SUNTOU TOURAY
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:05:17 PM
Subject: an interesting link on the Jinns.
an indept piece on the world of the jinn was posted to me today. haruna,
have a read. it may deepen our quest for answers. and also i wrote a short piece
on a our bolong family law enforcement. i hope LJ can throw his opinon of
the suitability of Kabila in today's environment.
http://suntoumana.blogspot.com/
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