Dave Manneh, you know, in as much you wish to safe face, the topic at
hand does not accommodate joking as far I am concern. Your ignorance
of how i communicate is making you to further plunge yourself in an
ending deepening hole.
Fight your own battle, speak for yourself and let others say what they
want to say. Going by all the comments you made on the subject, there
is no doubt in my mind, you havent given time to reading the Foroyaa
articles, thus your mistaken conclusions.
Orwell or Bidwell, any critical reader would picked with less efforts
the political motivated analysis of the politicians con journalist at
the Foroyaa.
I guess, it is issues like this, we get know the real characters of
folks like you Dave. In as much as I may have a different view point
with Demba Baldeh and Yero, they have discussed, agree and even
disagreed with me on platforms which are by far open, hostile and
aggressive than the Gambiapost would ever be. Why, because the
majority of people there use pen names, and can therefore say whatever
they want. Yet I have not being emotional to ever distract me from
discussing any subject i set out to contribute on.
Now you have not just become a magician, but also a Medical doctor who
can gauge emotional levels. Good on you young Nyancho.
The sad thing in your recent posting is that, you seems to be speaking
for section of the G-post. May be you are assuming too much Dave. The
G-post here and all other Gambian discussion forums are full of
diverse people with varied view points. trying to speak for others
will expose you to being a poodle.
Another issue is that, I am here on my free will, whenever i decide to
take a break or leave the G-Post, i will do that by my own accord, so
stop your endless rudeness Dave.
You cannot tell me what to do. I do not discuss private Gambians on
any forum, i discuss politics and other matters of national interest,
if you think bringing people into topical discussion is right, you go
ahead and do that. I will do no such thing. That is the simple
statement i made. Your opinion on the matter is so out of place, it
doesn't warrant any response from me again, unless you insist on
getting personal. I will remain polite for as long it is necessary.
As for the subject of Sumbuya, Dave you were not joking. The
deliberate strategy of some nonsensical Gambians who snob people
becaue they are from different location of our country can be seen in
not only forums like this, but also in social gatherings. Your
comments borders on such pettiness, silly miscalculation and
irresponsible remarks.
When adults are conversing, the least they should observe is
respecting each other. Why should you attribute a Sumbuya to me and
not your Coveted stylist and modern G-Posters? Did I ever read you
using such words against anyone here?
I don't care the area any Gambian is from Dave, neither do i care
about the little clubs at play in the forums. So don't even give
yourself the idea that you can corner me and bring your club against
me. If you discuss the subject rationally, i will dialogue with you,
and if you get petty, well a response in kind awaits. Finally, it is a
sure sign of utter arrogance that, you cannot simply respect the
request of people to refer to them with first name. That speak volume
brother.
Suntou Bolonba
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr Touray,
>
> If only there was a font type (Times, Arial, Verdana) Ironic which you could
> have utilised rather than clogging up much needed bandwidth; for the irony
> in this latest putrescence is mindboggling.
>
> I think it was that greatest of writers; George Orwell, who wrote in his
> essay ‘In Front of Your Nose’ thus: "We are all capable of believing things
> which we know to be untrue and then, when we are finally proved wrong,
> impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right”.
>
> Good lord almighty ain’t you an emotional, touchy geezer!! Stop taking
> yourself too seriously and learn to laugh at yourself. The Khaftan and
> Sumbuya line was meant to inject humour into the exchanges as I felt you
> were taking things too personally. Honestly it was not meant as a slight
> against your person or your sartorial taste, or lack of it thereof.
>
> To be brutally honest, if you are not willing or indeed capable of rational,
> dispassionate and mature debates, then I would suggest you stopped
> commenting on issues to do with our country on this list as we all have a
> stake in it. The corollary will be to post somewhere else where your ideas
> or views will be held as sacrosanct and not challenged. I can assure you,
> that won’t be this list.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Dave
>
> PS: What is the reason for copying the GambiaL on our exchanges? Just
> curious!
>
>
>
> 2009/10/31 suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray
>> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>>
>>
>> Dave, please, please, let us keep things simple. Stop trying to cause
>> disharmorny in a political matter like this. The issue has nothing to
>> do with me and you, it is on a subject matter which is cleary define.
>> If you have nothing to say on the subject, better do something else
>> that take your fancy. I have no interest what assumption you have of
>> me. As you said, i don't know you and you don't know me, so why not we
>> accept each other base on simple principles. It is a simple request,
>> refer to me with my first name. Whether you know me out side the
>> confine space of your G-post is completely irrelevant.
>> My Kaftan or Sumbuya never harm you, or did they? I respect you and i
>> hope you stop getting excited. I may have little friends in your
>> coveted G-Post, but i careless about that Dave. Address the issue and
>> lets discuss. My Kaftan, Subumya, waranba or Daba kurto is none of
>> your business....
>> I would have thought an experience G-Post member like you would have
>> grown out the petty attitude inherent in some folks out here. But how
>> wrong i was to think like that.
>> Suntou Bolonba
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> > Mr Touray,
>> > I rather know that you are incapable of an unsentimental and vigorous
>> > debate
>> > that's all.
>> >
>> > PS: Do not feel too special for your Khaftan and Sumbuya: I only call
>> > people
>> > by their first names if/when I happen to know them outside of the online
>> > fora, or have had personal dealings with them. So am afraid it is going
>> > to
>> > be Mr Touray; and I hope you won't take offence at that.
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Dave
>> > 2009/10/29 suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>
>> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray
>> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dave, i am never a pacifist, you of all people should never start
>> >> assuming things about others. What is alien to me is completely
>> >> unknown to you. So don't become a magician all of a sudden simply
>> >> because i direct you to read again the reports of Foroyaa. The way you
>> >> see the coverage and how you interpret is up to you. We see things
>> >> diffierently, but anyone who tries to pretend foroyaa is not being
>> >> funny here is avoidin the obvious issues raised. By the way, address
>> >> me as suntou if that is not of any trouble. Thanks
>> >> Sntou Bolonba
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks Mr Touray.
>> >> > He who posits bears the burden of proof. This is a simple axiom. But
>> >> > I
>> >> > fully
>> >> > understand why you would find this concept a bit alien.
>> >> > Kind Regards,
>> >> > Dave
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/10/29 suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray
>> >> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dave, if you cannot pick the queries from my humble observation,
>> >> >> sorry. I am not here to point to you at any direction. The two links
>> >> >> provide enough substance to see the game of Foroyaa. Use that time
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> have and re-read the comments from the paper.
>> >> >> Suntou Bolonba
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Dave Manneh
>> >> >> <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Mr Touray,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please elaborate a little more if you would, on what constitutes
>> >> >> > “Political
>> >> >> > Opportunism” on Forooya and/PDOIS’ part/s?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I’ve read both links you provided, and I am still none the wiser
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > could have raised your ire.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I suppose most importantly too, why, in your view
>> >> >> > should PDOIS and Foroyaa be two entities; independent and separate
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > each
>> >> >> > other?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kind Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dave
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > NB: Am at a loose-end presently; having finished one project and
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > started
>> >> >> > on another. So I've spare time to indulge in cyber chitchat.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2009/10/29 suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou
>> >> >> >> touray
>> >> >> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In has much i wish to avoid focusing on the style the foroyya
>> >> >> >> news
>> >> >> >> paper adopted in reporting the UDP rally and subsiquent events,
>> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> cannot but comment on their strategic ploy to make the issue down
>> >> >> >> bit.
>> >> >> >> The Foroyaa reportage culled from www.gainako.com higligthed
>> >> >> >> serious
>> >> >> >> opportunism on the part of Foroyaa the arm of PDOIS. They claim
>> >> >> >> that,
>> >> >> >> whatever was mention on the UDP rally was reported by their
>> >> >> >> paper.
>> >> >> >> As
>> >> >> >> if rallies are the same as news paper items. If it is trust and
>> >> >> >> mutual
>> >> >> >> cooperation we are all advocating, the Foroyaa should change its
>> >> >> >> stance and see to it that, their views or way is not the only
>> >> >> >> way.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We want to respect the persons and agendas of all the opposition,
>> >> >> >> try
>> >> >> >> to bridge the gabs, therefore, Foroyaa activitiues on this issue
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> unprofessional and politically bias.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2009/10/29/public-meeting-by-political-parties-is-a-constitutional-political-and-civic-right-and-not-a-privilege.html.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In an earlier coverage on the episode, Foroyya went as far as
>> >> >> >> quote
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> number to the people that attended the rally. Were they guessing
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> did they actually count the number of people that attended the
>> >> >> >> rally?
>> >> >> >> Foroyaa should do its best to always be seen to be independent of
>> >> >> >> PDOIS, if not their side of stories like this will be rejected
>> >> >> >> and/or
>> >> >> >> taken with a pinch of salt.
>> >> >> >> http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3750
>> >> >> >> Suntou Bolonba
>> >> >> >>
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