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So, getting a paycheck from ports is a contribution hah!  Someone else is
from Gunjur here, keep talking.


>From: Edward Secka <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Credibility
>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:04:17 -0600
>
>Joe,
>I don't have to tell you all, But to be frank with you, I did contribute a
>lot in the Gambia.I have rendered a good service at the GPA and with
>respect
>and honor.With the help of Jan Hendricks who is presently residing in the
>Gambia,We have built a clinic in Gunjur.The MP of that area and my two
>friends Lamin and Omar and the folks at the Ministry of Finance who were
>very supportive could  be my withness.Anyway I guess that should be enough
>for now unless you want to know more.I did also give a noble service to The
>Gambia Ports Authority,at least I did contribute something, so I don't
>deserve being depicted as a hipocrit. anyway that is your opinion because
>you can't disgest my summons hahaha! I rest my case. I hold nothing against
>you though.
>
>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Credibility
>>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:08:06 +0000
>>
>>Edu/Brime, these speeches are all fine and dandy, however, you have been
>>preaching this sermon each time you thought you'll got me.  What have you
>>ever done Gambian?  This is not a contest, but it is what I call truth in
>>discussion.  If you talk about unity, you are expected to have unified
>>some
>>where or some time.  If you talk about coming together, you are expected
>>to
>>have came together some time.  If you talk about sacrifice, you are
>>expected
>>to have done that.  The fact is you participate in nothing and contribute
>>in
>>nothing but hypocrisy.  Just because people ignore some of your insanity
>>does not mean that folks do not see through you.  Please humor us and
>>rhyme
>>on Yaya and his ridicule of your fathers, uncles, and brothers for
>>starters.
>>  I am sure you can dig something from your arsenal of philosophical
>>thoughts and address the promise by Yaya to kill the NADD leaders.  Naah!
>>The locust in you will not permit, so I thought.  You people are sickening
>>with your hypocrisy.  So, folks are so stupid that they do not recognize
>>the
>>plague that is you'll.
>>
>>Chi Jaama
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>
>>>From: Edward Secka <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: Credibility
>>>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:47:14 -0600
>>>
>>>Mr Jeng,
>>>This is exactly what am talking about, look at your response and the
>>>allegations you levied against me. You are being very reactive in
>>>labelling
>>>me as dishonest yet you don't know me. How can you be credible if you can
>>>just show up from the blue and judge people.I think you are trying to be
>>>petty here,Bro, you should know better, I might not make sense to you
>>>because you can't digest the truth. I have no problem with no ones
>>>approach,
>>>and you know what? I don't intend to, but one thing for sure, I will be a
>>>concerned and informed citizen involved in the political process to
>>>ensure
>>>my voice is heard and my vote is counted. Read my comments clearly before
>>>making a judgment.
>>>Peace
>>>Brime
>>>
>>>>From: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: Credibility
>>>>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:22:21 -0500
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Secka:
>>>>
>>>>You are not making any sense. I am not sure what this theme of yours:
>>>>reactive and proactive has to do  with the price of tea in China. I can
>>>>tell you one thing, we have a credible opposition in the Gambia called
>>>>NADD
>>>>because of the relentless effort of people like Joe Sambou. Like him or
>>>>hate him, heck you can even disagree with his approach, but his effort
>>>>is
>>>>loaded with honesty, truthfulness, and he does not have any political
>>>>aspiration that you dishonest people seem to be insinuating. The Gambia
>>>>cannot, at this juncture loose the dedication of people like Joe Sambou.
>>>>Now, we can very easily loose you and still bring democracy to the
>>>>shores
>>>>of the Gambia. Please allow us to give our best without the pettiness
>>>>that
>>>>you folks are use to. This train has left the station moons ago, and we
>>>>are
>>>>not stopping, or turning back for some of you folks.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Musa Jeng
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Edward Secka <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > Date: 2005/11/13 Sun PM 06:34:27 EST
>>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > Subject: Re: Credibility
>>>> >
>>>> > Kabir,
>>>> > Why do you jump into a sudden conclusion and dish what I said to Joe.
>>>>I
>>>>did
>>>> > not direct what I said to no  single individual. It is my opinion
>>>>which
>>>>is
>>>> > assumed to be what is right as far as I am concerned. Why would I try
>>>>to
>>>> > mobilise people who are very reactive in their thinking and deeds.Hey
>>>>Bro,
>>>> > All those that are in power and those trying to be in power are very
>>>> > reactive, as a result am not politically motivated to rally for
>>>>either
>>>>the
>>>> > present government or the opposition.
>>>> > " to come together positively and influence the masses and the rest
>>>>will
>>>> > follow".  Bro, The merits of good things easily show themselves, we
>>>>have
>>>>to
>>>> > be very proactive and influencial if any political ambitions are to
>>>>be
>>>> > achieved. The rest that will follow is the merit of the good deeds
>>>>and
>>>>being
>>>> > proactive rather than reactive is the only means to acheive it. If
>>>>you
>>>>can
>>>> > balance things up, you will know that what I said did fit some
>>>>people
>>>>other
>>>> > than Joe.Why do I have to mobilise if people are already mobilising,
>>>>I
>>>>think
>>>> > it is like creating  sub divisions of the  already divided Gambia and
>>>>after
>>>> > all what can one person do. Bro, dig into my comments and make your
>>>> > judgements, but it is my raw opinion and is not tendered to chastise
>>>>or
>>>> > enrage anyone.
>>>> > peace
>>>> > Brime
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > ><[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > >Subject: Re: Credibility
>>>> > >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:31:29 +0000
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Brime,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >All the philosophising aside, how much mobilising have you been
>>>>doing
>>>>"to
>>>> > >come together positively and influence the masses and the rest will
>>>> > >follow".?!?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >"Influence the MASSES and the REST will follow"? Who are the rest?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Anyway, someone who has spent all his spare time trying to mobilise
>>>>is
>>>> > >accused without any justifiable cause of being a spy for the the
>>>>very
>>>> > >regime that has brought the living hell into Gambians' lives. When
>>>>the
>>>> > >person who brought forward those preposterous accusations has not
>>>>hidden
>>>> > >his political ambitions I think you should have been more irked by
>>>>his
>>>> > >statements than that of someone who has never exhibited any
>>>>political
>>>> > >ambitions.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >If you are sitting on all this knowledge about political
>>>>mobilasation
>>>>why
>>>> > >are you not on the forefront of the campaign for a better Gambia? Is
>>>>it
>>>> > >because of the Gambia of today is ideal according to you?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I think your advice is directed at the wrong audience; barely a week
>>>>ago
>>>> > >The President of the Republic of The Gambia was talking rudely to
>>>>and
>>>> > >threatening Gambian elders and sending death threats to others. Did
>>>>I
>>>>ever
>>>> > >hear you condemn Jammeh on any issue?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Yet when Joe calls someone who has lied about him a liar you
>>>>suddenly
>>>> > >become philosophical? Geez, Gambians!
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Kabir.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >ecka <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> > >Hi folks,
>>>> > >As we look at those things within our circle of concern, it becomes
>>>> > >apparent
>>>> > >that there are somethings over which we have no real control and
>>>>others
>>>> > >that
>>>> > >we can do something about. Proactive people focus their efforts in
>>>>the
>>>> > >circle of influence,they work on things they can do something about
>>>>and
>>>>the
>>>> > >nature of their energy is positive,enlarging and magnifying causing
>>>>their
>>>> > >circle of influence to increase. This is what is required of gentle
>>>>people
>>>> > >who want to lead The Gambia in the future. On the other hand,
>>>>reactive
>>>> > >people focus their efforts on the weaknesses of other people and
>>>> > >circumstances in which they have no control.Their focus results in
>>>>blaming
>>>> > >and accusing attitudes , reactive language, and increased feelings
>>>>of
>>>> > >victimization.Which way do we have to take if we have the interest
>>>>of
>>>>the
>>>> > >Gambia at heart? Convince the Gambian populace sincerely or being
>>>> > >borderline
>>>> > >mouthy from abroad and cause choas in the Gambia.Some people here
>>>>are
>>>>very
>>>> > >reactive and I know that they are cowards with big words.If there is
>>>>to
>>>>be
>>>> > >change in the Gambia we need to come together positively and
>>>>influence
>>>>the
>>>> > >masses and the rest will follow. Being disrecpectful and reactive
>>>>does
>>>>not
>>>> > >hold the future of our country.
>>>> > >Peace
>>>> > >Brime
>>>> > >
>>>> > > >From: Joe Sambou
>>>> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
>>>> > > >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:53:22 +0000
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Thanks Tunkareh! STGDP knows who you are and that is enough.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Chi Jaama
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Joe
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >>From: Lang Tunkara
>>>> > > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
>>>> > > >>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:38 +0000
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>Jabou:
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>You wrote:
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>"empty chatterboxes with a limited vocabulary that
>>>> > > >>consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language,
>>>>supplemented
>>>> > >by
>>>> > > >>unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said
>>>>characters
>>>> > > >>having
>>>> > > >>prevailed over anyone"
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>You are absolutely right, and I think they should be ashamed of
>>>> > > >>themselves. But the big question is, what the future holds for
>>>>the
>>>> > >Gambia
>>>> > > >>if these folks, charaterise above, succeed in becoming part of an
>>>> > > >>administration that replaces Jammeh? It is scary.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>Lamin
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>From: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
>>>> > > >>Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:45:54 EST
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh,
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >I was going to post these few words of mine this morning but an
>>>> > > >>engagement
>>>> > > >> >kept me away from my computer until now, and it is interesting
>>>>that
>>>> > > >>Jasseh
>>>> > > >> >Conteh seems to have taken some of the words right out of my
>>>>mouth.
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >I wanted to ask you not to waste your valuable time trying to
>>>>appeal
>>>> > >to
>>>> > > >> >those who demonstrate daily their lack of good judgement.
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Additionally, my comment is that only the simple minded can
>>>>believe
>>>> > > >>that
>>>> > > >> >credibility is measured by such a short yardstick, and that it
>>>>is
>>>> > > >>only they who
>>>> > > >> >mistake a refusal to engage empty chatterboxes with a limited
>>>> > > >>vocabulary
>>>> > > >>that
>>>> > > >> >consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language,
>>>>supplemented
>>>> > > >>by
>>>> > > >> >unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said
>>>> > >characters
>>>> > > >>having
>>>> > > >> >prevailed over anyone.
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >I hope that you are having a good weekend over there in the UK.
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Sister Jabou Joh
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >In a message dated 11/11/2005 7:51:33 P.M. Central Standard
>>>>Time,
>>>> > > >> >[log in to unmask] writes:
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Joe and Jassey Conteh, as long serving subscribe to Gambia
>>>>discussion
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >> >group on the net, I think what matters is to forget abut the
>>>>past
>>>> > > >>different from
>>>> > > >> >the story about our humble
>>>> > > >>sister. I have a lot respect about her, Joe and
>>>> > > >> >Mr Conteh. We lived out side in Gambia and calling families and
>>>> > >reading
>>>> > > >>about
>>>> > > >> >news makes us to determine that Gamboia come first. I am alway
>>>> > > >>determine
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >> >know that it is our bit and piece that can lead a way forward
>>>>that
>>>>I
>>>> > > >>wanted to
>>>> > > >> >challenge the Gambian diaspora in United Kingdom that we have
>>>>to
>>>>put
>>>> > > >>our
>>>> > > >> >house in order cause 2006 is near. We all near a way
>>>>forward.please
>>>> > > >>come
>>>> > > >>me
>>>> > > >> >brothers in Uk for a way forward and replicate the patriotic
>>>>efforts
>>>> > > >>our
>>>> > > >>brother
>>>> > > >> >ub U.SA. I know we can make a diffrence.
>>>> > > >> >Contact
>>>> > > >> >Home:-01618771939
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Joe Sambou wrote:
>>>> > > >> >Hmmmmmm! How convenient. Looks like someone missed the boat all
>>>> > > >>together.
>>>> > > >> >Interestingly, it is because of your fabrications of the past,
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>reason
>>>> > > >> >why we have to ask folks to substantiate their claims against
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>innocent.
>>>> > > >> >You lied here that I was a snitch for Yaya and ran for cover
>>>>when
>>>> > >folks
>>>> > > >>ask
>>>> > > >> >you to substantiate it. Today, whose integrety is in question?
>>>>Yours
>>>> > > >> >Conteh in case you forget. You have been proven to be a liar
>>>>yourself
>>>> > > >>so, I
>>>> > > >> >am not surprised that you will not be interested to know
>>>>whether
>>>>in
>>>> > > >>fact
>>>> > > >>Mr.
>>>> > > >> >Bah is framed because of what Alieu alleged. Do you think with
>>>>you
>>>> > >feet
>>>> > > >>up
>>>> > > >> >or what?
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >Joe
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> > >From: Jassey Conteh
>>>> > > >> > >Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
>>>> > > >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa
>>>> > > >>Nderry and Last card Sey
>>>> > > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:54:00 -0500
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Mr. Sanyang:
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > > A code of professional conduct is indeed a venture for its
>>>>members
>>>> > > >> > >to consistently apply principles and standards the profession
>>>> > > >>dictates. Pa
>>>> > > >> > >Nderry M'Bye has a right to report, but he should do so with
>>>>ethical
>>>> > > >> > >values. After reading Mr. M'Bye's recent posting, I became
>>>>concerned
>>>> > > >>with
>>>> > > >> > >his integrity and objectivity. Is Mr. M'Bye doing a
>>>>disservice
>>>>to
>>>> > >his
>>>> > > >> > >profession and the opposition?
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > > I searched every news outlet in the Gambia to verify Mr.
>>>>M'Bye's
>>>> > > >> > >narration. I could not find any source that collaborated his
>>>> > >posting,
>>>> > > >> > >except his own. Mr. M'Bye's
>>>> > > >>narration and conclusion should be evaluated
>>>> > > >> > >with caution. Was his posting fabricated? Talk is cheap, but
>>>>one
>>>> > > >>should
>>>> > > >> > >consistently apply the principles and standards.
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > > As we move forward for a yahyaless Gambia, we must be
>>>>willing
>>>>to
>>>> > > >> > >disagree with fellow comrades whose messages might be
>>>>deterrent
>>>>to
>>>> > > >>our
>>>> > > >> > >struggle. How could one openly threatened a dictator who has
>>>>been
>>>> > > >>known to
>>>> > > >> > >use every effort in suppressing the opposition? Should we not
>>>> > > >>advocate
>>>> > > >>for
>>>> > > >> > >a free and fair election thereby reaching the electorate that
>>>>we
>>>> > > >> > >desperately need? Why is it that the presidential election is
>>>>going
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >>be
>>>> > > >> > >held on a different date? Do you know why? Because Jammeh
>>>>would
>>>>use
>>>> > > >>every
>>>> > > >> > >effort with his thugs to stay in power? Should we reach an
>>>>agreement
>>>> > > >>with
>>>> > > >> > >the APRC government on the rule of conduct during the
>>>>election?
>>>> > > >>Does the
>>>> > > >> > >opposition have willing and concerned external parties to
>>>>monitor
>>>> > >the
>>>> > > >> > >elections? I believe we should address these issues before
>>>> > > >>fabricating
>>>> > > >> > >from afar.
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > > I commend you for your truthfulness regardless of your
>>>>political
>>>> > > >> > >doctirne.
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Naphiyo,
>>>> > > >> > >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >-----Original Message-----
>>>> > > >> > >From: Alieu Sanyang
>>>> > > >> > >Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:34 PM
>>>> > > >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card
>>>> > > >>Sey
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Joe,
>>>> > > >> > >I am not a spokes person for the Jammeh government. If you
>>>>have
>>>>any
>>>> > > >> > >questions with regards to what they believe or what I report
>>>>on
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>Bah
>>>> > > >> > >case, I guess you are intelligent enough to know how to fetch
>>>>for
>>>> > > >> > >information.
>>>> > > >> > >I am not sure if you are lying or the Jammeh government is
>>>>lying.
>>>> > >All
>>>> > > >>that
>>>> > > >> > >I know is that my sources are right.
>>>> > > >> > >And again, it is your choice to believe in what you want to.
>>>>I
>>>>look
>>>> > > >>forward
>>>> > > >> > >to the day we as Gambians are not being blinded like you are
>>>>to
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>truth.
>>>> > > >> > >Did anyone prove here that what Mr. Nderry reported was true?
>>>>Only
>>>> > > >> > >Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts to question him. He never
>>>>came
>>>>back
>>>> > > >>on
>>>> > > >>this
>>>> > > >> > >List to
>>>> > > >>even explain. What did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
>>>> > > >> > >So big guy, let us all be honest to ourselves if we have to
>>>>be
>>>>able
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >>move
>>>> > > >> > >our nation further. Let us all have our differences but still
>>>>be
>>>> > >able
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >> > >accept that we have different ideas and believes withou
>>>>calling
>>>> > > >>anyone a
>>>> > > >> > >liar.
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Alieu Sanyang.
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Joe Sambou wrote:
>>>> > > >> > >Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence
>>>>against
>>>> > > >>NADD,
>>>> > > >> > >like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by
>>>>Saddam.
>>>> > > >>Alieu,
>>>> > > >> > >have you read the charges that the government you are proud
>>>>of
>>>> > >levied
>>>> > > >> > >against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is
>>>>correct?
>>>>If
>>>> > >you
>>>> > > >> > >believe they are off
>>>> > > >>track, then don't you think you should help them beef
>>>> > > >> > >up those charges to include Last Card and exclude Bah? Looks
>>>>like
>>>> > > >>they
>>>> > > >> > >missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells me that
>>>>this
>>>>is a
>>>> > > >> > >phantom from both sides, for if you have this evidence, you
>>>> > >certainly
>>>> > > >> > >cannot
>>>> > > >> > >allow an innocent person get railroaded, will you?
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Chi Jaama
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >Joe
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
>>>> > > >> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
>>>> > > >> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> > > >Joe,
>>>> > > >> > > >I am not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the
>>>> > > >>integrity to
>>>> > > >> > >ask
>>>> > > >> > > >the guys who pulled the same stories against the Jammeh
>>>>regime.
>>>> > > >> > > >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It was not
>>>> > >written
>>>> > > >>for
>>>> > > >> > >you
>>>> > > >> > > >to judge either. Call it anything you want to.
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > >Alieu Sanyang
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > >Joe Sambou wrote:
>>>> > > >> > > >Alieu, you have also made some serious allegations against
>>>>Last
>>>> > > >>Card
>>>> > > >>and
>>>> > > >> > >I
>>>> > > >> > > >am interested in the substance of your allegations. Yaya
>>>>said
>>>>that
>>>> > > >>NADD
>>>> > > >> > > >gave Wade fake documents, which both you and I know to be a
>>>> > > >>fabrication,
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> > >and
>>>> > > >> > > >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>Senegalese
>>>> > > >> > > >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you present
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>evidence
>>>> > > >> > > >you are refering to, to support you claims? I don't know
>>>>your
>>>> > > >>relation
>>>> > > >> > >with
>>>> > > >> > > >Yaya, but you can surely advise him about the rules of
>>>>evidence,
>>>> > >or
>>>> > > >>is
>>>> > > >> > >this
>>>> > > >> > > >the same as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians
>>>> > > >>about "Oil
>>>> > > >> > >and
>>>> > > >> > > >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is very
>>>>serious
>>>>and
>>>> > > >>involves
>>>> > > >> > > >the life of an innocent person, that you are morally
>>>>required
>>>>to
>>>> > > >>show
>>>> > > >> > >your
>>>> > > >> > > >hand. Otherwise, I will just disregard it as "hear say".
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> > > >Chi Jaama
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > >Joe
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
>>>> > > >> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > > >> > > > >Subject: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
>>>> > > >> > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18 -0800
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last Card Sey have seen
>>>>their
>>>>plot
>>>> > > >>to
>>>> > > >> > >breed
>>>> > > >> > > > >blood between The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry,
>>>>I
>>>>think
>>>> > > >>you
>>>> > > >> > > >should
>>>> > > >> > > > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be spreading
>>>>news
>>>>on
>>>> > > >>this
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> >List
>>>> > > >> > > > >that is not only inaccurate, but defamatory. You have
>>>>been
>>>> > > >>working
>>>> > > >>so
>>>> > > >> > > >hard
>>>> > > >> > > > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your
>>>> > > >>asylum case.
>>>> > > >> > >This
>>>> > > >> > > >is
>>>> > > >> > > > >what I do not understand about we the Gambians. Anytime
>>>>we
>>>>have
>>>> > > >>our
>>>> > > >> > > > >interests to follow, we will go the extra mile to put our
>>>> > > >>interests
>>>> > > >> > >above
>>>> > > >> > > > >our national interest.
>>>> > > >> > > > >In your most recent lies, you said some folks have been
>>>> > >arrested.
>>>> > > >>I am
>>>> > > >> > > >one
>>>> > > >> > > > >the few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that
>>>>there
>>>> > > >>was no
>>>> > > >> > > > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This
>>>> > > >>speaks volumes
>>>> > > >> > > > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all seen
>>>>here.
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >For Last Card Sey, it was shocking to learn that you are
>>>>still
>>>> > >in
>>>> > > >> > > > >possession of Gambian government documents that you are
>>>> > >selfishly
>>>> > > >>using
>>>> > > >> > > >to
>>>> > > >> > > > >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was
>>>>surprising
>>>> > > >>to learn
>>>> > > >> > > >that
>>>> > > >> > > > >you have sent falsely signed documents to the Senegalese
>>>> > > >>authorities to
>>>> > > >> > > > >show they were coming from Gambian authorities. What I do
>>>>not
>>>> > > >> > >understand
>>>> > > >> > > >as
>>>> > > >> > > > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you?
>>>>In
>>>>fact,
>>>> > > >>I got
>>>> > > >> > > >from
>>>> > > >> > >
>>>> > > >> > >reliable sources that the recent Samba Bah case has to do
>>>>with
>>>>what
>>>> > > >>you
>>>> > > >> > > > >false signed as Mr. Bah. Having Gambian government
>>>>staples
>>>>and
>>>> > > >> > > >misrepresent
>>>> > > >> > > > >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government
>>>>is
>>>>not
>>>> > > >> > >pursuing
>>>> > > >> > > > >that from this end. You have been successfully using a
>>>>lot
>>>>of
>>>> > > >>folks you
>>>> > > >> > > > >come in contact with for your selfish interests against
>>>>the
>>>> > > >>Jammeh
>>>> > > >> > > >regime.
>>>> > > >> > > > >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being
>>>> > > >>oppositions, but
>>>> > > >> > >there
>>>> > > >> > > > >is so much and everything wrong with being anti-Gambia.
>>>>Some
>>>>of
>>>> > > >>us
>>>> > > >>even
>>>> > > >> > > > >with other citizenship identities residing out side The
>>>> > > >>Gambia do not
>>>> > > >> > >go
>>>> > > >> > > > >this far to promote our self interests.
>>>> > > >> > > > >I think what this is all about tells us what kind of
>>>>people
>>>> > >folks
>>>> > > >>like
>>>> > > >> > > >you
>>>> > > >> > > > >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and
>>>>will
>>>>not
>>>> > > >> > >succeed
>>>> > > >> > > >in
>>>> > > >> > > > >being part of any government forever in The Gambia. What
>>>>you
>>>>are
>>>> > > >>all
>>>> > > >> > > >doing
>>>> > > >> > > > >tell us how you will run your families and your country
>>>> > > >>if opportunity
>>>> > > >> > > >was
>>>> > > >> > > > >given.
>>>> > > >> > > > >What I will strongly suggest for some of these
>>>>individuals
>>>>you
>>>> > > >>all
>>>> > > >> > > >defamed
>>>> > > >> > > > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal actions
>>>>against
>>>> > > >>you even
>>>> > > >> > > >in
>>>> > > >> > > > >The Gambia at your absence. I think if convicted, the
>>>>government
>>>> > > >>of the
>>>> > > >> > > > >Gambia and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you
>>>>to
>>>>face
>>>> > > >>the
>>>> > > >> > > >music.
>>>> > > >> > > > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop putting our
>>>> > >national
>>>> > > >> > > >interests
>>>> > > >> > > > >behind our own.
>>>> > > >> > > > >Good luck to you all.
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >Alieu Sanyang.
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >
>>>> > > >> > > > >
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