Ebrima Ceesay "Manding Mori",

Chill out! You are not at war with anyone, at least not with me. Let me go ahead
and say your de-listing from the L will be a substantial loss, but that does not
mean one should not point out your defects. Again, I reiterate, your fight with
Salieu (if that is what you will call it) should have been "private". All of us
have a past and you shouldn't sound arrogant by threatening to reveal his past.
We are not interested in that.

I will urge you to continue forwarding to us those valuable pieces of info. you
are already forwarding and refrain from sending private and personal stuff. Each
of us is a master  in our own domain and there is no need for bragging about
individual accomplishments. You kind of seem to do that a lot whenever someone
disagrees with you.

By the way I can step in your shoes and call you names just like you do, but I am
not going to do that. I believe we can disagree to agree without resorting to
labeling names.

God Speed!

Pa Mambuna,
Lexington, KY

Ebrima Ceesay wrote:

> Mambuna Bojang:
>
> To tell you the truth, I do not give a damn regarding your views about me!
> In fact, I don't care what you think about me! I am now tired of this
> unending hypocrisy on Gambia-L and, henceforth, I am ready for a war/fight.
> I do not care what other people will think about me! I mean it! And I am
> even ready to unsubscribe from the L.
>
> I am now ready to show any member of Gambia L what my true colours are! I am
> now tired of this diplomacy business. Why is it that some Gambians do not
> want people who are nice/gentle like me? No wonder people like Matarr Njie
> are given the fear and respect they do not even deserve, simply because they
> are rude! What some of you deserve is someone who is direct, abrupt and
> nasty!
>
> Well, from now on, I'll give it as it is! In fact, you are lucky that I do
> not have adequate time right now; otherwise I would have exposed your
> hypocrisy! Didn't you read what Sal Taal wrote about me, on the L. And if
> yes, don't I also have the right to send my version to the L and copy it to
> Sal?
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> >From: Mambuna Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
> >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:35:54 -0400
> >
> >Mr. Ceesay,
> >
> >With all due respect, I don't think you should have sent this "personal
> >attack"
> >on the list. Salieu Taal wrote to you in private, and please next time
> >respond
> >to private mails privately. If you have a beef with Salieu or vise visa,
> >most of
> >us are not interested in it. While I do agree with many that you are doing
> >a
> >great job for disseminating insightful info. to this very list, I think you
> >sometimes take things out of context. Both Fatou and Salieu Taal have
> >reasons to
> >attack you about their father - who on this list won't if you were in their
> >shoes? They did it wisely in private and its amazing how you can turn that
> >around and expose their past on the "Bantaba". Its just ridiculous.
> >
> >By the way, I don't know any of the Taal family. I am just concern about
> >this
> >type of unwarranted personal attacks. It happens time and again on this
> >list,
> >and we have to be mindful. What goes around comes around.
> >
> >God Speed!
> >
> >Pa Mambuna
> >
> >
> >Ebrima Ceesay wrote:
> >
> > > Salieu Taal:
> > >
> > > Before I attempt to shatter your baseless allegations into pieces, I
> >must
> > > warn you now, that if this is the kind of shallow analysis, or flimsy
> > > writing you are going to be rendering us, especially with all the
> > > credentials added to your name, I'll have no choice except to ask
> >Buckingham
> > > University to revoke the Law Degree conferred on you forthwith. And I
> >mean
> > > it!
> > >
> > > Believe me, Sal, next time you send me this sort of woolly, quibble and
> > > muddled writing, I'll send a copy of it to Buckingham and ask them
> >whether
> > > this is the sort of narrow and smattering analysis/writing they are
> >teaching
> > > their students.
> > >
> > > I'll make it clear to the Rector at Buckingham University that if they
> >do
> > > not want their reputation as one of the leading Universities in England
> >to
> > > be tarnished, then they must ask you, Salieu, to go back to school and
> >do
> > > some serious reading!!
> > >
> > > Honestly, Salieu, being an alumnus of Buck - a very expensive private
> > > University for that matter - but, more significantly, given all the
> > > credentials/titles ( LLB; MA ) attached to your name, I had expected you
> >to
> > > come up with something mature, tangible, ungarbled and well-thought-out!
> > >
> > > But just like your Sister's trash the other day, yours too was childish
> >-
> > > very immature to say the least - empty and, of course, full of
> >distortions.
> > > What a shame! Sal, believe me, with all your bluff, I swear I CAN put
> >you in
> > > a classroom and teach you - having regard to the trash you just sent me.
> > >
> > > How can a lawyer, or someone with a Law Degree like you, deliberately
> >tell
> > > lies or distort the facts? Who told you that I was the one who wrote the
> > > Story about your Dad in the Daily Observer? Even your punk sister, Fatou
> > > Taal, did know that "Alieu Badara Sowe had written the story" in
> >question,
> > > except that she, Fatou, had lied that I had asked Alieu Badara Sowe to
> >write
> > > the story.
> > >
> > > Anyway, let me now move to the issue. Salieu, among other things, you
> > > wrote..."Ebrima, I am shocked by your unwarranted and unsubstantiated
> >attack
> > > on my father...You ought not write any story on the basis of hearsay or
> > > undisclosed sources... My father never came to the UK neither was he
> > > declared Persona Non Grata...Your report was factually unsound and
> >inspired
> > > by spite"...
> > >
> > > Sal, these cited quotations from your e-mail, are very misleading and
> > > unfounded to say the least - wrongly insinuating that I wrote the Daily
> > > Observer story - and in fact if you do not withdraw them forthwith, I'll
> > > write a pamphlet on your mediocrity and expose to the whole world, what
> >a
> > > man of straw you are!!!
> > >
> > > Let me now put things in perspective for you, in order to set the record
> > > straight, but also to expose you as a buffoon and a crank!
> > >
> > > ** The first point to note, Salieu, is that the story on your Dad, or in
> > > question, was written by Alieu Badara Sowe, who is an assistant editor
> >at
> > > the Observer and it was the very Observer he works for that carried the
> > > article.
> > >
> > > ** Question: How did I get into this whole saga?
> > >
> > > ** Now, Salieu, read this very carefully: One of my sources in Banjul
> >sent
> > > me an e-mail, where he had said that his Secretary had phoned his mobile
> > > when he was at a meeting in Yundum, and told him that one of the
> >newspapers
> > > had a headline, saying that "Ebou Taal was declared Persona non Grata by
> >the
> > > UK government."
> > >
> > > ** And later on, when my source finally got copies of his newspapers, he
> > > sent me another e-mail - which I forwarded to the L - disclosing, first
> >of
> > > all, that it was the Observer that reported the Ebou Taal story, adding
> >also
> > > that according to the article, Ebou Taal apparently travelled to London,
> >but
> > > was given 48 hours to leave the UK.
> > >
> > > ** Subsequently, the Daily Observer realised that the story was
> >unfounded
> > > and, as a result, they retracted it with an unreservedly written apology
> >to
> > > your Dad.
> > >
> > > ** And, needles to say, in keeping with the ethics of good journalism,
> > > Tombong Saidy - and later on my very self - forwarded the retraction in
> >the
> > > Daily Observer, to the L, except that in my own posting to the L, I made
> >a
> > > comment/observation to the effect, that it was "untrue" for the
> >Government
> > > to have said, through the Daily Observer, that your Dad was "never
> >convicted
> > > for embezzlement." Because the record shows that your Dad was indeed
> > > convicted for embezzlement!
> > >
> > > So, Sal, where did I go wrong? Or better yet, who told you, or where on
> > > earth did they say that I wrote the article in question? Yes, the person
> >who
> > > authored the story about your Dad, Alieu Badara Sowe, just like you, is
> > > someone I know very well, but if he had contacted me before hand, he
> > > wouldn't have written such a wrong and hasty story.
> > >
> > > I would have given him all the facts he needed to know regarding the
> > > decision by Yaya Jammeh to appoint/nominate your Dad as Gambia's
> > > ambassador-designate to the UK and, more significantly, the disapproval
> >of
> > > your Dad's nomination by the UK government.
> > >
> > > But, the truth of the matter, Salieu, is that I have not been in any
> >form of
> > > contact with the Daily Observer since Kenneth Best sold it to Amadou
> >Samba
> > > over a year ago. And, in fact, the last time I spoke with Alieu Badara
> >Sowe
> > > was in the Gambia in 1996!
> > >
> > > So, Salieu, where is the evidence that I wrote the article on your Dad?
> > > You've really let me down academically/intellectually! Sincerely
> >speaking, I
> > > had thought that you were better than this - on the whole you are
> >nothing
> > > but a lightweight, a froth, a pipsqueak!!
> > >
> > > And, surprisingly, at your level, you do not even write English well,
> >your
> > > grammar was disappointing to say the least! Boy, if I was lucky - many
> >years
> > > ago - to have the African Development Bank pay for my University
> >Education,
> > > as they did for you all these years, believe me, I could have been one
> >of
> > > your lecturers at Buck!
> > >
> > > You call me "half-baked." Me! In fact, Susan Rowe on Gambia L, who
> >trains
> > > teachers at Reading University, and who also wrote about 5 books, had to
> > > laugh at your claims - the whole of yesterday - that I, Ebrima Ceesay,
> >have
> > > "half-baked, haphazard and dubious educational background"...
> > >
> > > Well, except something is wrong with Susan Rowe (Laugh) but anyway it
> >was
> > > consoling to hear an independent person, an outsider like Susan Rowe,
> > > acknowledge that my writings, especially my English, are "impeccable"
> >unlike
> > > yours!
> > >
> > > And, by the way, even today your "half-baked" Journalist was invited in
> > > Reading to share his limited knowledge with the students there, but he
> > > couldn't make it!
> > >
> > > Well, let some of you continue to call me a "half baked" Journalist. The
> > > Prophet Muhammed (SAW), as we all know, was initially rejected by his
> >own
> > > people, but, subsequently, he carried the day! My day will come!
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, at least, I can find some comfort in the fact that while
> >Salieu
> > > Taal is calling me a "half-baked" Journalist, more and more outsiders
> >are
> > > recognising the potentials in the me and are in fact demanding to work
> >with
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Susan Rowe being the latest person, apart from the late John Wiseman, to
> >ask
> > > the "half-baked journalist" to co-author two books with her; and,
> >needless
> > > to say, that project will soon start.
> > >
> > > And again, thanks to Susan Rowe's benevolence, the necessary fund will
> >be
> > > obtained - through the Joseph Tree Foundation - for me to do my Doctoral
> > > thesis this September! Inshallah!
> > >
> > > May be, if I have the title of "Dr" added to my name, then people like
> > > Salieu Taal, who has this mentality that ONLY Ph.D holders are
> >academically
> > > good, will soon give me the respect I deserve! (laugh!)
> > >
> > > Ebrima Ceesay
> > > Birmingham, UK
> > >
> > > PS: Gambia-L: It always pays to be humble/modest, but when people keep
> > > pushing you against the world, one is obliged to be act immodestly!
> > >
> > > Dr Janneh: Thanks for clarification on the Omar Bongo/Jammeh e-mail my
> > > source sent me yesterday!
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