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jamba jobe <[log in to unmask]>
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Waw, this is Hamjatta at his best, a classical case of a distortionist who
would  just intellectually masturbate only to discover that all his rambles
are refuted by the facts, but instead of humbling with his usual acolytes
they would heap praises  upon each other as if coming from a great battle.
I find Hamjatas reasoning dysfunctional hence the very reason as to his self
righteousness. There is none on the web as good in fabricating lies as he
does.  The danger with his antagonistic approach towards Foroyaa at this
important political junction is apparent, he risk to alienate the good will
of these most seasoned politicians whom he has so much complex against, I
feel your arrogant approach is quite misplaced you should always get your
facts right before jumping to conclusions. This is the most dishonest way of
dealing with fundamental political issues.  what you say should not just be
vomited but must be grounded in reality , but the way you operate suggest a
malicious attempt to distort the reality. It is so called intellects like
you that are holding the progress to distinguishing facts from fiction.  But
the fact is clearly apparent to any genuine person,  all you do is brag
instead of adding any substance to the current debate of the need to forge
ahead.  Your dogmatic opposition to PDOIS is clear you should rise against
trivialities and deal with issues in their proper perspective but you are so
  blinded by the desire for power so much so that any thing that you
perceive as an obstacle would be subjected to attack without reason. This
approach is classical  dishonesty, for in as much as we want Jammeh to go we
must not lose our rationality we must subject all agreement to proper
scrutiny ,the last thing we want is to remove a tyrant only to replace him
with another , hence the need to clarify all issues regarding coalition.  As
for PDOIS it is a mature political party that will asses every situation
before it enters into an agreement the terms for which they will agree will
have to be clear and transparent, for they are not a party that would do
things behind the back of the people.  I feel you want to be recognized and
be remembered for a future position but please be sincere and stop being a
braggart, for all these superlatives, hyperboles and velvety adjectives will
not impress the matured and critically aware even though it might hoodwink
the gullible. As for Foroyaa do never be dettered or distracted by little
whims like Hamjatta those of us who appreciate your intelectual maturity
find you a graet service to the nation the sincerety and committed of your
leadeship is second to none in African politics I have lived and travelled
in Africa I can assure you that you are a novelty , charlatans like Hamjatta
should endeavour to read as much as you lot that would help advance him for
he resides in a state of fixity and rigidity,he cannot transform. He is
suffering from a mental complex, for all you lot ever did is to opine your
position so if someone else chooses to distort that reality he most be
allowed to live with his fantasies.  People like him are so desperate they
may call you Jammehs sttoges or whatever, to affirm their ignorance.  That
is why those who lack maturity cannot understand and see you lot as with
jammeh . They cannot accept the fact that your party stands for truth
irrespective of who is in power. All that can win Hajattas like is to swear
at Jammeh and fabricate lies they are very dishonest people who only gets
pleasure because on swears at Jammeh, instead of dealing with the political
reality. I for one I am anti Jammeh, and Jawara, but I do not want the
politics of trivialities, I live that Hamjatta the master in the art of
fabrications. Ater all his sits on the citadel where he sermonises about
issues which he knows nothing about.  If the parties want a coalition it
have to be open and tranparent, no side meetings and issuing of unilateral
declarations there has to be a consensus failure of which we cannot allow to
scapegoat other and try to potray them as anti.  People like Hamjatta do not
get their fact and arrive at highly erroneous conclusions only to discover
their dishonesty and refuse to appologise and retract, a person of inergrity
will operate this way but a simpleton will continue to argue only for the
sake of bragging.

saul

>From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: BURNING ISSUES FOROYAA Publication
>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:49:52 EDT
>
>For a paper that has more than a decade's experience in reporting and
>commenting on topical issues, Foroyaa seriously goofed here by allowing its
>columns to be reduced to being a mere recycling factory of APRC rumours and
>conspiratorial innuendoes. Instead of Foroyaa getting first hand
>information
>from the individual parties and personalities it reported about, it relied
>primarily on second hand accounts of events and inferring from them grossly
>erroneous stuff on the intent, manouevres and actions of some Opposition
>heavy weights. Foroyaa certainly doesn't help the collective spirit when it
>tendentiously make conspiratorial what is at best a genuine effort in the
>preliminary engagements of ironing out wrinkles that have the potential of
>hindering coalition progress. That is to say that it is perfectly normal
>that
>before formal negotiations take public form, backroom horse tradings - that
>are invariably raucous and having the negative impact of throwing poor
>light
>on the collective spirit if conducted in the public eye - have to run their
>course before the shape and form that the collective spirit will take is
>announced to the public. Foroyaa's whining or lamenting at this backroom
>horsetrading denotes and betrays its innocence in political negotiations.
>
>Insidiously, and with great literary adroitness, Foroyaa tried to paint a
>patrimonial picture of Hassan Musa Camara's informal appointment as the
>'political fixer' to work on narrowing down the differences between the
>different Opposition parties. Camara's appointment as a political go
>between
>to finesse a common platform of action for the Opposition signally
>represents
>the recognition that such a role invariably involves negotiation skills and
>a
>lack of direct interest in who heads the Opposition Alliance. Camara, by
>virtue of decades experience as a public figure who had served all areas of
>gov't and led a mainstream political party and the fact that he is
>ineligible
>to contest the current presidential elections, was better predisposed than
>anyone else to play this role without any ill-will towards and or fearing
>or
>favouring any political grouping. This is the context of Camara's current
>role. It is not so much the 'patrimonial kingmaker' Foroyaa subtly and
>deceptively tried to implant in its readerships' minds.
>
>Moreso, if Foroyaa was irresponsible and lazy in its reportage and
>commentary
>of the Opposition Alliance issue, it was surprisingly sulking and hubristic
>in the way it expects cooperation to eventually take form and work. For
>instance, Foroyaa commented that:
>
>"UDP has held rallies and invited opposition parties to join them but this
>had not materialised. Analysts observe that unless the opposition reaches
>an agreement on a presidential candidate it is not likely to have a joint
>rally which gives the impression that a particular aspirant's candidature
>has been endorsed. What is therefore of paramount importance is discussion
>to determine whether a coalition is to be forged or not."
>
>Above all, this passage demonstrates the extent to which, say, the UDP is
>ready to sell the message of cooperation. Foroyaa's assertion that the
>UDP's
>invitation has, as of yet, not materialised is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps,
>as it applies to the PDOIS, it is true that the UDP's invitation has, as of
>yet, yielded no dividends. But it is a matter of public record that UDP
>rallies have and continue to be graced by such PPP heavyweights like OJ and
>NCP or GPP stalwarts alike. Which takes me to Foroyaa's dissembling
>argument
>on why the UDP's invitation has, as of yet, not materialised; i.e., because
>there has been no agreement on an Opposition Alliance for the presidential
>elections, such invitations will remain unreturned or never materialise.
>The
>fact that PDOIS has been invited to a UDP rally and declined it and
>wilfilly
>reports it in its political organ, Foroyaa, does it no favours.
>PDOIS/Foroyaa
>also does itself no favours if it willing to sulk rather than proactively
>engage its Opposition colleagues in what could be the beginning of a
>fruitful
>cooperation. For instance, if the UDP invites it to join it in a rally,
>PDOIS
>ought to accept the invitation and use it as a basis to explore ways in
>which
>it can stamp out misconceptions, mistrusts and misunderstanding that
>continue
>to stand between the different parties. Likewise, to see how cooperative
>the
>UDP is, PDOIS then can return the UDP's compliments by inviting the UDP to
>join it in a similar forum. That way, we are no longer talking about
>parties
>communicating through third parties; rather, we are beginning to see a
>whole
>new mechanism that would greatly help foster common understanding on the
>way
>ahead. The collective interest and or spirit is neither served by column
>inches of regurgitated APRC rumours or inferring from these rumours grossly
>erroneous stuff about Opposition players and consituents. Mistrusts and
>misunderstandings feed from such a parlous way of comminucation. And most
>definitely not the prudent way to build common bridges to cooperate.
>
>Foroyaa also lamented that to this day, an agenda or a framework has yet to
>be worked out to form the basis for an Opposition Alliance. Again, PDOIS
>should not whine or sulk but seize the initiate and proactively come up
>with
>an agenda which it can publicly propose to the other parties. That way,
>PDOIS
>would be at the forefront of Opposition thinking and would not be reduced
>to
>chipping sulkily at what others have publicly tabled for the Opposition
>Alliance. PDOIS has the intellectual muscle to come up with a programme
>that
>it feels would be the correct basis with which the minimalist programme it
>favours is workable and acceptable for all parties to publicly consider for
>endorsement as a framework for an Opposition Alliance. If PDOIS cannot do
>this, then it makes the task of cooperation no easier if all it could come
>up
>with is to sulk about what others are doing or not doing? What is PDOIS
>practically doing to move forward the Opposition Alliance? Instead of
>reducing the columns of Foroyaa into a recycling factory of APRC lies,
>disinformations and rumours, these are the intellectual arguments that
>Foroyaa ought to be busying itself with.
>
>Foroyaa was very right to point out that: "The Opposition Must Not Be
>Indecisive
>The Price Of Indecisiveness Is A Weakened Opposition" If Foroyaa believes
>in
>its own wiseacres, it was not helping matters either by engaging in
>intriguing but self-defeatist intellectual arguments or speculations about
>non-existent Opposition plots or conspiracies. If Foroyaa strongly believes
>in its own wiseacres, it would have by now published an Opposition Alliance
>framework paper which can form the basis of mutual cooperation between all
>the Opposition parties genuinely interested in the democratic health and
>future of the country.
>
>All the best,
>
>Hamjatta Kanteh
>
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