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Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
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SunniPath, what about the ShiaPath? Most of us Sunnis and naturally forget
the existence and therefore the political rights of other muslims, like
Shias and Ahmadiyas. A case in point is the war in Iraq. The Sunnis
(minorities) were in power for most of our modern history and actively
oppressed the majority Shia and Kurds. Now the majority (Shias and
Kurds)are in power the Sunnis turn to terrorists killing innocent Shia
children and women. They accuse the west of atrocities against Muslims in
Iraq, even though the majority of the people are being killed by Sunni
Muslims.
My point is that slavery is against all that Islam stands for, the test:
Kul Huwa Alluhu Had! There is only one God! Slave and master is like God
and mankind, and therefore Sirk to say slavery is allowed but regulated in
Islam.


















> Hello, I've posted a couple of answers regarding Islam and slavery.
> If you don't find the answers unpallitable to you, or not to your
> liking, take it up with the people who run www.sunnipath.com, which is
> where I got the answers from.  If you find the Islamic position not
> good enough for you, to the extent that you begin to question your
> faith as a Muslim, then, as I said before when the topic of racism and
> Arabs ( notice I didn't say Muslims ), came up, no one is compelling
> you to be a Muslim.  If Islam's position on certain issues causes you
> so much pain, then either adopt another religion, or no religion at
> all.  Whatever you wish.  The Quran, in fact, does state that there is
> no compulsion in religion.  So no one is forcing you to be a Muslim.
>
>      At any rate, you're not going to force me into another argument
> by asking seemingly pointed questions about slavery and Islam, yet
> when Christianity is brought up, you don't even want to address that.
> .
>
>      Whether we like it or not, slavery has been a part of human
> history, in one form or another.  That's just how it is.  It's just a
> painful truth that I'm not going to deny.  And yes, slavery still
> exists today, in many different forms,
> the BBC even did a documentary series about slavery in the modern
> world or something like that.  You might still be able to find it on
> the BBC World Service site, via the documentary archive.
>
>      As far as the Quran's stance on slavery, no it doesn't outright
> condemn it, but neither does the Bible to my recollection.  So as I
> said, if Islam's stance on a particular issue causes you so much
> trouble, then find another path...
>
>      That's all I have to say on this issue, if you have any other
> questions, go to SunniPath and ask them.  I'm not going to sit here
> and again make a total fool out of myself, as I've already done, or
> have another "mental breakdown", as some have termed it, because I
> allow people to bully me, or get under my skin, or make me angry!
> Because if I allow anyone to do that to me, then I'm going to say
> something else that I'm going to regret, which is said out of anger
> and not reflective of my true positions.
>
> Ginny
>
>
> On 7/30/05, Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Well great, but I have no idea whether or not slavery is condemned in
>> the
>> Holy Bible. But I would rather worry about Islam as of now. Not
>> Christianity.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sidibeh
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ginny Quick" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question - Islam, Slavery
>>
>>
>> > hello, I'll try to see what I can find...  While we're on the subject,
>> > is there anywhere in the Bible where slavery is condemned as an
>> > abomination and an ungodly act?
>> >
>> >     I know I read some articles regarding slavery and Islam, but I
>> > need to find them again.  I'll see what I can find.
>> >
>> > Ginny
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/30/05, Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Indeed, I am also Mulsim you know...well, at any rate I tend to think
>> of
>> >> myself as one eventhough I fail disastrously on the side of practice.
>> But
>> >> surely, that is a matter between me and Allah!?
>> >>
>> >> I have a simple question...(just beginning my summer holidays and a
>> lot
>> >> (sic!) of time suddenly on my hands). Can anyone tell me WHERE IN THE
>> >> HOLY
>> >> QURAN SLAVERY IS CONDEMNED OUTRIGHT as an abominable and ungodly
>> >> practice?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers to All of You...
>> >> Sidibeh
>> >>
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