Salaams,
>> >
>> > This is the whole story of the quote if u want to read it.
>> >
>> > Why Science fails to explain God.
>> >
>> > "Professing to be wise, they became fools . . .. "
>> > "LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with God."
>> >
>> > An atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and
>> > then asks one of his new students to stand.
>> > "You're a Muslim, aren't you, son?"
>> > "Yes, sir."
>> > "So you believe in God?"
>> > "Absolutely."
>> > "Is God good?"
>> > "Sure! God's good."
>> > "Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
>> > "Yes."
>> > "Are you good or evil?"
>> > "The Koran says I'm evil."
>> >
>> > The professor grins knowingly. "Ahh! THE KORAN!" He considers for
>> > a moment.
>> > "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and
>> > you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? "Would you try?"
>> > "Yes sir, I would."
>> > "So you're good...!"
>> > "I wouldn't say that."
>> > "Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you
>> > could...in fact most of us would if we could... God doesn't.
>> > [No answer]
>> > "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Muslim who died of cancer
>> > even though he prayed to God to heal him. How is this God good?
>> > Hmmm?
>> > Can you answer that one?"
>> > [No answer]
>> >
>> > The elderly man is sympathetic. "No, you can't, can you?"
>> > He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the
>> > student time to relax. In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new
>> > ones.
>> > "Let's start again, young fella." "Is God good?"
>> > "Er... Yes."
>> > "Is Satan good?"
>> > "No."
>> > "Where does Satan come from?" The student falters.
>> > "From... God..."
>> > "That's right. God made Satan, didn't he?" The elderly man runs
>> > his bony fingers through his thinning hair and turns to the smirking,
>> > student audience.
>> > "I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies
>> > and gentlemen."
>> >
>> > He turns back to the Muslim. "Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
>> > world?"
>> > "Yes, sir."
>> > "Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything?"
>> > "Yes."
>> > "Who created evil?
>> > [No answer]
>> > "Is there sickness in this world? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
>> > All the terrible things - do they exist in this world? "
>> > The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
>> > "Who created them? "
>> > [No answer]
>> > The professor suddenly shouts at his student. "WHO CREATED THEM?
>> > TELL ME,PLEASE!
>> > The professor closes in for the kill and climbs into the Muslim's
>> > face. In a still small voice: "God created all evil, didn't He,
>> > son?"
>> > [No answer]
>> > The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails.
>> >
>> > Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom
>> > like an aging panther. The class is mesmerized.
>> > "Tell me," he continues, "How is it that this God is good if He
>> > created all evil throughout all time?"
>> > The professor swishes his arms around to encompass the wickedness
>> > of the world. "All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the
>> > torture,all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this
>>
>> > good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man?"
>> > [No answer]
>> > "Don't you see it all over the place? Huh?"
>> > Pause.
>> > "Don't you?" The professor leans into the student's face again and
>> > whispers, "Is God good?"
>> > [No answer]
>> >
>> > "Do you believe in God, son?"
>> > The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor. I
>> > do."
>> > The old man shakes his head sadly. "Science says you have five senses
>> > you use to identify and observe the world around you.Have you? "
>> > "No, sir. I've never seen Him."
>> > "Then tell us if you've ever heard your God?"
>> > "No, sir. I have not."
>> > "Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God or smelt your
>> > God...in fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God
>> > whatsoever?"
>> > [No answer]
>> > "Answer me, please."
>> > "No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
>> > "You're AFRAID... you haven't?"
>> > "No, sir."
>> > "Yet you still believe in him?"
>> > "...yes..."
>> > "That takes FAITH!" The professor smiles sagely at the underling.
>> > "According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable
>> > protocol,science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that,
>> > son?
>> > Where is your God now?"
>> > [The student doesn't answer]
>> > "Sit down, please."
>> > The Muslim sits...Defeated.
>> >
>> > Another Muslim raises his hand. "Professor, may I address the class?"
>> > The professor turns and smiles. "Ah, another Muslim in the vanguard!
>> > Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering."
>> > The Muslim looks around the room. "Some interesting points you are
>> > making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing
>> > as heat?"
>> > "Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
>> > "Is there such a thing as cold?"
>> > "Yes, son, there's cold too."
>> > "No, sir, there isn't."
>> > The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly goes very cold.
>> >
>> > The second Muslim continues. "You can have lots of heat, even more
>> > heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat
>> > but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit 458 degrees below
>> > zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is
>> > no
>> > such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than 458 -
>> You
>> >
>> > see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We
>>
>> > cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat
>> is
>> > energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
>> > Silence. A pin drops somewhere in the classroom.
>> >
>> > "Is there such a thing as darkness, professor?"
>> > "That's a dumb question, son. What is night if it isn't darkness? What
>> > are
>> > you getting at...?"
>> > "So you say there is such a thing as darkness?"
>> > "Yes..."
>> > "You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something, it is the absence
>> > of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
>> > flashing light but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and
>> > it's
>> > called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.
>> > In
>> > reality, Darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness
>>
>> > darker and give me a jar of it. Can you...give me a jar of darker
>> > darkness,professor?"
>> >
>> > Despite himself, the professor smiles at the young effrontery
>> > before him.This will indeed be a good semester. "Would you mind telling
>> us
>> >
>> > what your point is, young man?"
>> > "Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed
>> > to start with and so your conclusion must be in error...."
>> > The professor goes toxic. "Flawed...? How dare you...!""
>> > "Sir, may I explain what I mean?"
>> > The class is all ears.
>> > "Explain... oh, explain..." The professor makes an admirable effort
>> > to regain control. Suddenly he is affability itself. He waves his
>> > hand to silence the class, for the student to continue.
>> > "You are working on the premise of duality," the Muslim explains.
>> > "That for example there is life and then there's death; a good God
>> > and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,
>> > something we can measure. Sir, science cannot even explain a
>> > thought. It uses electricity and magnetism but has never seen, much less
>>
>> > fully understood them. To view death as the opposite of life is to be
>> > ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
>> Death
>> >
>> > is not the opposite of life, merely the absence of it."
>> >
>> > The young man holds up a newspaper he takes from the desk of a
>> > neighbor who has been reading it. "Here is one of the most disgusting
>> > tabloids this country hosts, professor. Is there such a thing as
>> > immorality?"
>> > "Of course there is, now look..."
>> > "Wrong again, sir. You see, immorality is merely the absence of
>> > morality. Is there such thing as injustice? No. Injustice is the
>> > absence of justice. Is there such a thing as evil?" The Muslim pauses.
>> > "Isn't evil the absence of good?"
>> > The professor's face has turned an alarming color. He is so angry
>> > he is temporarily speechless.
>> >
>> > The Muslim continues. "If there is evil in the world, professor,
>> > and we all agree there is, then God, if he exists, must be
>> > accomplishing a work through the agency of evil. What is that work, God
>> is
>> >
>> > accomplishing?
>> > The Quran tells us it is to see if each one of us will, of our own
>> > free will, choose good over evil."
>> > The professor bridles. "As a philosophical scientist, I don't view
>> > this matter as having anything to do with any choice; as a realist, I
>> > absolutely do not recognize the concept of God or any other
>> > theological factor as being part of the world equation because God is
>> not
>> > observable."
>> >
>> > "I would have thought that the absence of God's moral code in this
>> > world is probably one of the most observable phenomena going," the
>> > Muslim replies.
>> > "Newspapers make billions of dollars reporting it every week! Tell
>> > me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
>> > monkey?"
>> > "If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young
>> > man, yes, of course I do."
>> > "Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
>> > The professor makes a sucking sound with his teeth and gives his
>> > student a silent, stony stare.
>> >
>> > "Professor. Since no-one has ever observed the process of
>> > evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going
>>
>> > endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a
>> > scientist, but a priest?"
>> > "I'll overlook your impudence in the light of our philosophical
>> > discussion. Now, have you quite finished?" the professor hisses.
>> > "So you don't accept God's moral code to do what is righteous?"
>> > "I believe in what is - that's science!"
>> > "Ahh! SCIENCE!" the student's face splits into a grin.
>> > "Sir, you rightly state that science is the study of observed
>> > phenomena. Science too is a premise which is flawed.."
>> > SCIENCE IS FLAWED..?" the professor splutters.
>> > The class is in uproar.
>> >
>> > The Muslim remains standing until the commotion has subsided.
>> > "To continue the point you were making earlier to the other
>> > student, may I give you an example of what I mean?" The professor wisely
>>
>> > keeps silent.
>> > The Muslim looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class
>> > who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out in
>> > laughter. The Muslim points towards his elderly, crumbling tutor.
>> > "Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain...
>> > felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?"
>> > No one appears to have done so. The Muslim shakes his head sadly.
>> > "It appears no-one here has had any sensory perception of the
>> > professor's brain whatsoever. Well, according to the rules of
>> > empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science, I DECLARE that the
>> > professor has no brain."
>> > The class is in chaos.
>> >
>> > The Muslim sits... Because that is what a chair is for.
>
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