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> Bahs wrote:
>
> > Inga,
> > Please can I have Alhagi's telephone number. I misplaced the one I had from
> > him. I will talk to Alhagi personally.
> > Adama.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: Taking Stock
> >
> > >Hi Hamjatta!
> > > There is a typing omission in my previous mail. A
> > >sentence in paragraph 3 should read: "Even though the political option is
> > >not the panacea to The Gambia's ills or some might even argue a likely
> > >solution given Yaya's behaviour ..." Thanks and sorry for forgetting to
> > >sign the earlier posting.
> > >
> > >Buharry.
> > >----- Original
> > >Message -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -
> > >--------------------
> > >From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 4:17 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Taking Stock
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Hamjatta!
> > > When you wrote "over to you gentlemen", I assumed as one
> > >of those who has recently praised Halifa and co. that your invitation
> > >included me. Before going to the issues you raised, I don't think there is
> > >anything wrong with expressing one's appreciation of the personalities
> > >behind PDOIS and the personal sacrifices they have made for our country.
> > >That is a prerogative we are within our rights to enjoy. I for one am truly
> > >impressed by Halifa and co. and I take pride in making it known. In fact,
> > >you impress me and I have made it known on a number of occasions on this
> > >list and the first time I made it known was during your first debate with
> > >none other than Halifa. I had and still have the prerogative to declare
> > that
> > >Halifa, you and anyone else impress me. Declaring such is in my opinion a
> > >better alternative to what we have seen lately on the L.
> > >
> > > That aside, you wrote: "Indeed, writer after writer merely
> > >stresses the point the Geat Leader, Halifa himself, makes in his missives
> > to
> > >the Jammeh since the April murders. They claim there is no credible
> > >alternative to the Great Leader sitting in his Churchill's Town HQs penning
> > >letters which implore the dictator to have a rethink on his strangle hold
> > on
> > >the Gambian people and advocating that elections [even if as their
> > >deliverance are being muddled by throw-away threats by the gov't which cast
> > >question marks over them ever taking place] and the political process are
> > t!
> > >he only viable options existing to the Gambian people to deal with Jammeh."
> > >
> > > Maybe other writers claimed that there is no other option to Halifa
> > >penning letters. I can therefore not comment on that because I don't agree
> > >with the statement. As to whether the political process is the only viable
> > >option, I feel that the political process coupled with continuous internal
> > >and external pressure is a much better alternative than the repeated calls
> > >for violent means of bringing about change. Whereas change that is brought
> > >about politically can offer tested leaders who have had a chance to explain
> > >their policies and programs to the people, change that is brought about by
> > >violent and sudden means offers a Russian roulette alternative. It is
> > >granted that there is a possibility that such a change of government can be
> > >effectively and efficiently executed without loss of life and destruction
> > of
> > >property and that such a change can produce a leader who has the interests
> > >of the nation at heart. However, the dangers associated with that method
> > are
> > >plenty and cannot be ignored. Something can always go wrong even with the
> > >most carefully planned operation and the result can be devastating for our
> > >country. Another risk, given that the people executing such operations can
> > >be any Tom, Dick or Harry, is that we might have someone who is worse than
> > >Yaya. Much, much, much worse. What do we do then? Pray that someone else
> > >violently removes him? Isn't that akin to creating a coup industry whereby
> > >anyone with guts and the blessings of a marabout can attempt to overthrow a
> > >government? What are the implications of such an industry on the stability
> > >and security of our country? Another risk is that people propagating for a
> > >violent change of government might be doing so out of a wish to revenge
> > >personal wrongs meted out by the government or by Yaya. Instead of
> > "praying"
> > >Yaya to "Tan" (just joking) and getting on with it, they might use the
> > >Gambian people as pawns in an endeavour that could go wrong with horrendous
> > >consequences. What would happen if such people succeed? Would they kill and
> > >imprison everyone associated with Yaya? Is that good for the continuity of
> > >our country as a viable entity? Even though the political option is not the
> > >panacea to The Gambia's ills or even a likely solution, the risks
> > associated
> > >with the violent option are many. (On a less related note, acquire IP
> > >tracing software and trace some of the IP addresses of some of the people
> > >propagating violent change in The Gambia and claiming to be in The Gambia,
> > >"on the ground", "in the this" or "in the that" and you'll be really
> > >surprised when you see some writing from Russia, England, US etc.)
> > >
> > > You also wrote: "If as these Alumni of PDOIS/Foroyaa are
> > >gloating about the success or inevitability of success of the strategy of
> > >their party, surely it's about time one takes them to task and ask them to
> > >empirically state how the aforesaid strategy has made any concrete
> > >difference since the gruesome murders of April 10 and 11. It is time we ask
> > >ourselves what is working or practically workable as we struggle with the
> > >dictator."
> > >
> > > It is empirically impossible to measure whether PDOIS' strategy
> > >vis-à-vis the April massacre has had some effect just as it is empirically
> > >impossible to determine if it didn't have an effect. Why? Because even if
> > >one were to institute a study, the available variables would render coming
> > >to a conclusion practically impossible due to, among other reasons, the
> > >multi-pronged reaction and handling of the massacre. That aside, one can
> > see
> > >that the total and universal condemnation, including but not limited to
> > >PDOIS' approach, has had an effect no matter how small. Yaya could have
> > >reacted when he came back from Cuba in his usual fashion and picked up the
> > >line of his officials, which so infuriated the Gambian people. He didn't. A
> > >commission was instituted. That also is an indication of the effect the
> > >pressures had. The Government's fear in releasing the Coroner's Report also
> > >indicates a fear of the reaction of the people assuming that the report is
> > >damning. I am not saying that all this is the panacea to the issue of the
> > >April massacre. It might even be counter-productive to the desire to get to
> > >the truth but at least giving in to the pressures levied by among others,
> > >PDOIS, is an indication of the effect that penning letters at Churchill's
> > >Town or strongly condemning brutal acts from Oxford can have. The letters
> > of
> > >PDOIS and the actions of others made it possible for the ban on the UDP to
> > >hold rallies to be lifted. That also is testimony, no matter how small,
> > that
> > >the PDOIS strategy is having an effect.
> > >
> > > On the issue of the political parties staging civil
> > disobedience
> > >measures, maybe all the political parties can give you an answer. I
> > >personally respect the decisions of the parties to either engage in such or
> > >not, given that they are more in tune with the realities on the ground than
> > >I am. I respect the fact that such a move is a strategic one that has to
> > >consider timing,practicability, risk not only to one's self but also to
> > >supporters, resources and a host of other variables and has to be done
> > after
> > >the parties feel that they do not have any other option. Whilst I can see
> > >the benefits of such a move, I can also see risks involved which include
> > >giving Yaya the opportunity to declare a state of emergency, rounding up
> > all
> > >the political leaders and indefinitely postponing the elections. It has
> > >happened in other countries.
> > >
> > > Hamjatta, I have tried to deal with the issues you raised. I however
> > >have some questions for you if you don't mind, given that you wrote: "It is
> > >time we ask ourselves what is working or practically workable as we
> > struggle
> > >with the dictator." The questions are:
> > >
> > > 1.. What has been your strategy since the April massacre as a concerned
> > >citizen to ensure that justice is served?
> > > 2.. How is it different from PDOIS'?
> > > 3.. How have you implemented the strategy or how do you intend to
> > >implement the strategy?
> > > 4.. Can you guarantee or at least gauge whether the results of your
> > >strategy will have a higher success rate than PDOIS'?
> > > 5.. What do you base such predictions or pronouncements on?
> > > 6.. What alternative approach can you proffer to deal with the current
> > >political impasse in The Gambia given that PDOIS' approach is not, in your
> > >opinion, working?
> > > 7.. How do you intend to institute your alternative?
> > > 8.. What do you expect PDOIS and the other political parties to do in the
> > >meantime?
> > > 9.. Given that you feel that the political process is not a workable
> > >alternative, do you believe that the only available or workable option
> > would
> > >be a violent overthrow of the Government?
> > > 10.. When? What if that is not possible in the next one, two, five, ten
> > >years?
> > > 11.. Should the political parties stop all operations and wait for the
> > >alternative you propose or do you believe that they are obliged under the
> > >Constitution of The Gambia and their own to propagate by lawful means their
> > >beliefs?
> > > Sorry for the long list of questions. Anyway, The Gambia is in a
> > >quagmire and I don't think that PDOIS or their supporters claim to have the
> > >universal remedy for the country's woes. What they claim is to have small
> > >steps which are pursued through pressure be it in the form of letters or
> > >otherwise. PDOIS and their supporters are however not the only people to
> > >have a claim to The Gambia. If the other stakeholders, in the form of
> > >political parties and concerned citizens, contribute in their small ways a
> > >cure will eventually be found when all adds up. Thank you and have a good
> > >evening.
> > >
> > >
> > >Buharry.
> > >
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