You are not talking to an idiot. I once read a short history of the Sudan.
There is a history of migrations. What's stopping Mugabe ?
>
> From: Kabir <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/04/06 fr AM 02:22:37 CEST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 獻ne: Re: Zimbabwe
>
> Are you serious? You think I give a damn who you are related to, whose
> company you keep or what books you have read? What use is your familiarity
> with colonial history or the books you have read when you cannot get a point
> as simple as honouring an agreement signed at the dawn of independence to
> return stolen land?
>
> Keep on googling... At the end of the day if you haven't learnt better than
> to take the side of a double-crossing thief you would not have come far.
>
> To disregard the fact that thousand of families are suffering daily because
> the economically powerful relatives of the thief gang up and demand that
> unless the thief retains the stolen property they will strangulate their
> small economy and make them continue to catch hell.
>
> To disregard that fact that when the aggrieved party, after decades of
> suffering they could tolerate no longer, mobilized to fight against their
> oppressor thieves, got an agreement from the thieves and their relatives
> that the stolen property will be returned only to be nakedly and shamelessly
> double-crossed.
>
> To side with the thief when a fight ensues over returning the stolen
> property - a fight in the the thief is far more well-off than the victim and
> does not even need the stolen property for his continued survival - but
> continue to highlight and trumpet the fact that agents of the thieves have
> been dealt broken noses and bruises.
>
> When you cannot see beyond the broken noses and bruises and ask why the
> parties are fighting in the first place, or when you are told why they are
> fighting you elect to ignore the facts of history and bury your head in the
> sand because for one reason or another you cannot fathom why Black people
> would stand up for their rights, especially against Europeans.
>
> That to me is to say that Black people are not equal or don't deserve the
> same rights and treatment as all other people; that Black people should just
> let Europeans continue to control their economies and be content with
> whatever crumbs come their way.
>
> If that is your justification for labelling me "Black Radical" you must be
> the most clueless Black man that ever lived. Googling "Kabir" won't help
> you; googling "Mugabe" won't help you either. Nor will highlighting all the
> symptoms of the Zimbabwe crisis. Get to the bottom of the issue, the Land
> Issue for which Zimbabweans shed their blood only for your idols to pull
> this big double-cross that they have been making attempts for years to
> camouflage with lies and deception.
>
> That is what I am interested in. Robert Mugabe is just and individual. It is
> the policies that he stands for that I support, it could have been any other
> Zimbabwean for that matter. As far as they continue to demand the stolen
> land back we are on the same page Your ilk have been so blinded by Western
> progagand that you cannot see beyond the person of Mugabe at the bigger
> picture: the rights of Zimbabweans to regain land that was stolen at gun
> point; daylight robbery!
>
> You can go to all the higher institutions of learning in the world, at the
> end of the day if what you have learnt does not avail you the wherewithal to
> recocnise injustice it would all have been in vain, naught!
>
> So save yourself the trouble "Mr Hemelberg," for I don't see what you could
> possibly come with to defend this indefensible act of deceit and betrayal.
> The very reason you have been avoiding the point at the centre of this whole
> saga, the land issue is that the land thieves and those fighting their
> battles in all the international stage have not given you a plausible
> justification to argue with. So unless you address the land issue I'm not
> going to waste my time engaging you, for whatever you may come with I can
> get from the source, your masters!
>
> Kabir.
>
>
>
> On 4/6/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kabir,
> >
> > http://www.statehouse.gm/tijankabbah-visit_030407.htm
> >
> > http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20055173.shtml
> >
> > I will give you the attention that you deserve, but right now, I'm
> > otherwise
> > engaged. I am familiar with (African )colonial history in some
> > depth: India,
> > North America, Australia, Algeria, Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Congo,
> > Nigeria, Guinea, of course Zimbabwe, you name it and people like Walter
> > Rodney and even the type of ideas that you are likely to find in the Race
> > and
> > History website. Apart from that I have kept the company of some of these
> > people. So please excuse me for the next couple of hours and ? respect -
> > let
> > me return to give you the answer that should engage you, so that although
> > you may be Sir Mr. Black Radical, I won't let you down.
> > My second brother (I have three) is married to a Zimbabwean whose mother
> > is
> > Boer from South Africa and whose father is Black and from Zimbabwe.
> >
> > http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/
> >
> > Later.
> >
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