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Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:24:38 +0200
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Yero,
This is the typical habits of your party members. When they are asked simple
questions, they will start beating about the bush to escape the questions. You
are very lucky to win another fives years, with the most cheapest ride on earth.
Good luck! I want to tell you , that insulting people is not my style, so you
better start questioning your party members to tell you who i am. You can turn
to any of your members, because they know me very well. Regarding my
relationship with the late Alh. Abou Khan, you cannot put words into my mouth,
but i will advise you to go and talk to Ya Yamundow Ceesay to tell you our
relationship with that family. Alpha, Omar, Baba, Ebou, Amadou, Mata and the
rest of the family know me very well, so those people will never listen to these
nonsenses you are saying here. You can just continue WORSHIPPING Yaya Jammeh,
the day will come when God will prove to all of you, that HE is to be worshipped
and not your fellow humanbeing. You should tell Yaya the truth! If your party
believes they won a clean and decent elections, why attacking and arresting the
loosers? I think he should have been more comfortable, with the huge majority of
Gambian support he is enjoying, and not to continue harrassing / intimidating
them. Don`t Amadou Lowe, Dodou Jome etc. you mentioned have their rights to
against the AFPRC ? You people should step down from your horses and treat the
Gambian people fairly. No situation is permanent!
I would be very grateful, if you can change the heading of our discussion,
because i am living in a civilize democratic society, where people respect the
rights of a humanbeing not to insult / intimidate / kill / maim them. I have
European friends who read our mails, and it would be very disgraceful to me, if
they read such a heading. So please do me that favour!
Elhajj.

Ps.
Now that you won the election, could you kindly uncover your "Jango name ". I am
a typical "Serrer" i will never use a "Jango name". What are you afraid of ?


YERO MAMA skrev:

> My question in respect of the ministerial post was thus:
>
> What would have happened to any jokadu/niumi son or daughter! if people like
> you had to become ministers of interior or health? If that Alhaji Mustafa
> Fye who was POURING ON THIS L the best of eulogies towards Pa Abou khan can
> turn around and push a dirty blame on the late oldman's district,then
> politics can turn some of our hounourable ones to serfs at the farthest!
>
> Quoting Amadou Lowe,Dudu Jome etc, can bring back an old wound were
> Dr.MOMODOU S K MANNEH may face more challenges Mr.Fye Birom! Mr! my quick
> response wasn't based on guilt it was based on seperating husk from basmati
> rice!
> You can think of all the fula tactics you have been witnessing there but
> always remember that Kuntaya or Saareh Kunta used to receive the "seven"
> boys from Banjul and our village's role was to instill discipline in them.If
> you are really the Banjul-Jokadu "loumo" and "katsambaar" businessman you
> are claiming to be,then i would refer you to Omar Ndow at Gamtel.
>
> With all indications,you are implying that people like me are so young to
> know your likes that much,but Omar can be your agemate to tell you more on
> that district you are accusing.Mr.Fye do not think that you can blackmail
> the history of certain decent folk with whirling and blind accusations.
>
> Bour sine and Bour Saloum ruled up to those plains where me and you are
> calling jokadu,Niumi today...stretching to Kaur and beyond!
> So the "Senegalaisement" or "gambiennement" feelings cannot be seperated by
> you Fye Birom either.
> Thank god that you have been pinned to accept that such "birth certificate
> black markets" didn't start during our time(ie:APRC).
>
> Mr.Fye do you know about what other countries call economic citizens? Ask
> the Canadians,Granada and so on?
> SO if i were to help our system get citizens to vote i would have got loads
> from other nationals who can give us both the money and the votes! But thats
> for the PPP because they know about it thats why its being used as a last
> tool by trying to discredit the new guard.
> You are lost as far as political blackmailing is concerned,its only the poor
> Jokadunkas that your likes can choose as prey.Unfortunately Mr.Fye "Demba na
> gaaye deh".
>
> Mr.Fye if you know the N'dungu kebbeh "loumous",thats fine for those who do
> not.I know that one of Farafeni,Nyaanga Bantang,Kaur,Dingiraaye,Keur
> Patteh(Baddibu) and so on.Mr.FYE if "loumos" are birth certificate printing
> machines then there were a lot of them in the Gambia before a lot of us went
> to face a blackboard!
>
> Mr.Fye in as much as we want to offend some and impress the rest lets not
> become vicious and callous!
> By the way the Amadou Lowe you named was few weeks ago, campaigning for the
> UDP/PPP/GPP coalition! Ha! Hope Fye Birom you didn't pass the tactics you
> learnt from those Jokadunkas to Lowe's batch?
> Another thing bro is that,NOT ALL NIUMINKAS AND JOKADUNKAS VOTED FRO YAHYA.
>
> Please drop your regionalistic feelings and be real! I am neither defending
> the APRC nor my folk witin herds of cattle,instead i am calling your
> attention to realism!
>
> YERO.
>
> "YEROMAMA PULORI GALO HAAWA BAROGEL N'DIMOU"
> "Speak the speeches and let the speeches not spit you."
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Subject: Re: PB certificates JOKADU and NIUMI scape goats or justification?
> >Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:53:00 +0200
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> >Yero,
> >You were very quick to stand on the defence. Are you admitting that you
> >have
> >registered many foreigners in Banjul? This was not an easy thing during the
> >PPP
> >era, because the mother`s notification of birth MUST traced at the Medical
> >&
> >Health Dept. if you were born there. These dirty games started long time
> >before
> >your party emerged in the political scene, so i am not accusing your party
> >that
> >they started the game. I hope you have not added huge figures of registered
> >foreigners. Regarding my reference to the Niumis and the Jokadu, i am 100%
> >sure
> >of what i have said. I was bringing containers in the early 90s and was
> >selling
> >most ogf my goods in the Niumis, Jokadu and in Senegal, so i got a very
> >good
> >interaction with people around these areas. I was not missing the black
> >market "
> >Loumohs " at Fass Njaga Choye, Kerr Jane and Ndungu Kebbeh to sell my
> >goods, so
> >people know me and i know them. I have nothing against a Jokadu or Niumi
> >son
> >handling the ministerial posts of  Health or Interior. Every Samba, Kumba,
> >Demba, Saburu, Bicenty, Pateh, Pascal, Opaah and Apaye holds most of our
> >important positions today, why not the good sons of Niumi? Before i last
> >left
> >the Gambia in 1995, i remember there were so many Senegalease fishermen
> >"Chubaloh" from Barra to Albreda to Jokadu. I hope you did not register
> >them
> >just to get the victory you needed. The figures in the Niumis and Jokadu is
> >huge
> >in my eyes or maybe there was a huge migration to these places after i left
> >the
> >Gambia. If you turn to Amadou Lowe of Kerr Jarga Jobe or the people of
> >Kuntaya,
> >they will tell you that i know there very well. You should thank God, you
> >helped
> >Yaya to get victory, by doing your " Fula games " without getting a single
> >"
> >Serrer " on the road to block them. I am sure you are preparing more " Fula
> >games " Good luck !
> >Elhajj
> >
> >YERO MAMA skrev:
> >
> > > Wow! thats the best bet i was waiting for on this forum!Jokadu being
> >tainted
> > > with fallacies! If Jokadu and Niumi can be shown as examples of
> >harbouring
> > > such "supposedly birth certificate deals" how about the "birth
> >certificate"
> > > black market that was uncovered by then Sgt.Baboucarr Sey at
> >Dippakunda?!
> > > That caused the sgt's transfer to Ndungu Kebbeh! He made friends and
> >enemies
> > > there but still it was relating to him arresting Gambian farmers who
> >were
> > > smuggling their gnuts to Senegal.Friend and jokadu attacker! Baboucarr
> >was
> > > not serving under Jammeh at that time this was in the late eighties and
> > > early nineties! Ask around you will know where i am coming from.
> > > The clique that hit Baboucarr and caused his transfer had more power in
> > > Basse than in Jokadu and Niumi.
> > > So that apart how about a Banjulian that  my own team arrested for
> > > fraudulently trying to obtain a passport for  a Senegalese tailor?!
> > > Mister if we revisit even the recent history of the Gambia and embark on
> > > authenticating birth certificates etc i believe you will have a ship
> >load in
> > > the capital and environs before reaching the provinces.
> > > O!GAMBIAL! Should i put wax on my ears or blind-fold my eyes?!
> > > This is one of the most irresponsible sentences that i have ever read
> >here.
> > > Now how comfortable would a Jokadu and Niumi son  have been if such
> >people
> > > were to become our minister's of interior or health?name it!
> > > I hope so regionalism isn't playing a part here.I do also hope so i
> >won't be
> > > branded as an "inferiority-complexed-stooge" "Haha...taaye ma rey!"
> > > I hope so that it is not these jOkadunka and Niuminka experts who had
> >opened
> > > up files against me in the past?
> > >
> > > You see it will take a long time before some of you can appreciate
> >debating
> > > with my likes 'cause truth is absent and  some believe that it is
> >present in
> > > this forum.
> > >
> > > Please do not justify wrong through regionalism! Any shortcoming be it
> > > administrative or otherwise starts from Banjul itself.No Jokadunka or
> > > Niuminka knows the  way to the printing dept better than those who were
> > > playing "n'jalbi n'jalaano" at KG five!
> > > Good bye and am awaiting more insults 'cause thats the weapon for the
> >hidden
> > > commandos.So easy to be brave on Gambia l though!
> > > YEROMAMA.
> > >
> > > "YEROMAMA PULORI GALO HAAWA BAROGEL N'DIMOU"
> > > "Speak the speeches and let the speeches not spit you."
> > >
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