>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Credibility
>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:31:29 +0000
>
>Brime,
>
>All the philosophising aside, how much mobilising have you been doing "to
>come together positively and influence the masses and the rest will
>follow".?!?
>
>"Influence the MASSES and the REST will follow"? Who are the rest?
>
>Anyway, someone who has spent all his spare time trying to mobilise is
>accused without any justifiable cause of being a spy for the the very
>regime that has brought the living hell into Gambians' lives. When the
>person who brought forward those preposterous accusations has not hidden
>his political ambitions I think you should have been more irked by his
>statements than that of someone who has never exhibited any political
>ambitions.
>
>If you are sitting on all this knowledge about political mobilasation why
>are you not on the forefront of the campaign for a better Gambia? Is it
>because of the Gambia of today is ideal according to you?
>
>I think your advice is directed at the wrong audience; barely a week ago
>The President of the Republic of The Gambia was talking rudely to and
>threatening Gambian elders and sending death threats to others. Did I ever
>hear you condemn Jammeh on any issue?
>
>Yet when Joe calls someone who has lied about him a liar you suddenly
>become philosophical? Geez, Gambians!
>
>Kabir.
>
>
>
>ecka <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Hi folks,
>As we look at those things within our circle of concern, it becomes
>apparent
>that there are somethings over which we have no real control and others
>that
>we can do something about. Proactive people focus their efforts in the
>circle of influence,they work on things they can do something about and the
>nature of their energy is positive,enlarging and magnifying causing their
>circle of influence to increase. This is what is required of gentle people
>who want to lead The Gambia in the future. On the other hand, reactive
>people focus their efforts on the weaknesses of other people and
>circumstances in which they have no control.Their focus results in blaming
>and accusing attitudes , reactive language, and increased feelings of
>victimization.Which way do we have to take if we have the interest of the
>Gambia at heart? Convince the Gambian populace sincerely or being
>borderline
>mouthy from abroad and cause choas in the Gambia.Some people here are very
>reactive and I know that they are cowards with big words.If there is to be
>change in the Gambia we need to come together positively and influence the
>masses and the rest will follow. Being disrecpectful and reactive does not
>hold the future of our country.
>Peace
>Brime
>
> >From: Joe Sambou
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:53:22 +0000
> >
> >Thanks Tunkareh! STGDP knows who you are and that is enough.
> >
> >Chi Jaama
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >>From: Lang Tunkara
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:38 +0000
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jabou:
> >>
> >>You wrote:
> >>
> >>"empty chatterboxes with a limited vocabulary that
> >>consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented
>by
> >>unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said characters
> >>having
> >>prevailed over anyone"
> >>
> >>You are absolutely right, and I think they should be ashamed of
> >>themselves. But the big question is, what the future holds for the
>Gambia
> >>if these folks, charaterise above, succeed in becoming part of an
> >>administration that replaces Jammeh? It is scary.
> >>
> >>Lamin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: [log in to unmask]
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >>Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:45:54 EST
> >> >
> >> >Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh,
> >> >
> >> >I was going to post these few words of mine this morning but an
> >>engagement
> >> >kept me away from my computer until now, and it is interesting that
> >>Jasseh
> >> >Conteh seems to have taken some of the words right out of my mouth.
> >> >
> >> >I wanted to ask you not to waste your valuable time trying to appeal
>to
> >> >those who demonstrate daily their lack of good judgement.
> >> >
> >> >Additionally, my comment is that only the simple minded can believe
> >>that
> >> >credibility is measured by such a short yardstick, and that it is
> >>only they who
> >> >mistake a refusal to engage empty chatterboxes with a limited
> >>vocabulary
> >>that
> >> >consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented
> >>by
> >> >unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said
>characters
> >>having
> >> >prevailed over anyone.
> >> >
> >> >I hope that you are having a good weekend over there in the UK.
> >> >
> >> >Sister Jabou Joh
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 11/11/2005 7:51:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >> >[log in to unmask] writes:
> >> >
> >> >Joe and Jassey Conteh, as long serving subscribe to Gambia discussion
> >>to
> >> >group on the net, I think what matters is to forget abut the past
> >>different from
> >> >the story about our humble
> >>sister. I have a lot respect about her, Joe and
> >> >Mr Conteh. We lived out side in Gambia and calling families and
>reading
> >>about
> >> >news makes us to determine that Gamboia come first. I am alway
> >>determine
> >>to
> >> >know that it is our bit and piece that can lead a way forward that I
> >>wanted to
> >> >challenge the Gambian diaspora in United Kingdom that we have to put
> >>our
> >> >house in order cause 2006 is near. We all near a way forward.please
> >>come
> >>me
> >> >brothers in Uk for a way forward and replicate the patriotic efforts
> >>our
> >>brother
> >> >ub U.SA. I know we can make a diffrence.
> >> >Contact
> >> >Home:-01618771939
> >> >
> >> >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> >Hmmmmmm! How convenient. Looks like someone missed the boat all
> >>together.
> >> >Interestingly, it is because of your fabrications of the past, the
> >>reason
> >> >why we have to ask folks to substantiate their claims against the
> >>innocent.
> >> >You lied here that I was a snitch for Yaya and ran for cover when
>folks
> >>ask
> >> >you to substantiate it. Today, whose integrety is in question? Yours
> >> >Conteh in case you forget. You have been proven to be a liar yourself
> >>so, I
> >> >am not surprised that you will not be interested to know whether in
> >>fact
> >>Mr.
> >> >Bah is framed because of what Alieu alleged. Do you think with you
>feet
> >>up
> >> >or what?
> >> >
> >> >Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa
> >>Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:54:00 -0500
> >> > >
> >> > >Mr. Sanyang:
> >> > >
> >> > > A code of professional conduct is indeed a venture for its members
> >> > >to consistently apply principles and standards the profession
> >>dictates. Pa
> >> > >Nderry M'Bye has a right to report, but he should do so with ethical
> >> > >values. After reading Mr. M'Bye's recent posting, I became concerned
> >>with
> >> > >his integrity and objectivity. Is Mr. M'Bye doing a disservice to
>his
> >> > >profession and the opposition?
> >> > >
> >> > > I searched every news outlet in the Gambia to verify Mr. M'Bye's
> >> > >narration. I could not find any source that collaborated his
>posting,
> >> > >except his own. Mr. M'Bye's
> >>narration and conclusion should be evaluated
> >> > >with caution. Was his posting fabricated? Talk is cheap, but one
> >>should
> >> > >consistently apply the principles and standards.
> >> > >
> >> > > As we move forward for a yahyaless Gambia, we must be willing to
> >> > >disagree with fellow comrades whose messages might be deterrent to
> >>our
> >> > >struggle. How could one openly threatened a dictator who has been
> >>known to
> >> > >use every effort in suppressing the opposition? Should we not
> >>advocate
> >>for
> >> > >a free and fair election thereby reaching the electorate that we
> >> > >desperately need? Why is it that the presidential election is going
> >>to
> >>be
> >> > >held on a different date? Do you know why? Because Jammeh would use
> >>every
> >> > >effort with his thugs to stay in power? Should we reach an agreement
> >>with
> >> > >the APRC government on the rule of conduct during the election?
> >>Does the
> >> > >opposition have willing and concerned external parties to monitor
>the
> >> > >elections? I believe we should address these issues before
> >>fabricating
> >> > >from afar.
> >> > >
> >> > > I commend you for your truthfulness regardless of your political
> >> > >doctirne.
> >> > >
> >> > >Naphiyo,
> >> > >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > >Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:34 PM
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card
> >>Sey
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe,
> >> > >I am not a spokes person for the Jammeh government. If you have any
> >> > >questions with regards to what they believe or what I report on the
> >>Bah
> >> > >case, I guess you are intelligent enough to know how to fetch for
> >> > >information.
> >> > >I am not sure if you are lying or the Jammeh government is lying.
>All
> >>that
> >> > >I know is that my sources are right.
> >> > >And again, it is your choice to believe in what you want to. I look
> >>forward
> >> > >to the day we as Gambians are not being blinded like you are to the
> >>truth.
> >> > >Did anyone prove here that what Mr. Nderry reported was true? Only
> >> > >Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts to question him. He never came back
> >>on
> >>this
> >> > >List to
> >>even explain. What did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
> >> > >So big guy, let us all be honest to ourselves if we have to be able
> >>to
> >>move
> >> > >our nation further. Let us all have our differences but still be
>able
> >>to
> >> > >accept that we have different ideas and believes withou calling
> >>anyone a
> >> > >liar.
> >> > >
> >> > >Alieu Sanyang.
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> > >Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence against
> >>NADD,
> >> > >like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by Saddam.
> >>Alieu,
> >> > >have you read the charges that the government you are proud of
>levied
> >> > >against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is correct? If
>you
> >> > >believe they are off
> >>track, then don't you think you should help them beef
> >> > >up those charges to include Last Card and exclude Bah? Looks like
> >>they
> >> > >missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells me that this is a
> >> > >phantom from both sides, for if you have this evidence, you
>certainly
> >> > >cannot
> >> > >allow an innocent person get railroaded, will you?
> >> > >
> >> > >Chi Jaama
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> > > >
> >> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > >Joe,
> >> > > >I am not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the
> >>integrity to
> >> > >ask
> >> > > >the guys who pulled the same stories against the Jammeh regime.
> >> > > >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It was not
>written
> >>for
> >> > >you
> >> > > >to judge either. Call it anything you want to.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> > > >Alieu, you have also made some serious allegations against Last
> >>Card
> >>and
> >> > >I
> >> > > >am interested in the substance of your allegations. Yaya said that
> >>NADD
> >> > > >gave Wade fake documents, which both you and I know to be a
> >>fabrication,
> >> >
> >> > >and
> >> > > >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to the
> >>Senegalese
> >> > > >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you present the
> >>evidence
> >> > > >you are refering to, to support you claims? I don't know your
> >>relation
> >> > >with
> >> > > >Yaya, but you can surely advise him about the rules of evidence,
>or
> >>is
> >> > >this
> >> > > >the same as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians
> >>about "Oil
> >> > >and
> >> > > >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is very serious and
> >>involves
> >> > > >the life of an innocent person, that you are morally required to
> >>show
> >> > >your
> >> > > >hand. Otherwise, I will just disregard it as "hear say".
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > >Chi Jaama
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Joe
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > > > >Subject: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18 -0800
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last Card Sey have seen their plot
> >>to
> >> > >breed
> >> > > > >blood between The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry, I think
> >>you
> >> > > >should
> >> > > > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be spreading news on
> >>this
> >> >
> >> >List
> >> > > > >that is not only inaccurate, but defamatory. You have been
> >>working
> >>so
> >> > > >hard
> >> > > > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your
> >>asylum case.
> >> > >This
> >> > > >is
> >> > > > >what I do not understand about we the Gambians. Anytime we have
> >>our
> >> > > > >interests to follow, we will go the extra mile to put our
> >>interests
> >> > >above
> >> > > > >our national interest.
> >> > > > >In your most recent lies, you said some folks have been
>arrested.
> >>I am
> >> > > >one
> >> > > > >the few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that there
> >>was no
> >> > > > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This
> >>speaks volumes
> >> > > > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all seen here.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >For Last Card Sey, it was shocking to learn that you are still
>in
> >> > > > >possession of Gambian government documents that you are
>selfishly
> >>using
> >> > > >to
> >> > > > >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was surprising
> >>to learn
> >> > > >that
> >> > > > >you have sent falsely signed documents to the Senegalese
> >>authorities to
> >> > > > >show they were coming from Gambian authorities. What I do not
> >> > >understand
> >> > > >as
> >> > > > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you? In fact,
> >>I got
> >> > > >from
> >> > >
> >> > >reliable sources that the recent Samba Bah case has to do with what
> >>you
> >> > > > >false signed as Mr. Bah. Having Gambian government staples and
> >> > > >misrepresent
> >> > > > >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government is not
> >> > >pursuing
> >> > > > >that from this end. You have been successfully using a lot of
> >>folks you
> >> > > > >come in contact with for your selfish interests against the
> >>Jammeh
> >> > > >regime.
> >> > > > >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being
> >>oppositions, but
> >> > >there
> >> > > > >is so much and everything wrong with being anti-Gambia. Some of
> >>us
> >>even
> >> > > > >with other citizenship identities residing out side The
> >>Gambia do not
> >> > >go
> >> > > > >this far to promote our self interests.
> >> > > > >I think what this is all about tells us what kind of people
>folks
> >>like
> >> > > >you
> >> > > > >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and will not
> >> > >succeed
> >> > > >in
> >> > > > >being part of any government forever in The Gambia. What you are
> >>all
> >> > > >doing
> >> > > > >tell us how you will run your families and your country
> >>if opportunity
> >> > > >was
> >> > > > >given.
> >> > > > >What I will strongly suggest for some of these individuals you
> >>all
> >> > > >defamed
> >> > > > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal actions against
> >>you even
> >> > > >in
> >> > > > >The Gambia at your absence. I think if convicted, the government
> >>of the
> >> > > > >Gambia and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you to face
> >>the
> >> > > >music.
> >> > > > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop putting our
>national
> >> > > >interests
> >> > > > >behind our own.
> >> > > > >Good luck to you all.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Alieu Sanyang.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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