Jabou,
I may have recognized your dilemma. I think you read SHitown as Shitside. If
that is the problem, I now declare that you did not mean to tell a lie
against your brother in Islam. It was mere oversight. I therefore rescind
associating you with Munaafiqoon for it error and omission. I look forward eagerly to
your educating us if indeed I called the southside of Chicago another odious
name elsewhere. If indeed this was the only occasion that wrought the
mirage, I encourage you to look up the genesis of SHitown. It is only amicable
mention. Allahuma Aqfirlee, waliwaali Dayya, wa Jamee il muslimeen, wal
muslimaat. This was a strange oversight on your part Jabou. Quite unexpected. I am
very disappointed in that your mind will wander ever so driftingly as to innure
disdain for your brother. Miracles always happen. We should avoid the bad
miracles and hail the good ones. I will yield again until you share with us the
colour of my shortcoming because that word you attributed to me of southside
of chicago is one error I effort not to make in all the volumes of my
literature. It is an expensive and onerous error. Silence on it will not advance
community and conversations in graver matters. I therefore encourage you to be
grand like I always knew you to be.
Haruna,
I have to confess that you lost my interest when you delved into "Chicago
shitside" Chicago shitside?
Aren't you just a tad bit angry for a discussion that is supposed to help
you win friends and influence people on behalf of the candidate you profess to
support?
After reading your last response, I had a hard time trying to discern
whether yours was a personal anger towards Barack Obama because he was of mixed
race, attended Harvard and was president of the Harvard Law Review, or was a
community organizer in the South side of Chicago and failed to include all the
Ghettos in the United States in that effort and you think all of these are
supposed to be indictments against him or if your truly feel that the way to
promote Edwards was to drag his opponents in the gutter?
I guarantee you that if you ran your response by any camp of the Edwards
campaign, they would have asked you not to post it.
I have never seen John Edwards drag his opponents reputation or record in
the gutter because he is intelligent enough to know that this is hardly a way
to win votes and that people are sick and tired of this sort of senseless
tirades.
John Edwards speaks about how in his youth, he witnessed lawyers and judges
in his native South Carolina
stand up against racism during the civil rights era and how they risked
their lives and had to be escorted to work by Federal Marshalls and yet, they
kept on. He speaks of the admiration he had for these people standing up
against racism. He would not wonder if people would vote for Obama because he is of
mixed race.
Edwards may have sued insurance companies and won some judgements against
them, but that has not resulted in any changes that prevent insurance companies
finding loopholes to pay out claims. Just ask the victims of Katrina.
And the case for which Edwards won the largest judgement was for a family
whose child got her hair or was it a limb caught in the drainage system of a
swimming pool.
What supporters of the various candidates should concentrate on is to
present what their candidate can do for the people when elected so they can
convince voters that they are the right person and how they do t hat matters a great
deal. Engaging in maligning the other candidate as a strategy to win
supporters never works and tends to be symptomatic of some personal issue the those
who engage in it may have. Also, when supporters engage in the latter, they
become liabilities as opposed to being assets.
Take it easy Haruna, rage does not draw in people, it makes them head in
the opposite direction and it is bad for the heart. It is the people who will
have the last word.
Now, I shall leave you to it.
Jabou
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna/Jabou.
"Haruna," Jabou.
Yes Ma'am, hope all's well. Good to hear you again.
"Too long winded so I will be brief." Jabou.
I cannot for the life of me, believe mine own ears. Jabou? Dis-ease for
Long-windedness? As Rocco Mediate is wont to quip of Tiger, If there ever
were a
good time to die, I'm red to go. Jabou, I'm extremely sorry for my long
winds.
I will have been remiss were I not to have been comprehensive with your
queries of John Edwards. In addition, I intended to share other value-added
process for discernment.
I remmembered a good friend of mine, Corporate attorney Charles McClure
shared, "Haruna, our job is to discourage our clients' customers from
desiring
detail and comprehension without running roughshod to minimalist law. My
clients include Insurance Agencies and multi-national corporations". The
ones
who
seem to own just about everything Jabou. "And, when it comes to any
challenge
in courts of law, we encourage fellow corporate attorneys and judges, to
review the entire constitution, ammendments, and precedent law". I knew the
great
Charles was unto something. This is exactly the reason why John Edwards
chooses cases carefully for advocacy sakes. I enjoy your long winds from
Foroyaa
Jabou. I know you were being sarcastic but it struck me befuddled.
Now then.
"Just a few important points." Jabou.
Yes. Let'r Rip!
"Edwards fought corporate America on behalf of his clients as a litigation
attorney." Jabou.
Indeed. John Edwards challenged the parts of law that Insurance and drug
companies relied on to stifle claims for errors and omissions. Indeed.
Indeed.
John Edwards litigated profusely and with all his might, for his clients,
the
illiterate of law, the powerless to challenge wrongdoing, and in the
process,
he forced clarifications of hitherto un-interpreted law to yield precedent
that discouraged the culprit corporations and other from taking refuge in
ambiguity. I am sorry Jabou. Sometimes you must be long-winded to yield
value
context and comprehension. I am told long directional winds can be
harnessed
for
energy.
"When he won on behalf of those clients, he was paid very well for his
efforts." Jabou.
I would suppose so. Lawyers, like carpenters, doctors, masons, engineers,
and dishwashers, must receive value for effort and productivity. John
Edwards
did not choose to litigate just any infringement. The ones he chose to
litigate have national and constitutional dimensions. His remuneration came
from
whatever the judge determines is just penalty or compensation for victims
and
their advocate lawyer. The fees for lawyers are communicated to their
clients
prior to representation. They are normally a percentage of the settlement
or
penalty for corporate wrongdoing. Whether John Edwards was paid very well
or
not, is not terribly significant to me. Whatever he was paid, he invested
heavily in his foundations (the poverty center, One America, The Ninth ward
of
New Orleans, Carolina's poor and dispossessed. All while his wife Libby was
under doctor's care for terminal illness. Barak, like his wife, is an
accomplished lawyer. They chose to side with corporate interests that John
Edwards
serves notice to. Comparative values my dear.
"He did not offer his services gratis when he sued those corporations."
Jabou.
I should think not. Besides he has his wife's medical bills to pay and his
children to raise. Further, were he to have lost any of the cases, he will
not
have been compensated for his fees were reliant on his victory over evil
and
jurisprudent compensation therefrom. That is why John Edwards represented
the indigent and those of lesser means than his fees would require. He was
confident in the victory of good over evil, and he took enormous risks of
loss.
"Perhaps you can share with us the major changes that came about as a
result
of Edwards winning these lawsuits." Jabou.
I'm sorry I must be long to do your query justice my Jabou.
1. When we desire democracy, whose cardinal tenet is The rule of common
law, we desire that the common comprehends law that contains the rights and
privileges whose aversion by other should trigger judicious challenge. In a
society where there are some (possibly one partner to that law), who are
oblivious
to this rule of law and democracy indigents harp on about. That is where
the
need for lawyers comes in. They are the bedrock of due-diligence and
democracy. John Edwards being a lawyer, intrinsically accrues value to any
society
in which he practices.
2. Lawyers choose from several areas of practice. Not all lawyers choose
cases for advocacy for the indigent. John Edwards chose advocacy law. He is
valuable to democracy and equal justice under the law.
3. When John Edwards wins his cases, a precedent in law is established so
that no matter which of the contiguous United States including Hawaii that
are
partner to the constitution, may rely on such precedent. That assists in
discouraging fraudulent practice by rogue corporations who seem to own just
about
everything.
4. Jabou, you and I, though never among John Edwards' direct clientele, are
currently benefitting from John Edwards' legal victories. For the specific
laws and precedent, I refer you to the public records of John Edwards'
cases.
"Speaking of votes that have had a major impact on American lives, I would
say none top that list more than the Iraq war." Jabou.
How do you mean??? I beg to differ. I do agree that the senate of which
John
Edwards was a part, approved a military campaign to apprehend Saddam and
bring him to answer to charges of mass murder and belligerent foreboding.
Many
Iraquis, Iranians, and Kuwaitis lost their lives and liberties at the hand
of
Saddam. Perhaps I would agree with you that the campaign was badly
prosecuted. For which Edwards cannot be to blame. He saw fit however, to
apologise for
whatever part he may have played in the cantankerous prosecution of a
campaign of conscience. A Solid Human. I make no apologies for John Edwards.
"and Edwards voted for the war" Jabou.
John Edwards voted along with his coleagues to approve a military campaign
in Iraq. Not for the Iraq war we now witness. He is being magnanimous in
remorse of poor prosecution of the campaign. I would like John Edwards to
approve
a military campaign against me in that manner. And I will not require
apology
of him.
"and it has impacted American lives as well altered how America is viewed
by the World forever." Jabou.
Indeed. Anything America does, impacts on the lives of Americans and world
citizens in a big way. That is why circumspect and due-diligence is advised
in
prosecutions of campaigns.
"Haruna, your amazingly harsh rhetoric against Obama is bordering on the
"swift boat" strategy of the last elections." Jabou.
I am not familiar with the Swift Boat incident. I therefore do not consider
it in demarches. I am sorry you regard our exchange here as harsh rhetoric
against Obama for on mine own part, I know no personal cause to spurn at
him,
but for the general. Besides, in my effort to solicit support for John
Edwards, it will be utterly foolhardy to offend other, including Obama. You
and
I
must leave open, the prospect of future collaboration between John Edwards
and
Barack Obama. Here, we engage in studious discernments and recognition of
comparative values. I advice temperance toward John Edwards.
"you don't want the angry label being made against your candidate to be
true
for his supporters." Jabou.
Should the angry label be self-fulfilling against John Edwards, We will
invent commensurate compassion and understanding. We are children of
God/Allah.
Rabbil Aalameen.
"Enough of negative campaigning already! Another reason why Obama is a
breath of fresh air?" Jabou.
Indeed Obama is a breath of fresh air. John Edwards is Freshivating.
"Have a good weekend." Jabou.
Thank you my sister. As if Allah was aware of your prayer. I made merry and
produced value for other this weekend. I pray for your glorious sustenance
all weekends. Thank you for the prayer.
Your bestest brother, Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
"Haruna," Jabou.
Yes Darling, how are you. I like the way you speak and what you say
always.
You have an immensely powerful voice fertilized, as our friend Karim is
wont
to drammatize, by prolific study, acumen, and measured tone. Any candidate
would like to have your support. I'm not giving up on Ousman either. I love
him
very much. Just don't get any funny ideas Ousman.
"I do not know that what Edwards can represent to the American people is
not the same as what Obama will." Jabou.
I was under the same impressions too. Then I began a study of senators who
later run for President in a revolutionarily different way that reviews
marginal values. There is a wealth of information that when properly
reviewed
or
reviewed in the directions of questions one might have when making
marginal
distinction assessments, you will come away with a benign but discerning
conclusion. If you review the matters/bills that Clinton, Obama, and
Edwards
have
offered votes on in the senate, (not the ones Obama and Clinton
conveniently
absented themselves on for expediency sakes), you can draw important
demographic information from their affect on Americans, both in quantity
and
quality
that has brought me to the conclusion that Edwards is a more valuable
change to
more Americans than either Obama or Clinton. I had also come to the
conclusion that Obama will be a more valuable change to immigrant
Americans
than
either Edwards or Clinton, and that Clinton is the hungriest of them all
to
become President. Take a look at how many bills Obama and Clinton absented
themselves from voting on and find out what those bills are. Then look at
the
bills
all three voted on and you will notice that Edwards never absented himself
from voting on critical and significant matters as well as those matters
that
are politically inexpedient to vote on. A solid human.Let us know how
your
review looks like.
"Also, I do not think that there is any indication that Obama beileves in
religion as other than a moral compass." Jabou.
Probably not and I did not qualify Obama's belief in that realm. I shared
Edwards' belief in the realm.
Obama had recognized the value of religious congregations and the almost
complete patronage of evangelists by Republicans. Given his political
industriousness, he embarked on a campaign to wrest a slice of this section
of
society
from Republicans and rightly so. I happen to believe that you neither
court
nor discount the religious evangelist vote. You allow them to choose
without
giving the facade of their participation as a group in governance and
administration of the state. An active campaign to woo them trends too
closely
to
quid-pro-quo and if you do not deliver their perceived quid, they can
severely
malign your administration. Only a seasoned governor and policy-maker can
recognize these subtle flaws in character. Because as you know, the
evangelists
are active voters and they vote in order to skew public policy in favour
of
their religion. They do not hide their intentions and motives. It takes a
strong character to resist the temptation to maligned judgement. When you
ask
Obama, he frames his responses this way:
"We have to show America that Democrats too care about religion". That
statement itself says a lot about his dispensation. Jabou, I know that you
are a
devout muslim. Have you ever felt like you have to show me and Suntou and
Malanding how much you care about Islam? If you begin to run for President,
and
you then embark on an active campaign to show us how much you care about
Islam,
whether that is good or not, would it not give me pause in distinctions?
Our
friend Ousman shared that Obama fought for the downtrodden in the south
side
of Chicago. I will share more on this later but that southside vote was
what
gained Obama the state seat against an incumbent democrat, also African
American. When you delve deeper into Obama's activities in South Chicago,
you
will come to the realisation that there are other communities in Chicago
that
were down-trodden for one reason or the other. But Obama chose these other
down-trodden people of South Chicago. Edwards running as senator in North
Carolina fought for the down-trodden in other areas of North Carolina,
South
Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Massachussetts, Alabama, and
California.
Speak with Jimmy Carter and ask him to share his views on Obama and
Edwards. He
will tell you he loves both of them but that Edwards is more valuable to
all
America than Obama. It is not because Edwards is white and more Americans
are white that is why we say this. It is because of the quality of his
values
and since African Americans are disproportionately disenfranchised in all
states, they received the value of Edwards' efforts more than Whites.
Edwards
does not apologise for that. When the question arose in one of the debates
about
Obama being black and Clinton being a woman, John Edwards responded, and
in
public, that whoever does not vote for Obama because he is black, or
Clinton
because she is a woman, he, John Edwards does NOT want your vote. Now the
untrained eye will view this as political suicide and indeed it costed
Edwards
some white support because they began labelling him as an angry candidate.
Of
course they cannot make a distinction between anger and passion and half
of
those idiots belong in an insane asylum anyways, we just don't have a
comprehensive mental health intitution in the US that is why some of these
retards
find their way on talk shows and radio programs and TV interviews. Obama
has a
keen eye on the Presidency, has had even before the "grassroots
downtrodden
advocacy" in SOuth Shitown.
"As for being beholden to corporate America, well, all American presidents
are somewhat beholden to corporate America, and the difference is perhaps
just
a matter of degrees." Jabou.
Let us say you are right in the immediate above. You are therefore
admitting
that corporate America does command inordinate and a formidable power to
coerce American Presidents. The same will therefore be true of Evangelic
America. Now Edwards actually challenged the powers of corporate America in
the
court of law and won overwhelmingly. He therefore helped stem the cancer in
corporate America and enhanced the good in it for the prosperity of
America.
In
his campaign speeches when he ran with Kerry and now, he has always served
notice that he is immune to corporate control, no matter how formidable
that
may
be. And another thing. I think your recognition that both Edwards and Obama
will represent refreshing change in the American Presidency gives you hope
that
the two will be different from past American Presidents. We all therefore
take solace in the idea of an Edwards or Obama Presidency. You will
however
agree with me that in America, Just being President does not innoculate the
ordinary American from the relentl;ess onslaught of Pharmaceutical and
other
Corporate interests. We must therefore go further than just the Presidency
if
it
is the refreshing change we are really interested in. It has come to light
that most of Obama's advisors are leftover Clinton advisors. You may
remmember
when one of those advisors disrespectfully tried to malign the former
President Bill Clinton. And Obama shared with us that the former Clinton
advisor was
speaking of his past relations with Bill Clinton and therefore he, Obama is
not privy to that and cannot say anything on it. And the former Clinton
advisor is now an Obama advisor. Discernments. I also would like our
brother
and
friend Ousman to share with us one tangible value accrued from Obama's
"campaign for down-trodden votes in south SHitown". It is evident that the
United
Steel workers of America, The united Mine Workers of the same nation, The
Carpenters Union, and many more see more value in John Edwards than Obama,
Clinton, or other. Is there a national union of the un-employed of South
Chicago? We
may be presented with mirages of "grassroots campaign for votes" and
"grassroots conscientious advocacy".
"Having said that, Obama has spoken out against the insurance companies
who
are at the top of the food chain when it comes to corporate America
because
they own just about everything." Jabou.
Exactly my point Jabou. First, you should never speak against any
corporate
or individual interest because they own just about everything. That is the
wrong impetus. Now John Edwards did not stop at speaking out against rogue
corporate policies, he challenged them in courts on the behalf of Americans
and
overcame their enormous powers. He is only a lawyer as was Obama. Has Obama
filed suit against any rogue corporate policy on the behalf of the common
American? Those insurance companies he "spoke out against", has he
challenged
them
in a court of law on the merits or demerits of his disdain of them? Obama
was head of the Harvard Law Review. If Obama finds himself in a situation
where
vote-counting can yield a loss of his election to a Republican candidate,
what do you think will happen? What do you think Obama will do?
"You are right, I like both Edwards and Obama, and I think that Edwards is
a
great candidate, but I do not think that he will win the primaries." Jabou.
I think you are looking at the polls of those who view Edwards as an angry
candidate. Look deeper and follow the citizens of Iowa, New Hampshire,
South
Carolina, and Nevada. We are talking about primaries aren't we???? Check
around your neck of the woods around Cleveland Tennessee, Chattanooga,
Memphis,
Nashville, Jackson, Milan, etcetera. Let us know what you find out.
"He is good but America sees him as having been part of the old
establishment even if only because he ran before." Jabou.
I know you're just being sarcastic here. Who among all candidates,
Republican or Democratic, has not been part of the old Establishment. Don't
be
swayed
by cliches of these lunatics who fell through the administrative cracks
for
lack of enough space at rehab.
"I think Obama on the other hand stands a very good chance of winning the
primaries and Americans are angry enough at the republicans so that none of
their candidates stands a chance in the national elections, no matter who
they
are." Jabou.
Indeed Jabou. I agree with you. Obama does stand a very good chance of
winning at least one of the primaries if not all. As far as the anger of
Americans
at Republicans, I presume you share that all the democratic candidates
stand
equal chances when pitted against a Republican. We can all cherish that
but
let us focus for now on the voting democrats for the democratic primaries.
What we are trying to discern is "EDwards, Obama, or Clinton, who
represents
the
most valuable and desirable change for Democratic Americans". After the
primaries, we will change our effort by removing the word democratic from
our
query.
"So a wonderful and winning strategy for Democrats this time would be an
Obama/Edwards ticket." Jabou.
That wouldn't be a bad ticket either. If that ends up being the ticket it
would be formidable. It will be more formidable against the Republicans in
all
of America if it turns out to be Edwards-Biden, Edwards-Clinton,
Edwards-Obama, or Edwards-Gore. What do you think????
"Together, they can restore the hopes of the people and make great headway
towards reversing the damage that the last 8 years of a Bush
Administration
has done" Jabou.
Anything is a refreshing change from the last 8 years of cluelessness.
"Thanks for providing the link to Ousman's blog, I had not known of it
before. As for Andrew Young Ousman, he dances to the music of corporate
America
and so he has to pay the piper so no surprises there. He has now made a
career
of leading the pillagers and plunderers into Africa. Dr King is no doubt
turning in his grave." Jabou.
This is not fair. I have contributed in forming a comprehensive alliance
against my person and Edwards' person. This is not fair Jabou and Ousman.
The
two of you simply are too overwhelming even if I summon the entire essence
of my
very being. Please have mercy on me from here on in or pledge not to gang
up
against me and Edwards.
"Jabou"
What Friggin-ever. You mean Jabou and Ousman, don't you?? Whew. New
Gambians!!
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
Jabou, you know you are beautiful. I can never get upset at you.
I think you like both John Edwards and Obama, but that you like Obama
more
because his election will represent much needed change.
Would you consider that the election of John Edwards will also represent
change?
The work therefore is in discerning between John Edwards and Obama, who
is
the more desirable change!!!
Now, like you about John Edwards, I like Obama a lot because I think he is
brilliant, popular, and his election will give hope to a lot of Immigrant
Americans.
John Edwards not only represents hope for more Americans than Obama, he
has
shown the value of the change that he may accrue us. I have not had the
opportunity to witness a sampling of Obama's change except that he looks
different
from past presidents.
John Edwards' One America Foundation offers some hope.
John Edwards' rebuilding efforts in the Lower Ninth ward offer hope in
what
America can be.
John Edwards fought with Huge corporate outfits on the behalf of regular
and
common Americans, and John Edwards and Obama are both lawyers.
Senator John Edwards of North carolina will get dirty for you and with
you.
North Carolina used to be the home of Senator Jesse Helms.
John Edwards enjoys enormous peer support and the most endorsements from
Democratic governors of states than either Obama or Clinton.
John Edwards is more electable across the United states than any
candidate
currently seeking the presidency, Republican or Democrat. Check the stats.
Libby Edwards is beautiful and is not beholden to corporate America. Mrs.
Obama is beautiful but may be beholden to corporate America. She sits on
the
board of Walmart.
John Edwards is handsome and is not given to religious distinctions nor
does
he believe religion ought to be mixed with governance. John Edwards
believes
in Religion as moral and ethical compass, not administrative compass.
Obama is good. John Edwards is more valuable to all America. Edwards-Obama
may be formidable. What do you think my dear? Lemme know, Lemme know!!
You
know
Ousman is an Obama-head!!! Don't you??
Your friend and colleague Haruna.
In a message dated 12/13/2007 8:40:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Haruna,
I both like and have a great deal of respect for John Edwards and his
wife
Elizabeth for many reasons, some of which are mentioned below. However,
I
am
an Obama supporter myself. I also think Obama has a better chance of
being
elected because among other things, he is seen as the "change" candidate
by
a country that desperately needs change and Hillary ain't it. Infact,
I
think Hillary has turned into a "snake oil sales lady" and she is
everything to
everyone in her zeal to be president and I do not trust her at all and
the
rest of the country is beginning to see through her. I think that
Edwards'
best
shot will be as a V.P for Obama. I think together they would make an
awesome
team.
Now, now, don't get too upset.
Jabou
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 6:49 pm
Subject: I wish to share John Edwards with you:
We just concluded another conference call with David Medina, the national
campaign director for John Edwards.
We are excited about the prospects for a John Edwards Presidency. We are
pleased to have the support of Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover in South
Carolina. Our gratitude to the United Steel workers Union, The Mine
Workers
Union,
The Carpenters Union, and Friends of the Earth Action Network. I am proud
of
John Edwards' performance in the just concluded democratic candidate
debate
sponsored by the Des Moines Register. John Edwards is humble, intelligent,
and
stands up for the Common American even on unpopular issues. He has vision
and
character, attributes that are extremely valuable to American foreign
policy
and stature in the world.
We would like volunteers to assist in South Carolina, Iowa, Nevada, and
New
Hampshire. We also wish to ask for your financial support if your time
will
not allow volunteering. Please visit us at _http://www.johnedwards.com_
(http://www.johnedwards.com) and thank you for your support and company
toward
a
One-America.
Haruna.
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