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Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:46:19 +0200
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Brother Malanding,

I wish I could bother not to do that. I think it is important to clear the air of such messy glibs. Even as I write, my mistake has been construed on the other list as tacit approval of Mr. Ebou Jallow's view on the Foroyaa editorial - kind of sensational, isn't it? 
Besides, reading from my private response to the author, the issues raised bring new and very interesting twists on the Imam Fatty - President Jammeh imbroglio, arguments which I sincerely believe should be publicly shared. 

Many thanks, Dr. Jaiteh

Momodou S Sidibeh

---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Malanding Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations


> Mr. Sidibeh,
> I would not bother to pass on the private message to the entire list. Trust
> me, the L has seen more embarassing private messages before and yours will
> not be the last. I guess it goes to show how private the Internet is!
> 
> 
> Malanding
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Momodou S Sidibeh
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations
> 
> 
> MMmmm,
> 
> Even this clarification is not clear enough. I had opened two messages and
> simply replied the wrong one; and of course the private message I received
> was not from Ebou Jallow. With the author's kind permission I will post it
> to Gambia-L, and as you can see I have myself exposed matters (purely
> relating to Stockholmers) that need not be known publicly as yet.
> 
> Again my apologies
> 
> Momodou  S Sidibeh
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations
> 
> 
> Impossibly and totally wrong,
> 
> This message was supposed to be an answer to a private message. How it found
> its way to the Gambia-L as answer to this named article, is just too weared
> to discuss.
> My sincere apologies
> 
> Momodou S Sidibeh
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations
> 
> 
> Brother,
> 
> Honestly,
> Your piece is so good that I am toying with the idea of editing it and
> sending it to the list. I agree with you that many active debaters tend to
> be emotional. But that is partly because those like yourself with such
> erudition and clarity of mind often do not participate in the debates, a
> participation that would help all of us grow from rampant emotionalism.
> 
> Please edit this piece and post it to the list. It will do all of us much
> good.
> 
> I am just from work and for now I have promised myself that I will complete
> the draft constitution of our dormant Solidarity Forum by the coming
> week-end.
> Many thanks,
> 
> Modou.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ebou Jallow" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations
> 
> 
> I will defer with the PDOIS perspective on the 22nd July celebrations.
> Never mind your party gripes about praise singers who have played a
> role in our cultural history...a role far more significant than
> your "scientific" socialist dogma can ever acknowledge.  Let's just
> analyze one of your lopsided propositions about state security:
> 
> "President Jammeh should realize that the best form of state security is
> political maturity and integrity. When an office has integrity, when it
> is held in high esteem it receive protection from the people. When an
> office is brought into disrepute it becomes vulnerable."
> 
> What in the world is your party definition of "political maturity"
> and "integrity"? What do these purported virtues have to do with the
> security of the state?  We have learned harsh lessons in history from
> political philosophers like Hobbes, Machiavelli and even Marx himself
> that a political citizenry in reality is nasty and brutish.  And
> governments have to exact necessary measures to establish their
> authority to secure peace and order.  But no, a government by PDOIS
> will lecture us that the state shall rely on the good will of the man
> in the street to bring order out of chaos.  The PDOIS will then proceed
> with a far reaching agenda to define the meaning of "integrity" to the
> Gambian citizens.  Does this not sound like the precursor to another
> communist dictatorship?  This is the agenda that all socialists,
> including PDOIS, believe in-political evolution through "political
> education" not to secure individual property rights but a collectivist
> economy by which they, the socialist elites of the PDOIS will dictate
> to ordinary folks to wear the same Jackson-Five Afro haircut, and pay
> heavy taxes to the state just like Halifa and Seedia are "surrendering"
> their hard earned incomes to their constituencies.  This in effect is
> the socialist agenda and the vision that PDOIS has for the Gambia.
> 
> The 22nd July celebrations amongst other things does jubilate the few
> positive achievements of the APRC in many areas of Gambian life.  The
> United States of America celebrates 4th July every year to commemorate
> an armed revolt against a political order of the day some 200 years
> ago.  In Europe, France celebrates every year the bloodiest revolution
> in mankind's history.  In Asia, China does the same every year. Tell
> me, why not the Gambia when the legends of a similar history are still
> in power and still alive?  What all these celebrations have in common
> is a salient message.  A message that glorifies the human spirit (not
> men in army uniforms) that triumphs doubt and fear with a solid moral
> fortitude. A message that further teaches that if you want to lead Mr.
> Opposition Leaders, you must be a real MAN with guts and not just
> academic degrees.
> 
> Ebou
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