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Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
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I'm confused?!  Why bring this issue here?  What is the point?  If
you're brining something here, that has to do with the Bantaba and hte
person running it, what should the rest of us do?  What do you expect
the rest of us to do when we don't know Momodou Camara's side of the
story!?


nd And you've kept posting message upon message regarding this?  Why?
Could you not have emailed or somehow contacted Momodou privately and
voiced your concerns with him?


I don't know exactly what happened, but as it is Mr. Camara's forum,
whether it's wrong or right, he *does* have the right to reject or let
in whom he likes.  Though I'm not quite sure what happened in the
first place to cause him to decide *not* to let you to continue to
post there, if I'm getting your grievance right, that you were banned
from that forum and you don't feel you were given a suitable
explanation for that.


However, this seems to be in poor taste to them drag this into another
public forum, where I'd venture to say that most of us have no idea
what has gone on in the other forum, and thus, it doesn't seem fair to
me if you expect us to feel some sort of pitty for you and expect us
to jump on your side and demand that you be let back on the forum or
whatever it is you want.


It just seems strange and a bit childish to me to all of a sudden be
getting these emails about a situation that I, for one, had no idea
about!  It's liek the emails just started out in the middle of a
discussion that I had no part in.


But anyway *sigh*.  I hope that things get solved in an amicable way
for all, whatever that is.

Ginny



On 3/5/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'm sure that this and many other items that have surfaced on this list
> serve ( on Guinea, Mauritania, Senegal ) have not been - strictly speaking,
> Gambian-related issues, except for the fact that more 20% of Sierra Leone's
> teaching force and a more sizeable number of our refugees have been
> dispersed throughout the Gambia.
> The Sierra Leone presidential election is scheduled to take place on January
> 28th. 2007.
> We have also been discussing some Gambian issues on our Leonenet the past
> few months.
> This should have been a follow up on Bantaba on which I tried to post this a
> few seconds ago to no avail. It's on the theme/thread that I started on
> Chief Hinga Norman. I am still banned and understand that some people must
> obey orders. Sometimes obeying orders only make things a lot worse of
> course.
> http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3167
> But the subject matter is the same West African political malaise,
> transgressions of what ought to be justice, transparency, accountability and
> it's about the helplessness of people trapped in the mire of absolute lack
> of people power.
> There will be no further postings on this thread unless someone responds to
> it.  My blog will soon be accessible to all without any interference from
> censorship or slavery etc and I do write under my own name. It will be
> accessible when you will need to spend more than a whole day going through
> it. When there's a lot of beef on the bone.
> Yes, as all those who read Macbeth know, death and even murder is always a
> very sensitive matter, not only for heartless or tearful politicians. We're
> here involved and of course we are afraid of neither Virginia Woolf nor any
> of the widowers or grass widowers.
> Do you remember the Concord Times Interview with Berewa? You remember what
> he said? His exact words culminating in "I will do every thing that it is
> right to win but I won't do things that are wrong just to win."?
> I post these articulate links which are no crime and I do not post in lieu
> of words that I can myself write, but only in support of what I say, as I
> was trained to do. (I would post all of Professor Abdul Karim Bangura's
> readable books if those directly readable links would throw more light on
> whatever is. I could dispense with these economical links entirely. They are
> not my crutches, not on the telephone either, or face to face with anyone. I
> can speak for myself and express myself as well as anyone, whenever I choose
> to do so about matters that concern not only me.
> http://www.concordtimessl.com/bintumani.htm
> http://www.concordtimessl.com/archive.htm
> I am not yet angry. I am merely waiting for further provocation from Kabbah
> himself or Berewa.
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=sv&q=The+Life+of+Chief+Hinga+Norman
> Interesting article here about the Godfather of hypocrisy:
> http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=356&Itemid=36
> Two important issues raised both under the same category of hypocrisy:
> The first was widely discussed in international legal circles: Kabbah
> should/ would have taken the witness stand and received a battering from
> Chief Hinga Norman's defence attorney. He would have received more than a
> battering if I had been Chief Hinga Norman's lawyer, although I'm quite sure
> that he would have agreed to other compromise propositions, instead of
> opting for the case to proceed any further. Few know how much it has cost
> for it to come to this.
> I look forward to JLM's take on this:
> "However, notwithstanding its supremacy and independence, in practice the
> Special Court does succumb to political manoeuvrings as was evidenced in the
> case of Norman's petition to have the President testify in his defence. The
> court ruled against the idea, which to keen observers of the court suggests
> acquiescence to political pressure if not interference. It followed veiled
> threats from the corridors of power that if the court rules in favour of
> Norman, for Kabbah to appear as his witness, the president would go to the
> Supreme Court, the very court whose powers he had slighted, for it to decide
> whether the Special Court has the authority to subpoena a sitting president,
> which would have created a constitutional crisis and put the Special Court
> in even more crisis. Several months earlier, in the case of the former
> leader of Liberia, the Special Court ruled against Charles Taylor when he
> challenged the jurisdiction of the court to indict a sitting head of state,
> a ruling paradigm that serves as a pointer to the court's unsound judgment
> while capitulating to political pressure."
> As for this, it's like - as Malcolm (X) said about asking a man who has no
> morals to exercise his "moral conscience" Or a hypocrite to reincarnate into
> Mr. Sincere, or as we hear on CNN so often, for a leopard to change it's
> spots, or as I read in the Tanach a few days ago, Jeremiah 13.23, "Can a
> Cushite/ Ethiopian/Moor change his skin colour or a leopard his spots? - So
> too can you – in whom evil is ingrained – do good? " - or - as we say in
> Sierra Leone, about the thieving chimpanzee, "Monkey noh dae lef im black
> han"/ a monkey does stop doing its usual tricks.
> "Similarly, the government would also now try to show their sympathy,
> belated as it may sound, over the sad loss of Norman and in the process they
> would endeavour to extricate and distance themselves from the activities of
> the Special Court and what befell their 'colleague'."
> Remember the bad treatment that the chief was subjected to immediately after
> Sierra Leone security forces storming his offices where he sat as a minister
> of the Interior, a cabinet member of Kabbah's government being first
> summarily dumped into the darkness and dankness of that mosquito- infested
> dungeon in Bonthe Sherbro Island, which used to be a slave holders prison,
> for those unfortunate Africans awaiting deportation to the West, for a
> lifetime of working and living in slavery.
> Berewa and Kabbah should continue with their continuity project if it's not
> too late to change course. Kabbah should not proclaim or confess an
> ignorance that his High Commissioner Professor Cyril Patrick Foray (who also
> died) did not have about any phase of the war that Chief Hinga Norman
> fought.
>
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