Jane Warner, Ginny,

Perhaps I had not been clear enough in my response. Your questions
relate directly to what I thought I already mentioned, namely: if the
President wants to cozy up to the West (as he has been doing for some
years now) he cannot at once encourage militant Islam. He has to hold on
to the secular values of the state apparent. He has occasionally shown
to Imams the limits of their own power.
True these are complicated matters, but many will remember that we had
been there before on Gambia-L. It would perhaps be helpful if you can
all check articles in the Gambia-l archives during august 2003. There
are a great number of very illustrious articles written by sister Jabou
Joh, Ebrima Sallah and many others. This was at a time when the
president had a showdown with the State House Imam. Below is a link to
an article I posted at the time. It might just help to shed a little
light on some of the questions raised.

http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind0308&L=gambia-l&H=1&O=D&F=
P&S=&P=16936

Cheers,
Momodou


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Dear Momodou,

I have been following this discussion with interest.  I wondered if you 
could say a little more about the following:

Even though the Gambian
> state, under President Jammeh has become stronger (through coercion),
it
> is religious strife that may bring down regimes like his, if it
> continued its de-secularisation tendencies of the past.

Specifically, I wonder why, and how, Jammeh would want to reverse
secular 
trends, especially if he wants to cozy up to western leaders.  Why would

he perceive it in his interest to encourage Islamic militancy at home?

I know it is all complicated, but I'd be interested in any thoughts you 
had on this.

Best regards,
Jane

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Jane Zainab Warner-Tholley
University of Washington
Seattle, Washington  98195


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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:

> Ginny,
>
> Ginny,
>
> I promised earlier that I would comment on some of your thoughts. But
> first a motorbike taxi is precisely just a taxi. It carries you to a
> specific destination for pay. Some of the issues you raised are
> practical questions which might just sort themselves out with time. I
> mean some drivers will instantly turn their taxis into female
transports
> because they make better company and as one man said in the story "
they
> (women) are more generous".
>
> Generally, I think many African Islamic communities are watchful of
what
> goes on in Nigeria's sharia states. The violence and continuous
tensions
> implementation of sharia law in some of these are themselves awesome
> deterrents to muslims wishing to follow suit. Even though the Gambian
> state, under President Jammeh has become stronger (through coercion),
it
> is religious strife that may bring down regimes like his, if it
> continued its de-secularisation tendencies of the past. He cannot
> continue playing Bush's buddy in the Texan's war against international
> terror while he encourages militant Islam in Gambia. As I indicated
> earlier, his radical embrace of Arab friends has ended somewhat.
> But there is a marked difference between the 9/11 backlash on muslims
in
> America (story posted by Ylva Hernlund) and the Africans' experience
of
> religious intolerance. In both cases, I think the identities of people
> come under assault, but in Africa this assault has always been of a
more
> thorough and brutal kind. Both Islam and Christianity came from
outside,
> Islam through jihadist violence while the latter in the wake of
imperial
> domination. Both of them literally forced Africans to shed their
> identities completely. Animist traditions, Africa's own indigenous
> religions, are so marginalised that most Africans associate them with
> paganism.
>
> In Uganda, there is an important surviving legend: One of the
Baganda's
> (a distinct ethnic group) reigning Kabaka (Baganda king) at the dawn
of
> imperial conquest summoned both muslim imams and catholic priests
> competing to convert his people to their respective religions. The
king
> summoned all his people to the village square and begged them to
listen
> to the two missionaries looking for followers. He also requested the
two
> religious leaders to take turns to explain to his people the nature of
> their faiths.
> When they were done explaining and answering questions, the King said
to
> his people: "...these religions are asking us to abandon our own and
pay
> allegiance to them. Whatever we do, both demand a lot of sacrifice
from
> our own way of life".
>
> Cheers,
> Momodou S Sidibeh
>
>
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> Hello, Momodou, I put the link to the article you posted on my blog.
I
> have
> a lot of questions about the implementation of this new law.  Firstly,
> are
> we talking about traditional taxis?  If so, are the taxi drivers
taking
> a
> group of people, or jost one or two?
>
>     What is a motorcycle taxi?  What are they used for?  If the
> authorities
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