Hello, Abdoukarim, you are right, and I've found that myself in
reading some 19th and early 20th century writings on Africa and
Africans, and someof this by Africans themselves.  It's bad enough
when the so-called colonial powers hold prejudices and think
themselves superior to others, but when you see Africans belittle
their own culture, and acting just like the colonial masters, that to
me is even worse.

     BTW, I know this is completely off the subject, but I just got a
breaking news alert from the BBC saying "thousands dead in New
Orleans".  This really is bad!

Take care all...

Ginny



On 8/31/05, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ginny the simple fact is reading memoirs of colonial writers and early
> European travellers to the continent in many instance with common sense you
> can dictate element of prejuice. Cultural imperialism is an important pillar
> of European colonialism. many early European writers have preconceived
> opinion about our culture and their interaction with the people.
>
> Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Hello, I'm finding this discussion to
> be very interesting. Also,
> regarding the quotes that Momodou presented, the first quote was:
>
> "... the African, as the author knows him, is the personification of
> untruth; that is he never tells the truth for truth's sake, even in
> the simple matter
> of the position of a town or the distance thereto, but, like those who
> are to be beaten with few stripes, he knows not the depth of his
> iniquity from our
> point of view. He lies because facts are stubborn..."
>
> What? The personnification of untruth? How does the author come
> to this conclusion? And the "depth of his iniquity"? I can't even
> really understand what the author is trying to suggest, only that the
> author thinks Africans to be generally dishonest... And I was all
> ready to see if I could locate the book in accessible format until I
> saw this quote. I'm not sure I could get through the whole book
> without getting angry, so now I'm not so sure I'd want to read it.
>
> Momodou also quoted:
>
> "... breaches of this cotton which are tied across, and reach to the
> ankles and are otherwise so large as to be from thirty to thirty-five,
> or even forty
> palmi round the top; when they are girded round the waist they are
> much crumpled and form a sack in front and the hinder part reaches to
> the ground and
> waggles like a tail - the most comical things to be seen in the world.
> They would come in these wide petticoats with these tails and ask us
> if we had ever
> seen a more beautiful dress fashion...", (The Gambia: The Story of the
> Groundnut Colony).
>
> I'm trying to picutre this in my head, with not too good of a result.
> And what's the point of brining this up? The only thing I can figure
> is that this is meant to cast Gambians and Africans, in general, in a
> further negative light.
>
> Anyway, take care all, I need to get back towork now.
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
> On 8/31/05, Wallymang Sanneh wrote:
> > Mr Sey
> > Legend has it that the name Sabiji came about because the founder of
> Sabiji
> > Amdalai Demba was asked by a fortune teller to run after his sheep and
> > settle whereever the ship was caught. Sabiji literally means the "the
> Sheep
> > (Sajiyo) is there". Sabiji was at or near present day Bakoteh. The same
> > legend said that there was a big fire in Sabiji presumably years after it
> > was settled and Amlai Demba and his kin moved to present day Sukuta which
> > means new home in Mandinka. However peolple continue to use the names
> > interchangeably.
> > nyancho
> > native sukutan
> > jawo abdoulie wrote:
> > Mr Sey,
> >
> > That sounds interesting. However, it will also be interesting to know how
> > the name came to be pronounced as S-a-b-i-j-i instead of "Saa bije"
> (meaning
> > a "a snake is there")!!
> >
> > Bijilo for instance is the shorter name for "Biji lo ja $B9, (B" (Biji
> > stop/stand here), a statement from the first settler in Bijilo, Biji Bah,
> a
> > cattle herdsman.
> >
> > Jaraama....
> >
> > Abdoulie - Malawi
> >
> > baboucarr Sey wrote:
> > I don $BB4 (Bt know of Lamin but Sukuta and Sabiji is same,
> > simply because in the early days before the town was
> > called someting else, the town was a no go area after
> > night fall people who venture to go there after night
> > fall were attack by a big snake hence the name Sabiji.
> >
> > To cut the store short don $BB4 (Bt go it $BB4 (Bs late at night
> > the snake is around.
> >
> > Mandinka ka nata sutokuta sarbiji
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mbye
> >
> > --- Malanding Jaiteh wrote:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > > A quick question for all. Is Gunjur or Kunjur?
> > > Sukuta or Sabiji? Lamin
> > > or Lameng? I know they are writen one way and
> > > pronounced the other. So
> > > what are the real names of these towns?
> > >
> > > Malanding Jaiteh
> > >
> > >
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