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Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
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Elhadj,

I agree, it would be puzzling if the Sebegalese are cooperating with teh APRC
to harass Gambians. No conclusions reached, and that is why if your read my
message carefully, I gave different scenarios that may have led someone to
conclude that the Senegalese were cooperating with the NIA and suggested that only
if those possibilities were eliminated should we consider protesting to the
Senegalese. Of course if it happended that  the NIA bribed some Senegalese
customs officials none of them will ever admit it, but those who were harassed can
provide information as to whether any bogus charges were levelled at them.

Jabou


In a message dated 10/16/03 10:05:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Jabou & Conteh,
> Pls. let us not rush to judgement again! We should make a proper
> investigation of what happened in Senegal, before rushing to conclusion. I
> was in senegal for two months and I heard the views of many senegalease. The
> football dispute found me in Dakar and I was living at Nord Foire, very near
> to the Stadium, and I heard the remarks from most of the people in the media
> and in town. Jammeh was quick to be in Dakar to compromise with them. I, for
> one, do not believe that the senegalease government will ever dance to the
> music of this present Gambia government. The Senegalease government will
> never allow the NIA to operate in Senegal. There are so many WANTED Gambians
> presently living in Senegal, and the NIA cannot get them. Why can`t they go
> for them? The senegalease government are aware of Gambia government`s double
> standard games with them. So, they are very careful about involving in
> Gambian problems, unless they are compelled to involve. So please, I am not
> disregarding your information, but let us make more investigations on the
> issue.
>
> Elhajj
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jabou Joh" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Gambians Detained/inform U.S Embassy!!
>
>
> > Conteh,
> >
> > I must say that I also did not know what to make of the implication that
> the
> > Senegalese were cooperating with the NIA in detaining Gambians travelling
> > through their country. There are several possibilities. The Senegalese
> officials
> > in question could have been bribed by the NIA and not acting on any
> official
> > orders from their government, the NIA may have misrepresented information
> > regarding these individuals to get the cooperation of the Senegalese or if
> they were
> > acting on Senegalese official orders, then you are quite right, we have ot
> > question the political maturity of our leaders on the continent because
> what
> > Gambians are experiencing at teh hands of the APRC regime and their
> history of
> > meddling in the Casamance issue is no news ot Abdoulaye Wade. I think this
> > question needs to be put to the Senegalese because the last thing we want
> is for
> > them to join hands with Yaya Jammeh's regime in the further oppression of
> our
> > people.
> >
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> > In a message dated 10/16/03 5:19:14 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > Sister Jabou:
> > >
> > > May I also add that we on L need to arrange a demonstration are the
> > > Senegalese
> > > Embassy in D.C!  The whole approach of engagement has reached a point
> that I
> > > wonder whether the African continent has reached a stage of political
> > > maturity.
> > >
> > > If in fact this is true, the Senegalese government should be condemned.
> It
> > > is disturbing
> > > that President Wadd has turned his back on the very principle that he
> stood
> > > for as an
> > > opposition figure.
> > >
> > >
> > > Naphiyo,
> > > ML Jassey-Conteh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Oct 15, 2003 9:08 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Gambians Detained/inform U.S Embassy!!
> > >
> > > Any Gambian that is a U.S passport holder, the very first thing you
> should
> > > do
> > > when you go to any country, especially Gambia these days, is to go and
> > > register with the American Embassy. This  is something that is always
> > > recommended by
> > > the U.S state department. This will provide a record of your presence in
> the
> > > country and your arrival and proposed departure dates. Should anything
> > > happen
> > > to you, the embassy will look into it.
> > > Also, for those people who were detained and questioned at Dakar
> airport,
> > > the
> > > first thing they should have done before answering any questions was to
> ask
> > > for a telephone to call the U.S embassy in Dakar. If you ask for this
> and
> > > are
> > > refused, then take note of that and make sure you report the entire
> > > experience
> > > plus the denial to place the  call to the  embassy as soon as possible
> or
> > > have
> > > someone do it if you are not in a position to do so.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/15/03 2:48:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > NIA/Customs and Senegalese Secret Agents, detained and questioned a
> group
> > > > of
> > > > Gambians, at Dakar's, Leopold Sedar Sengor International Airport.
> Three
> > > > members of the group are of US Citizenship, three with US residency
> and
> > > > three with
> > > > refugee passports. Two other sisters, unrelated to the group were also
> > > > interviewed and released and made the journey overland to Banjul.
> > > > Will keep you posted on the Lies and Damn Lies, concocted by these NIA
> > > dogs
> > > > against Gambians in the Diaspora. Apparently, Jammeh's latest trip
> > > overseas,
> > > > was to secure various equipment for crowd control and the fear of mass
> > > > demonstrations against skyrocketing prices and constant intimidation
> of
> > > > opposition
> > > > parties.
> > > > Awaiting final negotiations for the release of all detained comrades.
> > > > Keep the pressure on Jammeh and support an opposition party or the
> > > coalition
> > > > of the willing and able.
> > > > Good Morning from Jollof Land.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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