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Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]>
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Tombong,

Let Cheyassin  himself deny writing the e-mail afterall he is a lawyer,
and he will be online or is already on line. What you can't deny is the
author of the e-mail in question is familiar what the issue.

Tombong wrote;

The email address q [log in to unmask] does not belong to Pap Cheyassin Secka
or is this from anyimaginary Pap Cheyassin Secka just as your sources are
imaginary?

Ebrima's sources so far have been on the mark. His sources are detrimental
to you and your boss so it makes sense for you to try
to discredit them. The only question that you need to ask is for Yahya
Jammeh, and you know what that question is. Till you muster the courage
to ask that question, save us your propaganda.

Sal Barry


>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue!
>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:56:39 GMT
>
>Tombong Saidy:
>
>You see, stop under-estimating the intelligence of the members of the
>Gambia-L. Believe me, people on the List are not fools! In fact, they are
>smarter than you can imagine.
>
>My brother, you have this habit of dividing the list, or diverting
>attention, for instance, whenever your monster boss Yaya Jammeh is being
>mercilessly exposed as a corrupt tyrant on the list.
>
>And now, because the current attention on the L is on me, but more
>importantly, given the fact that some of the comments on the list are very
>critical of me, you then decided to chip in - to send in an e-mail, saying
>that Cheyassin Secka told you that he did not write the e-mail I posted to
>the L - which was signed in his name - so that those on the L who are
>critical of me can also use your "bait" as a way to do further attacks on
>me.
>
>Tombong Saidy, I sincerely believe that you might have even convinced Pap
>Cheyassin Secka that now was a very good time to deny writing that e-mail,
>so that more people on the L, can attack me, or question my integrity.
>
>Well, Tombong, I can assure you that the members of L are smarter than you.
>For three weeks now, the e-mail, purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka"
>was on the L, and neither you nor Cheyassin Secka himself denied owning it
>until now, when I am the subject of attention/controversy on the L.
>
>So, Tombong, you have come again to divide the list. By the way, tell me,
>this time around, who is your "bait" meant for? Who do you want to catch?
>
>Tombong Saidy, you can never succeed in tarnishing my integrity, not this
>time around. Anyway, the good thing is that there are some many computer
>experts on Gambia L these days; so they can easily track down or trace
>where
>the e-mail in question had come from.
>
>They may not know who wrote it, but they can easily trace where the e-mail
>in question, was sent from. And, in fact, if you look at the caption of
>that
>e-mail purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka", I had put Cheyassin's name
>IN QUOTES: "Cheyassin Secka".
>
>And even if you look at the caption of very posting you sent today -
>reproduced below - and which posting I am now reacting to, you'll see that
>Cheyassin Secka's name was in fact in quotes: "Cheyassin Secka"
>
>So, even assuming that SoS Cheyassin Secka didn't write the e-mail in
>question, I still haven't committed any wrong journalistically once his
>name
>was put in quotes - "Cheyassin Secka". But I suppose you wouldn't know this
>rule/precept in Journalism, because you are not a trained one. Why not ask
>Jainaba Nyang or Bora Mboge to lecture you on this one?
>
>In conclusion, I call on Momodou Camara, Manjie Nyang, Yusupha Jow, Katim
>Touray to check the IP number of the e-mail in question, and report to the
>L
>where it came from. They may not know who wrote the e-mail in question if
>the real Cheyassin Secka claimed that he did not write it; but they will
>surely know where the e-mail was actually sent from. They will, for sure,
>know the machine from where it was sent from.
>
>And, Gambia-L, given the content of the e-mail in question - and also
>having
>regard to its explicit nature - I am convinced that it indeed came from
>Cheyassin himself or an insider in the Ministry of Justice.
>
>Saul Khan: I saw your comments on the Ebou Taal saga, but I believe you
>missed the point. I reacted to Mambuna Bojang on the grounds of principles.
>Sal Taal sent me a private e-mail and asked me, in the name of
>"transparency", to forward it to the L. He also wrote clearly that he was
>"awaiting" my reply.
>
>Now, Saul Khan, consider this: Salieu Taal's castigating e-mail was on the
>L
>for two days, but neither you nor Mambuna Bojang wrote anything to the
>effect that Sal's e-mail shouldn't have been sent to the L. I am sure a few
>members of the L were in fact happy that I was being attacked in that
>manner.
>
>Now, when it was my turn to reply Salieu, I was now being told by Mambuna
>that I should have sent my e-mail to Sal privately. What is the
>justification here? Why didn't you or Mambuna come out and object when Sal
>or his sister sent in their e-mails?
>
>You read both Sal's and Fatou Taal's insulting e-mails without saying
>nothing for two days at least, but when it was my legal right to reply, you
>and Mambuna came out to lecture me on the laws of privacy. Don't get me
>wrong: I believe the two of you had a valid point to make, but I am
>questioning the timing your postings came. And postings were addressed to
>me
>alone, none was addressed to Sal or his sister
>
>Frankly, if Mambuna, or you, wrote your observation immediately after Sal's
>or Fatou's e-mails were posted to the L, then I could have understood. But
>you kept quiet for two days until when I replied and now you want to
>lecture
>me on the laws of privacy. Where is the fairness here? You see my point?
>Anyway, I hope we can now move on and join efforts/hands to try and unseat
>the dictator in Kanilai.
>
>Mambuna Bojang, my apologies to you nonetheless if you found my earlier
>comments offensive. As I always say, The Gambia is a small society and we
>are all one big family. So we must demand to live in continued peace and
>harmony. I was in fact "surprised" last night when someone called me from
>London to say that you are Amie Bojang-Sissoho's brother.
>
>Well, Amie was a colleague and a good sister for that matter. In fact, very
>recently, I went to visit her when she came from Southampton, UK, to spend
>a
>weekend at Ndey Jobarteh's flat. So I'll call ask her later this afternoon
>and ask her to make peace between the two of us. (laugh)
>
>Ebrima Ceesay
>Birmingham, UK.
>
>
>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue!
>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:34:19 PDT
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>
>>You wrote:
>>
>>
>>I spoke to Mr. Pap Cheyassin Secka and showed him your email and the email
>>you claimed he wrote. The man categorically denied ever writing such an
>>email. He has been following GAMTEL for sometime now to get him online.
>>GAMTEL will get him connected this week and has also assigned him an email
>>address, which he has not yet used. If the Attorney General denies ever
>>sending an email, then where does this email come from? How can you claim
>>that the email was written by Pap Cheyassin Secka and addressed to you?
>>The
>>email address
>>q [log in to unmask] does not belong to Pap Cheyassin Secka or is this from
>>any
>>imaginary Pap Cheyassin Secka just as your sources are imaginary? This is
>>a
>>serious crime, especially as a journalist. This is not impersonation, but
>>forgery at best.
>>
>>Credibility is the most important quality for a journalist to have.
>>
>>
>>PEACE
>>
>>TOMBONG
>>
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