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saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
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Omar,

I'm not surprised by what you've said, but where is the demagogy here? Who
doesn't feel good about who or what he is? Where are you picking that up?

Saul.


>From: Omar Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>Subject: SV:      Re: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for
>       Gambia-L
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:06:57 +0100
>
>G-L community,
>
>It would be unfortunate if tribal sentiments should become an issue here.
>Remember this is time for "self heal and nation". I believe we should just
>feel good as to who or what we, and put our tribal differences in the
>closet, and come out to pose a united front in solving our common problems.
>Let us not degenerate our constructive debates. That would be folly of us.
>So guys lets get to work and stop this demagoguery.
>
>Regards,
>Omar.
>
>
>-----Opprinnelig melding-----
>Fra: yeks drame <[log in to unmask]>
>Til: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Dato: 29. november 1999 17:10
>Emne: Re: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L
>
>
> >Saul,
> >I mean, why are you taking such a stance. Its unproductive! very
>backward,
> >and can even be considered irresponsible! for that matter.
> >Off course, I did read your piece, and it doesn't sound positive.
> >
> >I think you need to use your mind better! No body is going to be out here
>to
> >entertain such ideas! Robinson's piece was very educative and smart. A
> >better Gambia, is the agenda  Saul, in case you  missed the point!
> >Do you consider the out come of such ideas as "Tribalism"? what effects
>do
> >they have? Why are you puting energy on"Tribal" diversity?
> >
> >I have been reading some of your wounderful pieces, and thought you were
> >more smart than this. Take a little research on that word "Tribe" and see
>if
> >it even fit our society! It has more wider meanings and effects than you
>may
> >think. We shall not entertain that Saul! be careful! its realy backwarded
> >and unproductive.
> >
> >I think, if you dont have anything to add, or argue constructively,please
> >give chance to others who can come up better ideas concerning the
>progress
> >and prosperity of our people. We are not out here just for a matter of
> >challeging others.We are here to discuss ideas.Further more I will
>consider
> >this a waste of time and energy for you, because the average Gambian is
>very
> >well aware of the effects of this so called "tribal" issue." so please
>"lagg
> >av nu"
> >
> >No hard feelings brother, "tribal" issues doesn't suit us! we are one.
> >
> >Yahya
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L
> >>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:14:31 GMT
> >>
> >>Yaya, Yaya, Yaya...
> >>
> >>Some things just don't change. Do they? Read my piece and read Alpha's
> >>again, and ask yourself who the real tribalist is. Like they say around
> >>here, "the mind is a terrible thing to waste." Use your mind Yaya!
> >>
> >>Saul.
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: yeks drame <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Reply to Basiru Ndow:Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L]
> >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:42:32 PST
> >>>
> >>>What are U up to Saul?
> >>>I am disapointed with those ideas of "tribal defendance"
> >>>Alpha's proposals were not "tribal" nor were they so bad as you may
>have
> >>>thought.If he sound wrong in his proposals, may be you have a better
>idea.
> >>>We will certainly love to hear that one too!
> >>>
> >>>Any way, I am certain that Robinson, is a reasonable and responsible
> >>>person
> >>>who can clarify his agenda better than I may do.However, we sould not
>be
> >>>out
> >>>here to entertain such backward ideas as "tribalism"
> >>>Infact I even hate thet word! Am sorry brother but, I thought,we should
> >>>have
> >>>by now been thinking far ahead of that. What is "tribalism"?????
> >>>
> >>>Yahya
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>Subject: Reply to Basiru Ndow:Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L]
> >>>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:00:13 GMT
> >>>>
> >>>>Basiru,
> >>>>
> >>>>You need to go back and read my article again. I'm not a fan of
> >>>>Ousainou's.
> >>>>However, whether he's another Jawara is beside the point. The gist of
>my
> >>>>article is that we should go after individuals who, for one reason or
> >>>>another are keeping our nation down, not any particular group or
>tribe.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you have evidence that Ousainou was campaigning on tribalism,
>produce
> >>>>it,
> >>>>and I'll be the first to condemn him. Regarding the D30K, I'm not
> >>>>familiar
> >>>>with the case. But YOU can use this forum to raise that issue.
> >>>>
> >>>>Regarding my contention w/ Alpha, if all you have is what you've said
> >>>>here,
> >>>>that's very sad. We can do better than  taking cheap shots at each
>other.
> >>>>If
> >>>>you want to engage in an intelligent argument by producing evidence to
> >>>>back
> >>>>your assertions, I'm game. But if your only mission is to engage in
> >>>>sleaze,
> >>>>you'll have to look elsewhere. So Mr. Ndow, you either put up, or just
> >>>>shut
> >>>>up! I won't dignify your sleaze.
> >>>>
> >>>>Saul.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Basiru Ndow <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>>Subject: [Fwd: Reply to Alpha's Some proposals for Gambia-L]
> >>>>>Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:20:06 -0600
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Saul,
> >>>>>   Your article is absolute nonsense.!!!!!you need to broaden up your
> >>>>>mind
> >>>>>and stop
> >>>>>pretending, whether you like it or not, this is the tactic that
>Ousainou
> >>>>>used as a last resort to win the last elections..After all Ousainou
>is
> >>>>>just
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>REPLICA of the ousted PPP regime, he was recently indicted by the
> >>>>>commission after collecting D30,969.00 from public coffers to recover
> >>>>>$74,000. from the defunct NTC, he never did his Job and never return
> >>>>>our money back....Wow!!!! Is he not going to be another Jawara or
> >>>>>Jammeh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Basiru Ndow
> >>>>>
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