Amen, Ms Jabou you said it all.
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Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna/Jabou.
Haruna,
I have to confess that you lost my interest when you delved into "Chicago
hitside" Chicago shitside?
ren't you just a tad bit angry for a discussion that is supposed to help you
in friends and influence people on behalf of the candidate you profess to
upport?
fter reading your last response, I had a hard time trying to discern whether
ours was a personal anger towards Barack Obama because he was of mixed race,
ttended Harvard and was president of the Harvard Law Review, or was a community
rganizer in the South side of Chicago and failed to include all the Ghettos in
he United States in that effort and you think all of these are supposed to be
ndictments against him or if your truly feel that the way to promote Edwards
as to drag his opponents in the gutter?
I guarantee you that if you ran your response by any camp of the Edwards
ampaign, they would have asked you not to post it.
have never seen John Edwards drag his opponents reputation or record in the
utter because he is intelligent enough to know that this is hardly a way to win
otes and that people are sick and tired of this sort of senseless tirades.
ohn Edwards speaks about how in his youth, he witnessed lawyers and judges in
is native South Carolina
stand up against racism during the civil rights era and how they risked their
ives and had to be escorted to work by Federal Marshalls and yet, they kept
n. He speaks of the admiration he had for these people standing up against
acism. He would not wonder if people would vote for Obama because he is of
ixed race.
Edwards may have sued insurance companies and won some judgements against them,
ut that has not resulted in any changes that prevent insurance companies
inding loopholes to pay out claims. Just ask the victims of Katrina.
nd the case for which Edwards won the largest judgement was for a family whose
hild got her hair or was it a limb caught in the drainage system of a swimming
ool.
What supporters of the various candidates should concentrate on is to present
hat their candidate can do for the people when elected so they can convince
oters that they are the right person and how they do t hat matters a great
eal. Engaging in maligning the other candidate as a strategy to win supporters
ever works and tends to be symptomatic of some personal issue the those who
ngage in it may have. Also, when supporters engage in the latter, they become
iabilities as opposed to being assets.
ake it easy Haruna, rage does not draw in people, it makes them head in the
pposite direction and it is bad for the heart. It is the people who will have
he last word.
ow, I shall leave you to it.
abou
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rom: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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ent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 6:44 pm
ubject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna/Jabou.
Haruna," Jabou.
Yes Ma'am, hope all's well. Good to hear you again.
Too long winded so I will be brief." Jabou.
cannot for the life of me, believe mine own ears. Jabou? Dis-ease for
ong-windedness? As Rocco Mediate is wont to quip of Tiger, If there ever were a
ood time to die, I'm red to go. Jabou, I'm extremely sorry for my long winds.
I will have been remiss were I not to have been comprehensive with your
ueries of John Edwards. In addition, I intended to share other value-added
rocess for discernment.
remmembered a good friend of mine, Corporate attorney Charles McClure
hared, "Haruna, our job is to discourage our clients' customers from desiring
etail and comprehension without running roughshod to minimalist law. My
lients include Insurance Agencies and multi-national corporations". The ones
ho
eem to own just about everything Jabou. "And, when it comes to any challenge
n courts of law, we encourage fellow corporate attorneys and judges, to
eview the entire constitution, ammendments, and precedent law". I knew the
reat
harles was unto something. This is exactly the reason why John Edwards
hooses cases carefully for advocacy sakes. I enjoy your long winds from Foroyaa
abou. I know you were being sarcastic but it struck me befuddled.
ow then.
Just a few important points." Jabou.
es. Let'r Rip!
Edwards fought corporate America on behalf of his clients as a litigation
ttorney." Jabou.
ndeed. John Edwards challenged the parts of law that Insurance and drug
ompanies relied on to stifle claims for errors and omissions. Indeed. Indeed.
ohn Edwards litigated profusely and with all his might, for his clients, the
lliterate of law, the powerless to challenge wrongdoing, and in the process,
e forced clarifications of hitherto un-interpreted law to yield precedent
hat discouraged the culprit corporations and other from taking refuge in
mbiguity. I am sorry Jabou. Sometimes you must be long-winded to yield value
ontext and comprehension. I am told long directional winds can be harnessed
or
nergy.
When he won on behalf of those clients, he was paid very well for his
fforts." Jabou.
would suppose so. Lawyers, like carpenters, doctors, masons, engineers,
nd dishwashers, must receive value for effort and productivity. John Edwards
id not choose to litigate just any infringement. The ones he chose to
itigate have national and constitutional dimensions. His remuneration came
rom
hatever the judge determines is just penalty or compensation for victims and
heir advocate lawyer. The fees for lawyers are communicated to their clients
rior to representation. They are normally a percentage of the settlement or
enalty for corporate wrongdoing. Whether John Edwards was paid very well or
ot, is not terribly significant to me. Whatever he was paid, he invested
eavily in his foundations (the poverty center, One America, The Ninth ward of
ew Orleans, Carolina's poor and dispossessed. All while his wife Libby was
nder doctor's care for terminal illness. Barak, like his wife, is an
ccomplished lawyer. They chose to side with corporate interests that John
dwards
erves notice to. Comparative values my dear.
He did not offer his services gratis when he sued those corporations."
abou.
should think not. Besides he has his wife's medical bills to pay and his
hildren to raise. Further, were he to have lost any of the cases, he will not
ave been compensated for his fees were reliant on his victory over evil and
urisprudent compensation therefrom. That is why John Edwards represented
he indigent and those of lesser means than his fees would require. He was
onfident in the victory of good over evil, and he took enormous risks of loss.
Perhaps you can share with us the major changes that came about as a result
f Edwards winning these lawsuits." Jabou.
'm sorry I must be long to do your query justice my Jabou.
. When we desire democracy, whose cardinal tenet is The rule of common
aw, we desire that the common comprehends law that contains the rights and
rivileges whose aversion by other should trigger judicious challenge. In a
ociety where there are some (possibly one partner to that law), who are
blivious
o this rule of law and democracy indigents harp on about. That is where the
eed for lawyers comes in. They are the bedrock of due-diligence and
emocracy. John Edwards being a lawyer, intrinsically accrues value to any
ociety
n which he practices.
. Lawyers choose from several areas of practice. Not all lawyers choose
ases for advocacy for the indigent. John Edwards chose advocacy law. He is
aluable to democracy and equal justice under the law.
. When John Edwards wins his cases, a precedent in law is established so
hat no matter which of the contiguous United States including Hawaii that are
artner to the constitution, may rely on such precedent. That assists in
iscouraging fraudulent practice by rogue corporations who seem to own just
bout
verything.
. Jabou, you and I, though never among John Edwards' direct clientele, are
urrently benefitting from John Edwards' legal victories. For the specific
aws and precedent, I refer you to the public records of John Edwards' cases.
Speaking of votes that have had a major impact on American lives, I would
ay none top that list more than the Iraq war." Jabou.
ow do you mean??? I beg to differ. I do agree that the senate of which John
dwards was a part, approved a military campaign to apprehend Saddam and
ring him to answer to charges of mass murder and belligerent foreboding. Many
raquis, Iranians, and Kuwaitis lost their lives and liberties at the hand of
addam. Perhaps I would agree with you that the campaign was badly
rosecuted. For which Edwards cannot be to blame. He saw fit however, to
pologise for
hatever part he may have played in the cantankerous prosecution of a
ampaign of conscience. A Solid Human. I make no apologies for John Edwards.
and Edwards voted for the war" Jabou.
ohn Edwards voted along with his coleagues to approve a military campaign
n Iraq. Not for the Iraq war we now witness. He is being magnanimous in
emorse of poor prosecution of the campaign. I would like John Edwards to
pprove
military campaign against me in that manner. And I will not require apology
f him.
and it has impacted American lives as well altered how America is viewed
y the World forever." Jabou.
ndeed. Anything America does, impacts on the lives of Americans and world
itizens in a big way. That is why circumspect and due-diligence is advised in
rosecutions of campaigns.
Haruna, your amazingly harsh rhetoric against Obama is bordering on the
swift boat" strategy of the last elections." Jabou.
am not familiar with the Swift Boat incident. I therefore do not consider
t in demarches. I am sorry you regard our exchange here as harsh rhetoric
gainst Obama for on mine own part, I know no personal cause to spurn at him,
ut for the general. Besides, in my effort to solicit support for John
dwards, it will be utterly foolhardy to offend other, including Obama. You and
I
ust leave open, the prospect of future collaboration between John Edwards and
arack Obama. Here, we engage in studious discernments and recognition of
omparative values. I advice temperance toward John Edwards.
you don't want the angry label being made against your candidate to be true
or his supporters." Jabou.
hould the angry label be self-fulfilling against John Edwards, We will
nvent commensurate compassion and understanding. We are children of God/Allah.
abbil Aalameen.
Enough of negative campaigning already! Another reason why Obama is a
reath of fresh air?" Jabou.
ndeed Obama is a breath of fresh air. John Edwards is Freshivating.
Have a good weekend." Jabou.
hank you my sister. As if Allah was aware of your prayer. I made merry and
roduced value for other this weekend. I pray for your glorious sustenance
ll weekends. Thank you for the prayer.
our bestest brother, Haruna.
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rom: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
o: [log in to unmask]
ent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 3:54 pm
ubject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
"Haruna," Jabou.
es Darling, how are you. I like the way you speak and what you say always.
ou have an immensely powerful voice fertilized, as our friend Karim is
ont
o drammatize, by prolific study, acumen, and measured tone. Any candidate
ould like to have your support. I'm not giving up on Ousman either. I love
im
very much. Just don't get any funny ideas Ousman.
"I do not know that what Edwards can represent to the American people is
ot the same as what Obama will." Jabou.
I was under the same impressions too. Then I began a study of senators who
ater run for President in a revolutionarily different way that reviews
arginal values. There is a wealth of information that when properly
eviewed
r
eviewed in the directions of questions one might have when making marginal
istinction assessments, you will come away with a benign but discerning
onclusion. If you review the matters/bills that Clinton, Obama, and
dwards
ave
ffered votes on in the senate, (not the ones Obama and Clinton
onveniently
bsented themselves on for expediency sakes), you can draw important
emographic information from their affect on Americans, both in quantity
nd
uality
hat has brought me to the conclusion that Edwards is a more valuable
hange to
more Americans than either Obama or Clinton. I had also come to the
onclusion that Obama will be a more valuable change to immigrant Americans
han
ither Edwards or Clinton, and that Clinton is the hungriest of them all to
ecome President. Take a look at how many bills Obama and Clinton absented
hemselves from voting on and find out what those bills are. Then look at
he
ills
ll three voted on and you will notice that Edwards never absented himself
rom voting on critical and significant matters as well as those matters
hat
re politically inexpedient to vote on. A solid human.Let us know how your
eview looks like.
"Also, I do not think that there is any indication that Obama beileves in
eligion as other than a moral compass." Jabou.
Probably not and I did not qualify Obama's belief in that realm. I shared
dwards' belief in the realm.
bama had recognized the value of religious congregations and the almost
omplete patronage of evangelists by Republicans. Given his political
ndustriousness, he embarked on a campaign to wrest a slice of this section
f
ociety
rom Republicans and rightly so. I happen to believe that you neither court
or discount the religious evangelist vote. You allow them to choose
ithout
iving the facade of their participation as a group in governance and
dministration of the state. An active campaign to woo them trends too
losely
o
uid-pro-quo and if you do not deliver their perceived quid, they can
everely
align your administration. Only a seasoned governor and policy-maker can
ecognize these subtle flaws in character. Because as you know, the
vangelists
are active voters and they vote in order to skew public policy in favour of
heir religion. They do not hide their intentions and motives. It takes a
trong character to resist the temptation to maligned judgement. When you
sk
bama, he frames his responses this way:
We have to show America that Democrats too care about religion". That
tatement itself says a lot about his dispensation. Jabou, I know that you
re a
devout muslim. Have you ever felt like you have to show me and Suntou and
alanding how much you care about Islam? If you begin to run for President,
nd
you then embark on an active campaign to show us how much you care about
slam,
hether that is good or not, would it not give me pause in distinctions? Our
riend Ousman shared that Obama fought for the downtrodden in the south side
f Chicago. I will share more on this later but that southside vote was
hat
ained Obama the state seat against an incumbent democrat, also African
merican. When you delve deeper into Obama's activities in South Chicago,
ou
ill come to the realisation that there are other communities in Chicago
hat
ere down-trodden for one reason or the other. But Obama chose these other
own-trodden people of South Chicago. Edwards running as senator in North
arolina fought for the down-trodden in other areas of North Carolina,
outh
arolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Massachussetts, Alabama, and
alifornia.
peak with Jimmy Carter and ask him to share his views on Obama and
dwards. He
will tell you he loves both of them but that Edwards is more valuable to
ll
merica than Obama. It is not because Edwards is white and more Americans
re white that is why we say this. It is because of the quality of his
alues
nd since African Americans are disproportionately disenfranchised in all
tates, they received the value of Edwards' efforts more than Whites.
dwards
oes not apologise for that. When the question arose in one of the debates
bout
bama being black and Clinton being a woman, John Edwards responded, and in
ublic, that whoever does not vote for Obama because he is black, or
linton
ecause she is a woman, he, John Edwards does NOT want your vote. Now the
ntrained eye will view this as political suicide and indeed it costed
dwards
ome white support because they began labelling him as an angry candidate.
f
ourse they cannot make a distinction between anger and passion and half of
hose idiots belong in an insane asylum anyways, we just don't have a
omprehensive mental health intitution in the US that is why some of these
etards
ind their way on talk shows and radio programs and TV interviews. Obama
as a
een eye on the Presidency, has had even before the "grassroots downtrodden
dvocacy" in SOuth Shitown.
"As for being beholden to corporate America, well, all American presidents
re somewhat beholden to corporate America, and the difference is perhaps
ust
matter of degrees." Jabou.
Let us say you are right in the immediate above. You are therefore
dmitting
hat corporate America does command inordinate and a formidable power to
oerce American Presidents. The same will therefore be true of Evangelic
merica. Now Edwards actually challenged the powers of corporate America in
he
court of law and won overwhelmingly. He therefore helped stem the cancer in
orporate America and enhanced the good in it for the prosperity of America.
n
his campaign speeches when he ran with Kerry and now, he has always served
otice that he is immune to corporate control, no matter how formidable that
ay
be. And another thing. I think your recognition that both Edwards and Obama
ill represent refreshing change in the American Presidency gives you hope
hat
the two will be different from past American Presidents. We all therefore
ake solace in the idea of an Edwards or Obama Presidency. You will however
gree with me that in America, Just being President does not innoculate the
rdinary American from the relentl;ess onslaught of Pharmaceutical and
ther
orporate interests. We must therefore go further than just the Presidency
f
t
s the refreshing change we are really interested in. It has come to light
hat most of Obama's advisors are leftover Clinton advisors. You may
emmember
hen one of those advisors disrespectfully tried to malign the former
resident Bill Clinton. And Obama shared with us that the former Clinton
dvisor was
peaking of his past relations with Bill Clinton and therefore he, Obama is
ot privy to that and cannot say anything on it. And the former Clinton
dvisor is now an Obama advisor. Discernments. I also would like our
rother
nd
riend Ousman to share with us one tangible value accrued from Obama's
campaign for down-trodden votes in south SHitown". It is evident that the
nited
teel workers of America, The united Mine Workers of the same nation, The
arpenters Union, and many more see more value in John Edwards than Obama,
linton, or other. Is there a national union of the un-employed of South
hicago? We
ay be presented with mirages of "grassroots campaign for votes" and
grassroots conscientious advocacy".
"Having said that, Obama has spoken out against the insurance companies who
re at the top of the food chain when it comes to corporate America because
hey own just about everything." Jabou.
Exactly my point Jabou. First, you should never speak against any corporate
r individual interest because they own just about everything. That is the
rong impetus. Now John Edwards did not stop at speaking out against rogue
orporate policies, he challenged them in courts on the behalf of Americans
nd
overcame their enormous powers. He is only a lawyer as was Obama. Has Obama
iled suit against any rogue corporate policy on the behalf of the common
merican? Those insurance companies he "spoke out against", has he
hallenged
hem
n a court of law on the merits or demerits of his disdain of them? Obama
as head of the Harvard Law Review. If Obama finds himself in a situation
here
vote-counting can yield a loss of his election to a Republican candidate,
hat do you think will happen? What do you think Obama will do?
"You are right, I like both Edwards and Obama, and I think that Edwards is
reat candidate, but I do not think that he will win the primaries." Jabou.
I think you are looking at the polls of those who view Edwards as an angry
andidate. Look deeper and follow the citizens of Iowa, New Hampshire,
outh
arolina, and Nevada. We are talking about primaries aren't we???? Check
round your neck of the woods around Cleveland Tennessee, Chattanooga,
emphis,
ashville, Jackson, Milan, etcetera. Let us know what you find out.
"He is good but America sees him as having been part of the old
stablishment even if only because he ran before." Jabou.
I know you're just being sarcastic here. Who among all candidates,
epublican or Democratic, has not been part of the old Establishment. Don't
e
wayed
y cliches of these lunatics who fell through the administrative cracks for
ack of enough space at rehab.
"I think Obama on the other hand stands a very good chance of winning the
rimaries and Americans are angry enough at the republicans so that none of
heir candidates stands a chance in the national elections, no matter who
hey
re." Jabou.
Indeed Jabou. I agree with you. Obama does stand a very good chance of
inning at least one of the primaries if not all. As far as the anger of
mericans
t Republicans, I presume you share that all the democratic candidates
tand
qual chances when pitted against a Republican. We can all cherish that but
et us focus for now on the voting democrats for the democratic primaries.
hat we are trying to discern is "EDwards, Obama, or Clinton, who represents
he
most valuable and desirable change for Democratic Americans". After the
rimaries, we will change our effort by removing the word democratic from
ur
uery.
"So a wonderful and winning strategy for Democrats this time would be an
bama/Edwards ticket." Jabou.
That wouldn't be a bad ticket either. If that ends up being the ticket it
ould be formidable. It will be more formidable against the Republicans in
ll
f America if it turns out to be Edwards-Biden, Edwards-Clinton,
dwards-Obama, or Edwards-Gore. What do you think????
"Together, they can restore the hopes of the people and make great headway
owards reversing the damage that the last 8 years of a Bush
dministration
as done" Jabou.
Anything is a refreshing change from the last 8 years of cluelessness.
"Thanks for providing the link to Ousman's blog, I had not known of it
efore. As for Andrew Young Ousman, he dances to the music of corporate
merica
and so he has to pay the piper so no surprises there. He has now made a
areer
f leading the pillagers and plunderers into Africa. Dr King is no doubt
urning in his grave." Jabou.
This is not fair. I have contributed in forming a comprehensive alliance
gainst my person and Edwards' person. This is not fair Jabou and Ousman.
he
wo of you simply are too overwhelming even if I summon the entire essence
f my
very being. Please have mercy on me from here on in or pledge not to gang up
gainst me and Edwards.
"Jabou"
What Friggin-ever. You mean Jabou and Ousman, don't you?? Whew. New
ambians!!
Haruna.
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rom: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
o: [log in to unmask]
ent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26 pm
ubject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
Jabou, you know you are beautiful. I can never get upset at you.
I think you like both John Edwards and Obama, but that you like Obama more
ecause his election will represent much needed change.
Would you consider that the election of John Edwards will also represent
hange?
The work therefore is in discerning between John Edwards and Obama, who is
he more desirable change!!!
Now, like you about John Edwards, I like Obama a lot because I think he is
rilliant, popular, and his election will give hope to a lot of Immigrant
mericans.
John Edwards not only represents hope for more Americans than Obama, he has
hown the value of the change that he may accrue us. I have not had the
pportunity to witness a sampling of Obama's change except that he looks
ifferent
rom past presidents.
John Edwards' One America Foundation offers some hope.
ohn Edwards' rebuilding efforts in the Lower Ninth ward offer hope in what
merica can be.
ohn Edwards fought with Huge corporate outfits on the behalf of regular
nd
ommon Americans, and John Edwards and Obama are both lawyers.
enator John Edwards of North carolina will get dirty for you and with you.
orth Carolina used to be the home of Senator Jesse Helms.
ohn Edwards enjoys enormous peer support and the most endorsements from
emocratic governors of states than either Obama or Clinton.
ohn Edwards is more electable across the United states than any candidate
urrently seeking the presidency, Republican or Democrat. Check the stats.
ibby Edwards is beautiful and is not beholden to corporate America. Mrs.
bama is beautiful but may be beholden to corporate America. She sits on
he
board of Walmart.
ohn Edwards is handsome and is not given to religious distinctions nor
oes
e believe religion ought to be mixed with governance. John Edwards
elieves
n Religion as moral and ethical compass, not administrative compass.
Obama is good. John Edwards is more valuable to all America. Edwards-Obama
ay be formidable. What do you think my dear? Lemme know, Lemme know!! You
now
usman is an Obama-head!!! Don't you??
Your friend and colleague Haruna.
In a message dated 12/13/2007 8:40:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Haruna,
I both like and have a great deal of respect for John Edwards and his wife
lizabeth for many reasons, some of which are mentioned below. However,
m
n Obama supporter myself. I also think Obama has a better chance of
eing
lected because among other things, he is seen as the "change" candidate
y
country that desperately needs change and Hillary ain't it. Infact, I
hink Hillary has turned into a "snake oil sales lady" and she is
verything to
everyone in her zeal to be president and I do not trust her at all and the
est of the country is beginning to see through her. I think that Edwards'
est
shot will be as a V.P for Obama. I think together they would make an
wesome
eam.
ow, now, don't get too upset.
abou
----Original Message-----
rom: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
o: [log in to unmask]
ent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 6:49 pm
ubject: I wish to share John Edwards with you:
e just concluded another conference call with David Medina, the national
ampaign director for John Edwards.
We are excited about the prospects for a John Edwards Presidency. We are
leased to have the support of Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover in South
arolina. Our gratitude to the United Steel workers Union, The Mine
orkers
Union,
he Carpenters Union, and Friends of the Earth Action Network. I am proud
f
ohn Edwards' performance in the just concluded democratic candidate
ebate
ponsored by the Des Moines Register. John Edwards is humble, intelligent,
nd
tands up for the Common American even on unpopular issues. He has vision
nd
haracter, attributes that are extremely valuable to American foreign
olicy
nd stature in the world.
We would like volunteers to assist in South Carolina, Iowa, Nevada, and
ew
Hampshire. We also wish to ask for your financial support if your time
ill
ot allow volunteering. Please visit us at _http://www.johnedwards.com_
http://www.johnedwards.com) and thank you for your support and company
oward
ne-America.
Haruna.
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