Binneh,
Joe heard you talking in our Radio Tam Tam interview. What a nonsence is he peddling here again? This man is sick!
Elhadj.
----- Original Message -----
From: Binneh S Minteh
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [Fwd: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM SAVES/YUS]
Joe,
I just want you to understand that i am not Essa sey. Ask Ousman Gajigo he knows me and he can telll you that i am not Essa sey. I spoke to him yesterday and he fully knows that i am not essa.
Binneh s Minteh
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2004 4:40 pm
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM SAVES/YUS]
> No Jabou, I dugged nothing. Read below. After all Binneh is Essa
> Sey. The
> moment he was threatened to be exposed he requested to be
> unsubscribed. Now
> if Binneh is Former Ambassador Essa Sey, are you going to now lie
> that you
> do not know Binneh? You guys High Fived here a zillion times before.
> Please read below. Jabou, You shall be exposed for what you are.
> It'scoming.
>
>
> >From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: [Fwd: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S NEPOTISM AND
> TRIBALISM>SAVES/YUS]
> >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:30:19 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM
> >SAVES/YUS
> >From: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Date: Wed, April 7, 2004 4:15 pm
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
> ><[log in to unmask]> ]
> >
> >
> >Ebrima:
> >I figure when Essa Bokarr Sey pulled out the tribal card then all
> bets>were off, and it became OK to expose him. I'll be damned if
> he tears us
> >apart with his terrible ethnic agenda.
> >
> >This poster is not Binneh Minteh but rather none other than ex-
> Ambassador>Essa Bokarr Sey.
> >
> >Here is to one Gambia!
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Yusupha
> >
> >
> >--- EBRIMA TAMBA <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by EBRIMA TAMBA
> ><[log in to unmask]> ]
> >
> >
> >Yus,
> > The dude decided to unsubscribe: What a shocker,
> >did you just scare him away...Well Dawg!! gotta tell
> >you. You need to put the icing on the cake by telling
> >us who this dude really is. I know there was something
> >spooky about this guy. So his real name is not Binneh?
> >Who the heck is this guy then. Don't tell me I've been
> >blind sided all these months by some psychotic ilk.
> >Boy i love this forum.....George you're a frikkin
> >genius for creating such a noble medium of dialogue.
> >I'll holler back.....peace.
> >
> >--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > > Binneh:
> > > With all due respect, stop the misinformation. How
> > > many times do we have to tell you that you are
> > > comparing apples and oranges here? The pre-genocide
> > > signs in Rwanda were far different from what is
> > > going on in The Gambia right now. In fact, there
> > > are few parallels.
> > >
> > > What is it going to take to hammer into your skull
> > > the fact that you are completely wrong on this one?
> > > There are some ver well educated folks on this list
> > > and continuing along this misguided slant will
> > > simply serve to hasten your quick slide down into
> > > the cesspool of those who cannot be trusted, not
> > > that you have not done this yet by your association
> > > with shady characters. Oh, I forgot, you were
> > > associated with these shady characters b4 you
> > > changed your monicker.
> > >
> > > I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a while but
> > > I will be paying very close attention to you. Think
> > > carefully b4 you post anything! If you continue
> > > down this slippery slope, I will expose you for who
> > > you are -- i mean your real name!
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Yuspha
> > >
> > > --- Binneh S Minteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> > > From: Binneh S Minteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 12:54:24 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S
> > > NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM
> > > SAVES THE GAMBIA.
> > >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >Ousman,
> >
> > Thanks for your analysis on the
> >whole tribal issue but like i said to you yesterday,
> >this is an open forum and it is a forum for Gambians
> >to speak there mind. The main reason why i came up
> >with the tribalism issue is because it is something
> >that is currently affecting Gambians on the ground and
> >it is therefore a sensitive issue to be ignored.
> >
> > It is the responsibility of
> >each and every Gambian to address problems that are
> >directly having an impact on our society, and to find
> >out ways and means of dealing with the situation. As a
> >Gambian citizen, it is therefore incumbent upon me to
> >bring forward such situations so as to avoid history
> >repeating itself.
> >
> > Gambia is a small country and
> >we are all more or less inter-related.We must not
> >encourage any person or persons, government or
> >governments that will divide us and inculcate
> >tribalistic sentiments amongst us. It is true that you
> >know my family and that we are all from Fatoto, but
> >it should still be our responsibility to agree to
> >disagree when it comes to national matters..
> >
> > The situation in the Gambia as
> >have always said is worth addressing, not only in this
> >forum but under the banner of the United Nations and
> >many other international organizations to avoid an
> >ethnic or civil war.Considering the composition of
> >many organs of the Jammeh Government including the
> >security and armed forces, almost all strategic
> >positions are manned by Jammehs tribes men.In the
> >armed forces for example, most of the commissioned and
> >non- commissioned officers are Jammehs tribesmen (his
> >kinsmens in particular). This is a growing concern for
> >many in the security forces, causing many to either
> >resign or be in a total state of dissatisfaction and
> >discontentment. Such was the situation in liberia
> >during the Samuel Doe era. I still have many sources
> >within the Gambian Armed forces ousman.
> >
> > When it come to the question of
> >Gambia turning in to another Rwanda, it does not
> >neccessarily mean it is going to happen overnight, and
> >we as Gambians are not praying for that either,but it
> >is just cautioning the authorities and the
> >International community . The signs in Rwanda before
> >the Genocide and the signs in the Gambia now are the
> >same.In the Gambia we see Jolas using matchets,knives
> >and other things to show other tribes that they are
> >spiritually powerful and that is appealing which is
> >fuelling hidden reactions within other circles back
> >home.Those who were killing in Rwanda also used
> >matchets,axes and believed that they had spiritual
> >power. Research centers like the CODESRIA in Dakar and
> >other bodies that specialise in such research programs
> >have already filed their findings and their hypothesis
> >point fingers towards The Gambia as a breeding ground
> >of ethnic conflicts. These are some of the reasons why
> >the situation is worth addressing.
> >
> > By using the word "JOLA" does
> >not neccessarily mean one is singling them out or have
> >anything against them. I dont have anything agaisnt
> >any ethnicity. As i have always said, people of this
> >universe should learn to live and love one another
> >regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, culture and
> >social background. OPTV is there fore warning that
> >the tribal tendencies in major governmental
> >institutions be addressed and something be done
> >about it before it is too late.
> >
> > Once again brother ousman i
> >thank you for your insights and thoughts and hopefully
> >we will find a solution to the current situation in
> >The Gambia.I would like to conclude by thanking you
> >for appreciation of my good use of the post, but this
> >very situation thus exist in The Gambia.
> >
> >
> >
> >Binneh s Minteh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822
> > > Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 20:31:13 -0700
> > > From: Ousman Gajigo <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: [>-<] WHY TALKING ABOUT YAHYA'S
> > > NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM SAVES THE
> > > GAMBIA.
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
> >"Ousman Gajigo" ]
> >Let in jump in on this tribalism discussion, which has
> >now degenerated into something that the original
> >contributors hasn't anticipated.
> >
> >I have started being uncomfortable ever since Binneh
> >started reporting on the tribalism of Yahya Jammeh.
> >Putting aside the question of Jammeh's tribalist
> >tendencies, I'm totally unconvinced that conflating
> >the issue of tribalism (a very important phenomenon
> >worth discussing) and the urgent problem of replacing
> >the current regime is the right way to go. These two
> >issues are very important but different in their own
> >ways. Tribalism has been with us since time immemorial
> >and will be here (in various forms) when Jammeh's
> >government is gone. Economic prosperity may lessen it
> >but it will not eradicate because in-group affinity
> >(sometimes at the expense of others in other groups -
> >nepotism) is a very human attribute.
> >
> >As others have pointed out here before, most of
> >Jammeh's supporters, henchmen, apologists, etc. are
> >members of other ethnic groups. After all, Jolas make
> >up only 10% of our population and never really
> >dominated the economic or political life of Gambia
> >disproportionately. As difficult as it's for me to
> >admit, I have family members working for Jammeh's
> >government. I know Binneh Minteh personally and know
> >many members of his family. I'm pretty certain that
> >Binneh didn't bring up this issue to inflame public
> >attitude against all Jolas but once you let the cat
> >out of the bag, it's extremely difficult to control
> >it. We now have to sit and listen to Jabou's
> >incredulous theory of a Greater Jola State, spanning
> >Gambia to Guinea Bissau (not to mention the recent
> >shameless attacks on Joe Sambou by her and other shady
> >characters). The problem with such an irresponsible
> >theory is not that it maybe true - I seriously doubt
> >it is - but that people of other ethnic groups who
> >start to bel!ieve such an outlandish claim will likely
> >feel threatened and will not restrict their animus at
> >Jammeh but all Jolas. It doesn't take a genius to
> >notice the direction this debate has taken once
> >tribalism got welded into it. This forum consist of a
> >few select group and I would like to think that we
> >consider ourselves here educated and all. With the
> >presence and abundance of opportunistic fellows
> >anywhere, imagine how vicious such a debate could
> >escalate into if it were to take place at the national
> >level.
> >
> >As bad as Jammeh's actions and the situation on the
> >ground are, Gambia is VERY farm from turning into
> >another Rwanda. As both Godlessgambian and Yusupha
> >pointed out, the factors that led to the genocide in
> >Rwanda are totally different from what we are now
> >witnessing at home. As I said before, I believe Binneh
> >is providing valuable service to us with his post but
> >it's important to confine inferences and conclusions
> >to within reason.
> >
> >We have an abundance of issues with which to club
> >Jammeh's government. Tribalism, with all its emotional
> >baggage and potential to start a whole new set of
> >problems is far from being one of the optimal course
> >of actions to embark on.
> >
> >Ousman
> >
> >Disclaimer: My father is Fula and my mother is
> >Mandingo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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