Mr. Dampha and Gambia-l,
Usually the list managers warn people privately if they feel that a member
should be warned and this is exactly what Malanding had done. He sent a copy of
the mail for the list managers to the subscriber in question in order to show
that he is not doing any thing behind his back.

Every email sent to the Gambia-l by subscribers are instantly received by all
members subscribed on Gambia-l and on the web-interface without the
interference of Listmanagers so what harm can an APRC sympatiser listmanager
do? Perhaph I need to be educated on that.

Remember that Gambia-l is an open forum and anyone with an access to the
internet and an e-mail account can be a member. List managers are not here to
double check on any subscriber who sends a request of joining the List. We do
not see the list as a political forum and for only APRC, UDP, NRP or PDOIS?

Knowing that Gambians are generally not democratic by nature, we should use
this service to its maximum in order to learn to be democratic. This is one of
the reasons that the list managers are giving everyone the chance to be heard
without removing anyone just because they have violated once in a while one of
the rules by "Personal attacks and name calling directed to individuals, groups
and/or organizations".

I am sure you already know that any list manager can remove any subscriber from
the list at any time but that would defeat the purpose of the Gambia-L.

On the issue of Ebrima Ceesay joining Gambia-l peepers, I think you should
write to him and ask him his reason. I have not seen him sign off from the list
yet.

Hamjatta, you can call us self appointed Ayatollahs but you should also
remember that Gambia-L is not a club but a service that is open to ALL Gambians
and those interested in Gambian related issues.

I hope I made myself clear even though I am not using The Queen of England's
english. Danish is may daily language of communication:-)

I am re-posting the Gambia-L Rules below, once again for everyone and hope that
we all try our best in order to make good use of Gambia-l.

Momodou Camara

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of  language on the list.

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the offender, and Gambia-L managers stating the objection, and sufficiently
identifying the offending posting.

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 with an apology and promise not to repeat the offence, or refute the
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LIST MANAGERS.

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On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:42, Dampha Kebba wrote:

> First of all, Prof. Assan, I beg you like I did to other subscribers before, not
> to 'delist' your self. Then, the forces of evil will win. Let the Managers
> 'delist' you if they think that is the right thing to do. Again, please
> reconsider your decision.
>
> For the List Managers (or their self-appointed spokesmen), I am sending this
> message in order for us to avoid a maelstrom on G_L. Your unfair handling of the
> 'Alieu Keita' saga might have cost this forum the invaluable contributions
> Ebrima Ceesay's Sources were making to this struggle. I cannot speak for Ebrima
> and I do not profess to know his real reason for not posting to G_L anymore. But
> judging from the timing of Ebrima's departure and the way 'Alieu Keita' was
> handled, one can easily argue that the List Managers' behavior contributed to
> why Ebrima left.
>
> This might have been inadvertent on the side of the List Managers; i.e. it
> was nobody's wish that we lose Ebrima and his Sources. On the other hand, it
> might have been a deliberate ploy on the part of closet Yaya supporters to try
> and silence the brother. Well, if the latter is the case, let me save you some
> time and effort. Trust me that it is nobody's interest that I be alienated the
> way Ebrima was. I do not plan to unilaterally 'delist' myself; neither do I plan
> to allow myself to be 'delisted' without a fight. I will go further than that
> and say that I will not sit silent and let List Managers pick on people that
> support my views.
>
> What is going on here? Is it now more acceptable to List Managers for people to
> come here and tell vicious and unsubstantiated lies about people. When Jobe was
> calling me names and not substantiating his rhetoric, did I hear List Managers
> counseling him to stop lying about me? Why do you always have to jump on people
> that are attacking Yaya supporters back and giving them a dose of their own
> medicine? Why did you have to pick on Prof. Assan to remind us of decorum in
> this forum? Are you trying to silence the brother? We all know the rules. If you
> feel that someone has violated the rules, have the guts to step to the plate and
> discipline that individual. But you would not do that because you know that once
> you start applying the rules, you have to apply them uniformly. So, instead you
> use these kinds of subtle tactics, hoping that people will lose their tempers
> and voluntarily 'delist' themselves. Give us a break. In my book LIES are worst
> than whatever Prof. Assan has said. List Managers condone lies from APRC but are
> eager to jump on people that want to jump into the gutter with APRC. If jumping
> into the gutter is the offense here, then admonish both parties. Not just the
> people that are attacking APRC.
>
> I beg the pardon of List Managers that do not subscribe to Jaiteh's ideas
> and also did not partake in the dirty tricks that were employed on Ebrima
> Ceesay. I was just using the phrase 'List Managers' for ease of reference.
> As for Jaiteh, I frankly do not get you. Is Lalo (who has been kidnapped and
> falsely accused by this illegal government), your brother? This is not a
> rhetorical question. I really want to know, because it might help me understand
> some of the positions you take on G_L. KB
>

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