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Lams , I referred you to my postings for details.Secondly I am not
interested to know anything about OGIS otherwise I would have paid my
membership as I used to before being told .
                Thanks          Darboe



----- Original Message -----
From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"


> Brother Darboe,
>                It is ok to give up hence one cannot defend the
> undefensible.I never call for a debate,it is only you who took it upon
> yourself to defend Mr. minister sarjo jallow or what you call "who
destroyed
> OGIS" , and yet you  cannot refute what i wrote.
> To make myself clear, I claimed that jallow took a leading role in the
> destruction of the Gambian Organization.You disagreed with that claim if I
> understand you correctly,but you never prove me wrong despite all you
claim
> of having facts.All you did was pointing an accusing finger to some people
> who you dare not even to identify.You end up by saying "iīm not interested
> to debate with you about matters which you donīt have facts...".Who ask
you
> to debate,is it not you who claim to have facts?My good brother ,what are
> you talking,which lamin are you talking about?Have I mention such name?I
> said that the jallow guy was organising on the ethnic basis.Where have I
> mention that he organize on fulla ethnic bases.I am a Gambian enough to
know
> that Danial Jatta and Alagi Jammeh are more likely to be a Jolla speaking
> people than a fulla.You said that you are not defending minister
> jallow-find.I am yet very surprise that it is only you who is concern and
> responded.Is it because that you are the only honest one in the list from
> sweden who knows Mr. jallow and want to clear his (jallow) name?Or is it
> that you are trying to compensating Mr.jallow for patronizing you during
> your holidays in the Gambia.It is easy to said I will not be bought, but
the
> recent by elections in badibou and kain is a great lesson to be learnd.If
> poor peasants who are by large the worst victims of jammehīs madness can
be
> bought,who cannot without the strong political and moral conscience.And I
> doubt a pal who is allowed to be "ride on"at the state expensive is
> exceptional.
> Brother Darboe,with all the due respect,I am starting to believe that your
> irritation on this issue is far beyond that of the Gambia
> organization.So,what is the problem ,brother?If one cannot vomit the
> truth,then one should keep quite when others are talking, isnīt Brother?
> There is no doubt in my mind that your friend Sarjo Jallow contributed a
lot
> to  destroyed both the Gambian organization in sweden,moja-g sweden and
the
> jailing of  Modou Dumo Saho.Prove me wrong if you can.Your friend Sarjo
> Jalow is the spokesman of this criminal government which is guilty of
> gunning down the unarm children.Who in his right senses will defend such
> people if one is not highhanded opportunist or criminal like them.If you
are
> not defend jallow,what have you to talk on this issue?If you want to talk
> about your"OGIS",please be my guest but dontīt try to denie or defend
> Jallowīs treacherous character.Jallow and all those who are in Jammehīs
> criminal cabinet are all criminals and history will not forgive them as
well
> as those who defend them.Brother,be watchful before you put yourself in
the
> lionīs den.
>   FC
>
>
> >From: Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:49:44 +0200
> >
> >Thank you  sister CF .I want to make myself clear to you that I'm not
> >interested to debate with you about matters which you don't have  facts
to
> >back up hence you  stated that you are far away from Stockholm .My point
of
> >disagreement  is  " it was not Sarjo who destroyed The OGIS ".For your
> >information , both Alhagie and Lamin are not Fulas .Secondly the one who
> >told you that I am a pious Muslim haven't said it all he should have
> >informed you that Darboe can't be bought .So Sister I still maintain my
> >point that I not interested in defending Sarjo but who destroyed The OGIS
> >.So being the case ,I want to debate with Gambians who were/are members
of
> >OGIS so that the real facts will come out .I say thank you for  your
> >efforts.
> >
> >
> >Darboe
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:45 PM
> >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> >
> >
> > > Brother Darboe,
> > > Thank you.If am not missing the point,we aren'tīt in total
> >disagreement,so
> > > let move to the points we canīt see eye to eye.
> > >
> > > You wrote."Ceesay Fatou , I can't agree to all that you wrote about
> >Sarjo
> > > .How could
> > > Sarjo destroyed The Gambian Organisation and now try to reorganise it
> > > through a brief visit ?  Can you source tell how many Fulas are in
> >Stockholm
> > > compared to Mandingos and Wallows ? Servo was among the few who
> >generated
> > > the resources of OGIS . The real people who destroyed that
Organisation
> >were
> > > the ones who misused over Half A Million Swedish Crowns we handed over
> >to
> > > them and are now pointing the finger to Sarjo .If they deny what I
write
> >,
> >I
> > > will defend it with facts because we know each other well .Please be
> > > reassured that I am in no way defending Sarjo but facts about OGIS."
> > >
> > >
> > > How comes,and why should I tell you how many fullas,mandingoes and
> >wollofs
> > > living in stockholm?Isnīt better for you to stated what you know hence
> >you
> > > have the facts?After all, isnīt better to ask me to explain what I
means
> > > when I wrote that minister jallow is trying to organize the Gambians
to
> >aprc
> > > on the ethnic bases?If that was the motive behind your question.I
> >maintain
> > > the position that jallow was organizing on ethnic bases.jallow was
> >trying
> >to
> > > organize people like Daniel Jatta,Alagi Jammeh etc ,and that is an
open
> > > secret that these character are renounced "ethnic nationalist".Hence
you
> > > have the facts was Mr..jallow,isnīt true that Jallow was at Gambian
> > > Organization meeting while in stockholm?What was he saying there and
his
> > > agendas?What is his relationship with the present committee especially
> >the
> > > sec.gen and the chairman?My good brother,it is good that you have the
> >facts
> > > ,i can learn from you.May i ask,what prompt you to handed over half a
> > > million to such people?Where were you(bread producers)when they were
> > > misusing the half a million?Who is more irresponsible,the one who
freely
> > > allowed his / her labour to be misused and the one who misused
it?Arenīt
> >you
> > > not also making the same finger pointing which you raised to me
> >.Brother,
> >I
> > > will limited myself to your own points and questions until  your next.
> > > Brother Darboe,of course you know each other there, but I will even go
> > > further to add that Gambia is too small and we know each other.And
> >Gambia
> >is
> > > all we all have,so we must defend her despite what.
> > > With the treacherous and patronizing skills of minister jallow,only a
> >strong
> > > moral and political consciousness will save one from not to be
carriage
> > > with.Jallow is in the habit of standby his state allocated car for his
> >pals
> > > from sweden who visited the Gambia.Hence you arenīt here to defend
> >minister
> > > jallow,I am with a believe that he have not managed silent you by
> >patronized
> > > you during your visit to the Gambia last year.I am told that you are
> >good
> > > and decent muslim who is after the truth, or is that not
> >correct-brother?
> > > FC
> > > Whoever defend the mouthpiece of the children killer must be guilty of
a
> > > crime
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:20:38 +0200
> > > >
> > > >Ceesay Fatou , I can't agree to all that you wrote about Sarjo .How
> >could
> > > >Sarjo destroyed The Gambian Organisation and now try to reorganise it
> > > >through a brief visit ?  Can you source tell how many Fulas are in
> > > >Stockholm
> > > >compared to Mandingos and Wallows ? Servo was among the few who
> >generated
> > > >the resources of OGIS . The real people who destroyed that
Organisation
> > > >were
> > > >the ones who misused over Half A Million Swedish Crowns we handed
over
> >to
> > > >them and are now pointing the finger to Sarjo .If they deny what I
> >write
> >,
> > > >I
> > > >will defend it with facts because we know each other well .Please be
> > > >reassured that I am in no way defending Sarjo but facts about OGIS.
> > > >
> > > >Darboe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:32 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > I am not very sure if Mr.Kebba Jobe is Mr.minister sarjo m jallow
or
> >not
> > > >but
> > > > > the fact is that Mr.minister jallow was(probably still)stockholm
> >Sweden
> > > >when
> > > > > Mr.jobe was surfacing in the g-l. Mr.minister was in stockholm
with
> >the
> > > >aims
> > > > > to reorganise the Gambian Organisation on his party platform,and
> > > >organise
> > > > > the Gambians to the aprc on ethnic bases.Mr jallow is very
> >treacherous
> > > >and
> > > >a
> > > > > big manipulator,who have played a leading role to destroyed the
> >Gambian
> > > > > Organisation in sweden.Manipulate and destroyed the moja-g breach
in
> > > >sweden,
> > > > > mixed-up moja pals and comrades to a level of enimity,helped to
put
> >his
> > > > > former comrade Dum Saho in the prison walls,dumped his old comrade
> > > >ousman
> > > > > manjang(immediately after the ministerial appointment) whose
asshole
> >he
> > > >is
> > > > > now planing to put behind the bars(prison).This jallow guy is very
> > > >sadist
> > > > > and dangerous man who will do everything to get to his goals.
> > > > > I have contacted lot of people who knows minister jallow inperson
> >and
> > > >they
> > > > > all agreed that he is a very treacherous guy and he might be
behind
> > > >mr.jobe
> > > > > but he is certainly not the writer because it has never been his
> >habit
> > > >to
> > > > > write articles.It is widely believed that mr. jallow is very good
in
> > > > > hiding,and he will do everything to aviod the limelight alone.
> > > > > Who knows,mr.jobe can be a woman with mr.jallowīs manipulation?But
> > > >believe
> > > > > me ,am doing a good homework on mr. minister jallow.
> > > > > Be it mr. jallow or not, history is on the side of the Gambian
> >people
> > > >versus
> > > > > jammeh(the children killer)&co.
> > > > > FC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:47:23 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jabou Joh, Ebou Colley, Ansumana Kujabi, Lameen Barrow,
M.L.Conteh
> >et
> > > >al.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >So many thanks to each and every one of you for your kind words
of
> > > >"welcome
> > > > > >back home again!!".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jabou:  I note your warning comments about the difficulties of
> >debating
> > > > > >with
> > > > > >members of the pro-Jammeh lobby.  Thank you for your words of
> >wisdom,
> > > >and
> > > > > >be
> > > > > >assured that I know what to expect! Did you get my messages on
your
> > > >anwswer
> > > > > >phone last week?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >M.L. Conteh:  I am glad to be back on the L.  Some (not all !)
> >Gambians
> > > > > >have
> > > > > >a tendency to narrow-mindedness and to wild speculation !!  God
> >knows
> > > >the
> > > > > >reason why I have been silent on the List recently, and this is
> >exactly
> > > >as
> > > > > >I
> > > > > >explained in my previous posting. I hope to be able to visit East
> >Coast
> > > > > >America before the end of the year, and shall look forward to
> >meeting
> > > >up
> > > > > >with you and other List members, especially my friend and good
> >brother,
> > > >the
> > > > > >great Kebba Dampha.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In fact, I should be very keen to share my research findings
> >vis-ā-vis
> > > >The
> > > > > >Gambia, with interested Gambian groups in the USA.  As for my
> > > >contribution
> > > > > >to the Opposition Fund, I shall see how I can send something to
Joe
> > > >Sambou
> > > > > >as soon as possible.  I shall also talk to Brother Alpha Robinson
> >who
> > > >was
> > > > > >coordinating the European Fund for the April 10/11th victims, and
> >see
> > > > > >whether it would be easier to contribute through him or through
> >Sister
> > > >Ndey
> > > > > >Jobarteh in London.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >By the way, I have noticed, reading through my mails,  that some
> >List
> > > > > >members are interested in reading satire, and as a result, as
from
> > > > > >tomorrow,
> > > > > >I have decided to spread my wings and indulge in this literary
> >sport
> > > >myself
> > > > > >!! With all the tensions and stresses of Gambian political issues
> >at
> > > >the
> > > > > >moment, I feel the need to express myself in a more jocular way
> >from
> > > >time
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >time !!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Actually, writing satire is something I did once in a while in
the
> > > >past,
> > > > > >but
> > > > > >from now on I shall also endeavour to contribute satirical
postings
> >on
> > > >the
> > > > > >L, from time to time.  Satire is an art-form which mirrors
reality
> >from
> > > >the
> > > > > >point of view of the writer, and I hope that my humble efforts
will
> >be
> > > > > >appreciated by some List members.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ebrima Ceesay,
> > > > > >Birmingham, UK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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