Joe:
I did not claimed to have known what your organization- STGDP is about; nor
have I made any stab to define it, in my postings. That assertion in your
respond to me was probably your own assumption. No qualms! You are entitled
to asserting your own views. My postings were more directed to my concern
about the incessant squabbling that we have all come to perceive both here
on the L and even beyond. In fact, the name STGDP came about as I attempted
to narrate to you what had prompted Mr. Conteh’s writings. And while I
agree with Lamine on the need for all of us to show tolerant and respect for
one another, I do not come here to speak for him. Oh no! no! no! Mr.
Conteh, I’m sure you and I both know, can handle his own fights. He does
not need me to take his place for him.
Yes my friend Joe, I was here when Conteh called you a snitch, and of
course, I couldn't disagree more with that characterization. It was
regrettable and I hope nothing of that nature happens again. However, the
incident perhaps should serve as a lesson for you to learn from, and I
would, based on that assessment, if in your place, evaluate myself. Ask
yourself what is it that you have said, done or is doing over the years to
warrant such a portrayal. May be you have given Lamine too many reasons to
look at you as mulish. May be the many fights you had with the very same
people you suppose to be in the same camp with, were reason enough for him
to dub you such.
On the question you posed on the naming of names of the STGDP members
alluded to in the previous posting, I would like to pass on these three
lines to you from my last email and that my friend is how far I’m prepared
to go.
“So while you have the right to disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must
also try to find out what happen between the NADD officials and your folks
at this meeting, and then you can go on with what ever you want to say”.
This may sound too much, but in the interest of avoiding further arguments
and confrontations, wouldn’t it be more prudent and wiser if you try and
find out for yourself what transpired in the meetings held from, New York,
to DC? You will be provided with first-hand information as to what occurred
between whom and where and then give yourself the opportunity to draw your
own conclusions as to the authenticity of what had been stipulated here.
I’m sure as a professional minded individual, you would not mind taking up
this responsibility.
And with this Mr. Sambou, I respectfully rest my case.
Lamin A.Tunkara.
>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along
>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:54:27 +0000
>
>Lamin thank you for you opinion and yes, we are in this struggle together.
>However, we are not in a struggle for divisiveness. The questions that
>both
>myself and Musa Jeng asked Conteh are still not answered. Where as you
>came
>to speak for Conteh, you also have not answered our question. If both
>yourself and Conteh believe in partnership, why did you not contact the
>STGDP and lodge your complains to them? We are just responding to what
>Conteh announced to the readership and we have no clue what he is talking
>about and whom he is talking about. This was brought in the open and it
>will be resolved in the open. To date you have not named the STGDP
>representative that you kept alluding to. That is unacceptable. Both of
>you are obligated to follow through and tell the readers whom you have in
>mind, and you need to do that where you announced your charge.
>
>Going back to Conteh, I'm sure you were here when he came and lied about me
>being an snitch for Yaya Jammeh and how I regularly visit the Gambian
>Embassy, my clandestine meeting with Tijan Ceesay, etc., in collaboration
>with other criminal minds and the only thing that vindicated me is time.
>Many folks here although doubted his fabrications, but Conteh piled on so
>much shit that one cannot help but give him the benefit of doubt. He and
>his conspirators used the ethnic card and it was nothing but ugliness.
>Conteh has been found by this readership to be a liar, thus if he shows up
>here to throw that same nonsense, he shall be told and it has nothing to do
>with getting along but to be truthful with each other as we struggle.
>
>STGDP is aware of the dynamics in North Carolina but we choose to focus on
>what we do best, work on behalf of Gambians and NADD. You did not hear us
>discuss the jockeying that obtains in your neck of the woods and some of
>the
>baseless charges against STGDP, only to see Conteh show up with his usual
>diet. I do no own Gambia and neither does STGDP, but we will not allow
>Conteh or any other to play games with our reputation. All we ask is for
>you to be specific with your charge and not throw generalities. It is also
>interesting that you seem to be defining an entire organization without
>knowing the organization and what they do. So, please, in the spirit of
>fairness and truth in narration, tell this readership whom among the STGDP
>representatives/leadership/coordinators/rank and file you are talking
>about.
> That is the right thing to do so the readership will be fully informed.
>Thanks for taking the time to make your case.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>>From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along
>>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 05:40:48 +0000
>>
>>
>>
>>Joe:
>>
>>The challenges we face today in the Gambia are bigger for one person to
>>handle. At this point in time, you need to reach out to people not create
>>enemies. Lamin Jasseh Conteh is one of the many people you need to work
>>with, if you want to see your wishes of a better Gambia come true. Like
>>STGDP, Lamin Jasseh Conteh is equally committed to seeing a thriving
>>Gambia. He is committed to seeing a Gambia where the respect for the rule
>>of law is upheld, a Gambia where freedom of speech is honored, and above
>>all, to a Gambia where we can work together as one, to further the
>>interest
>>of our nation.
>>
>>The dividing issue between you, some of the members of the organization
>>you
>>are speaking for, and Lamin as has been alluded to, in your postings, was
>>the way we conduct ourselves. When the NADD leadership visited the US a
>>month or so ago, they met with many people, organizations, including, I’m
>>sure your own STGDP. Many questions were asked of them out of humility
>>and
>>respect as to what these NADD reps plan to do to change the course of our
>>country. Unfortunately, a hard line approach was taken allegedly by some
>>members of the STGDP at one of these meetings as they
>>forcefully attempt to pressure the NADD reps, to name names as to whom
>>they
>>will chose as the flag bearer of the coalition. Accordingly, the exchange
>>between the parties became so heated, that a member of the NADD entourage
>>challenged these folks to return to Gambia and take up the
>>responsibilities
>>of the opposition if they (the alleged questioners) are not satisfied with
>>the way the coalition is handling things. My friend, yes, while it is our
>>right as citizens to ask questions about the direction of our nation, it
>>is
>>also imperative we understand and apply the right approaches in that
>>effort. I think our alleged friends at STGDP went a little too far in the
>>way they
>>conducted themselves at that meeting. Lamin’s previous postings were
>>directed to address such encounters and the need for all to understand
>>that
>>the time for such contentious encounters is not now.
>>
>>Of course Halifa Sallah or anyone of the NADD reps as matured and seasoned
>>politicians as they are, know better not to say any ugly things about the
>>people they need most. They have to say good things about STGDP and its
>>membership because those guys among many other people are the ones they
>>can
>>count on come election time. But what Halifa or any NADD rep is capable
>>of
>>doing is to listen and observe the kind of people they met with to equip
>>themselves with a better idea as to who they may be working with. And I
>>think that is exactly what they did. For some reason, they were
>>disappointed by the way they were treated by some of the people allegedly
>>your
>>own guys. If we behave like the know-alls, forceful and arrogant in
>>nature
>>we do ourselves a great disservice by leaving an unpleasant lasting
>>impression to those we come across. So while you have the right to
>>disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must also try to find out what happen
>>between the NADD officials and your folks at this meeting, and then you
>>can
>>go on with what ever you want to say. But also bear in mind that everyone
>>you can get to work with counts. Just like they need you to change the
>>Gambia for the better, you need them as well.
>>
>>Lamin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION
>>MONDAY
>>Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:43:58 +0000
>> >Momodou Lamin Jasseh-Conteh, please take note and read carefully
>> >what Halifa
>> >said about the STGDP you attempted to discredit. You obviously had
>> >lied
>> >about the quote you hung on Halifa and you ought to be ashamed of
>> >yourself.
>> >How many times will you show up here to lie about people? Are you
>> >that
>> >malicious and selfish? You need to really look within yourself, for
>> >you
>> >have done
>>a good job revealing the real Jasseh-Conteh to Gambians.
>> >When
>> >will your lies and misrepresentation and malice end?
>> >
>> >Chi Jaama
>> >
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >>From: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION
>> >>PETITION
>> >>MONDAY
>> >>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:41:24 -0400
>> >>
>> >>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
>> >><[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Finally Mr. Sallah, extended his thanks to Gambians at home and
>> >>abroad who
>> >>are helping to restore democracy in The Gambia. "This is a
>> >>tremendous
>> >>initiative from the beginning.
>>NADD have emerged and in
>> >>collaboration with
>> >>STGDP. We commend Gambians at home and in the diaspora for
>> >>supporting us
>> >>morally, materially and financially-this is the success of the
>> >>Gambian
>> >>people" Halifa noted.
>> >>
>> >>Congratulation to STGDP. You decided to walk the walk, and
>> >>continued
>> >>vigoroulsy to make a difference in the Gambia.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > From: panderry mbai <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Date: 2005/10/02 Sun PM 02:22:59 EDT
>> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Subject: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION
>> >>PETITION
>> >>MONDAY
>> >> >
>> >> > [input]
>> >> > NEWSGAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION
>>MONDAY
>> >> > IRIN NEWS-->BY PA NDERRY M'BAI and YERO JALLOW
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > October 2, 2005
>> >> > Hearing on an election petition filed by Gambia's opposition
>> >>coalition
>> >>NADD will begin on Monday 3RD October, at the High Court in The
>> >>Gambian
>> >>capital Banjul, The ALLGAMBIAN online Newspaper has been reliably
>> >>informed.
>> >> >
>> >> > The NADD leadership are challenging Thursday's electoral
>> >>outcome, which
>> >>was in favour of APRC candidate Sainey Mbye, who defeated incumbent
>> >>NRP
>> >>leader Hamat Bah. The opposition who resorted to court action are
>> >>charging
>> >>electoral fraud and would want the High Court to nullify Thursday's
>>
>> >>polling
>> >>results.
>> >> >
>> >> > In a petition filed in the High Court, the NADD leadership
>> >>adduced that
>> >>the Upper Saloum by election, which led to the defeat of Hamat Bah
>> >>was
>> >>characterised by massive electoral fraud and intimidation of its
>> >>supporters. They argue that the polls were not free and fair.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chief among their prayers according to our sources "is for a
>> >>fresh
>> >>elections be conducted in Upper Saloum and the current electoral
>> >>results on
>> >>Upper Saloum be declared null and void."
>> >> >
>> >> > The ALLGAMBIAN has learnt that the opposition had gathered
>> >>series of
>> >>evidence, which they intend to present in court to support their
>> >>case.
>> >>Sources say the
>>said high profile political case will attract both
>> >>local
>> >>and international attention, as the said polls were said to have
>> >>been
>> >>conducted under hostile political environment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Speaking to The ALLGAMBIAN, NADD Coordinator Halifa Sallah,
>> >>confirmed
>> >>about the said petition they filed in the High Court. Mr. Sallah
>> >>says they
>> >>thought it necessary to challenge what he called the electoral
>> >>"discrepancies" in Upper Saloum, where a lot of NADD supporters
>> >>suffered in
>> >>the hands of APRC militants.
>> >> >
>> >> > According to Mr. Sallah, NADD committee members were busy
>> >>assessing the
>> >>election results and they came to the conclusion that NADD
>> >>supporters
>> >>suffered in the hands of state
>>agents and APRC militants. He cites
>> >>the
>> >>incident in Bullock, Sibanor and Kalagi where NADD voters were
>> >>denied by
>> >>armed soldiers from traveling to Jarra West on polling day. Mr.
>> >>Sallah says
>> >>some of these voters couldn't vote on Thursday, as the soldiers
>> >>will not
>> >>allow them to cross the bridge at Kalagi. He also cited the
>> >>political
>> >>fracas in Njau where Hamat Bah and his convoy were attacked. "Chaos
>> >>have
>> >>been registered in upper Saloum, and there were a lot of illegal
>> >>voter
>> >>transfers" Halifa told The ALLGAMBIAN.
>> >> >
>> >> > The NADD coordinator also charged that local government leaders
>> >>such as
>> >>Chiefs, commissioners and others were used in disrupting the
>> >>election.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> > A jubilant Halifa Sallah talking about his return to Parliament
>> >>went on
>> >>to say "this is the verdict of the people." He also informed
>> >>AllGambian
>> >>that on their next meeting they will further analyse the election
>> >>results
>> >>and they will move on with their projects. "Everything will move on
>> >>and we
>> >>are building up a network" Halifa maintains.
>> >> >
>> >> > When asked about the feelings of Hamat Bah, following his defeat
>> >>Halifa
>> >>said "I spoke to him and he is in high spirit."
>> >> >
>> >> > Finally Mr. Sallah, extended his thanks to Gambians at home and
>> >>abroad
>> >>who are helping to restore democracy in The Gambia. "This is a
>> >>tremendous
>> >>initiative from the beginning. NADD have
>>emerged and in
>> >>collaboration with
>> >>STGDP. We commend Gambians at home and in the diaspora for
>> >>supporting us
>> >>morally, materially and financially-this is the success of the
>> >>Gambian
>> >>people" Halifa noted.
>> >> >
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