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 Kabir,
 
 I think Cornelius here knows the facts but he definitely has an agenda based on all we have seen from him so far. I would not waste time on him at all. Let us just watch him do his dance.
 
 Jabou Joh
    
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 Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 7:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Zimbabwe
 
  Are you serious? You think I give a damn who you are related to, whose 
 company you keep or what books you have read? What use is your familiarity 
 with colonial history or the books you have read when you cannot get a point 
 as simple as honouring an agreement signed at the dawn of independence to 
 return stolen land? 
 
 Keep on googling... At the end of the day if you haven't learnt better than 
 to take the side of a double-crossing thief you would not have come far. 
 
 To disregard the fact that thousand of families are suffering daily because 
 the economically powerful relatives of the thief gang up and demand that 
 unless the thief retains the stolen property they will strangulate their 
 small economy and make them continue to catch hell. 
 
 To disregard that fact that when the aggrieved party, after decades of 
 suffering they could tolerate no longer, mobilized to fight against their 
 oppressor thieves, got an agreement from the thieves and their relatives 
 that the stolen property will be returned only to be nakedly and shamelessly 
 double-crossed. 
 
 To side with the thief when a fight ensues over returning the stolen 
 property - a fight in the the thief is far more well-off than the victim and 
 does not even need the stolen property for his continued survival - but 
 continue to highlight and trumpet the fact that agents of the thieves have 
 been dealt broken noses and bruises. 
 
 When you cannot see beyond the broken noses and bruises and ask why the 
 parties are fighting in the first place, or when you are told why they are 
 fighting you elect to ignore the facts of history and bury your head in the 
 sand because for one reason or another you cannot fathom why Black people 
 would stand up for their rights, especially against Europeans. 
 
 That to me is to say that Black people are not equal or don't deserve the 
 same rights and treatment as all other people; that Black people should just 
 let Europeans continue to control their economies and be content with 
 whatever crumbs come their way. 
 
 If that is your justification for labelling me "Black Radical" you must be 
 the most clueless Black man that ever lived. Googling "Kabir" won't help 
 you; googling "Mugabe" won't help you either. Nor will highlighting all the 
 symptoms of the Zimbabwe crisis. Get to the bottom of the issue, the Land 
 Issue for which Zimbabweans shed their blood only for your idols to pull 
 this big double-cross that they have been making attempts for years to 
 camouflage with lies and deception. 
 
 That is what I am interested in. Robert Mugabe is just and individual. It is 
 the policies that he stands for that I support, it could have been any other 
 Zimbabwean for that matter. As far as they continue to demand the stolen 
 land back we are on the same page Your ilk have been so blinded by Western 
 progagand that you cannot see beyond the person of Mugabe at the bigger 
 picture: the rights of Zimbabweans to regain land that was stolen at gun 
 point; daylight robbery! 
 
 You can go to all the higher institutions of learning in the world, at the 
 end of the day if what you have learnt does not avail you the wherewithal to 
 recocnise injustice it would all have been in vain, naught! 
 
 So save yourself the trouble "Mr Hemelberg," for I don't see what you could 
 possibly come with to defend this indefensible act of deceit and betrayal. 
 The very reason you have been avoiding the point at the centre of this whole 
 saga, the land issue is that the land thieves and those fighting their 
 battles in all the international stage have not given you a plausible 
 justification to argue with. So unless you address the land issue I'm not 
 going to waste my time engaging you, for whatever you may come with I can 
 get from the source, your masters! 
 
 Kabir. 
 
 
 On 4/6/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]> 
 wrote: 
 > 
 > Kabir, 
 > 
 > http://www.statehouse.gm/tijankabbah-visit_030407.htm 
 > 
 > http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20055173.shtml 
 > 
 > I will give you the attention that you deserve, but right now, I'm 
 > otherwise 
 > engaged. I am familiar with (African )colonial history in some 
 > depth: India, 
 > North America, Australia, Algeria, Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Congo, 
 > Nigeria, Guinea, of course Zimbabwe, you name it and people like Walter 
 > Rodney and even the type of ideas that you are likely to find in the Race 
 > and 
 > History website. Apart from that I have kept the company of some of these 
 > people. So please excuse me for the next couple of hours and – respect - 
 > let 
 > me return to give you the answer that should engage you, so that although 
 > you may be Sir Mr. Black Radical, I won't let you down. 
 > My second brother (I have three) is married to a Zimbabwean whose mother 
 > is 
 > Boer from South Africa and whose father is Black and from Zimbabwe. 
 > 
 > http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/ 
 > 
 > Later. 
 > 
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