Haruna,
Too long winded so I will be brief.
Just a few important points
Edwards fought corporate America on behalf of his clients as a litigation attorney. When he won on behalf of those clients, he was paid very well for his efforts. He did not offer his services gratis when he sued those corporations. Perhaps you can share with us the major changes that came about as a result of Edwards winning these lawsuits.
Speaking of votes that have had a major impact on American lives, I would say none top that list more than the Iraq war and Edwards voted for the war and it has impacted American lives as well altered how America is viewed by the World forever.
Haruna, your amazingly harsh rhetoric against Obama is bordering on the "swift boat" strategy of the last elections. Careful, you don't want the angry label being made against your candidate to be true for his supporters.
Enough of negative campaigning already! Another reason why Obama is a breath of fresh air?
Have a good weekend.
Jabou
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
"Haruna," Jabou.
Yes Darling, how are you. I like the way you speak and what you say always.
You have an immensely powerful voice fertilized, as our friend Karim is wont
to drammatize, by prolific study, acumen, and measured tone. Any candidate
would like to have your support. I'm not giving up on Ousman either. I love him
very much. Just don't get any funny ideas Ousman.
"I do not know that what Edwards can represent to the American people is
not the same as what Obama will." Jabou.
I was under the same impressions too. Then I began a study of senators who
later run for President in a revolutionarily different way that reviews
marginal values. There is a wealth of information that when properly reviewed
or
reviewed in the directions of questions one might have when making marginal
distinction assessments, you will come away with a benign but discerning
conclusion. If you review the matters/bills that Clinton, Obama, and Edwards
have
offered votes on in the senate, (not the ones Obama and Clinton conveniently
absented themselves on for expediency sakes), you can draw important
demographic information from their affect on Americans, both in quantity and
quality
that has brought me to the conclusion that Edwards is a more valuable change to
more Americans than either Obama or Clinton. I had also come to the
conclusion that Obama will be a more valuable change to immigrant Americans
than
either Edwards or Clinton, and that Clinton is the hungriest of them all to
become President. Take a look at how many bills Obama and Clinton absented
themselves from voting on and find out what those bills are. Then look at the
bills
all three voted on and you will notice that Edwards never absented himself
from voting on critical and significant matters as well as those matters that
are politically inexpedient to vote on. A solid human.Let us know how your
review looks like.
"Also, I do not think that there is any indication that Obama beileves in
religion as other than a moral compass." Jabou.
Probably not and I did not qualify Obama's belief in that realm. I shared
Edwards' belief in the realm.
Obama had recognized the value of religious congregations and the almost
complete patronage of evangelists by Republicans. Given his political
industriousness, he embarked on a campaign to wrest a slice of this section of
society
from Republicans and rightly so. I happen to believe that you neither court
nor discount the religious evangelist vote. You allow them to choose without
giving the facade of their participation as a group in governance and
administration of the state. An active campaign to woo them trends too closely
to
quid-pro-quo and if you do not deliver their perceived quid, they can severely
malign your administration. Only a seasoned governor and policy-maker can
recognize these subtle flaws in character. Because as you know, the evangelists
are active voters and they vote in order to skew public policy in favour of
their religion. They do not hide their intentions and motives. It takes a
strong character to resist the temptation to maligned judgement. When you ask
Obama, he frames his responses this way:
"We have to show America that Democrats too care about religion". That
statement itself says a lot about his dispensation. Jabou, I know that you are a
devout muslim. Have you ever felt like you have to show me and Suntou and
Malanding how much you care about Islam? If you begin to run for President, and
you then embark on an active campaign to show us how much you care about Islam,
whether that is good or not, would it not give me pause in distinctions? Our
friend Ousman shared that Obama fought for the downtrodden in the south side
of Chicago. I will share more on this later but that southside vote was what
gained Obama the state seat against an incumbent democrat, also African
American. When you delve deeper into Obama's activities in South Chicago, you
will come to the realisation that there are other communities in Chicago that
were down-trodden for one reason or the other. But Obama chose these other
down-trodden people of South Chicago. Edwards running as senator in North
Carolina fought for the down-trodden in other areas of North Carolina, South
Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Massachussetts, Alabama, and
California.
Speak with Jimmy Carter and ask him to share his views on Obama and Edwards. He
will tell you he loves both of them but that Edwards is more valuable to all
America than Obama. It is not because Edwards is white and more Americans
are white that is why we say this. It is because of the quality of his values
and since African Americans are disproportionately disenfranchised in all
states, they received the value of Edwards' efforts more than Whites. Edwards
does not apologise for that. When the question arose in one of the debates
about
Obama being black and Clinton being a woman, John Edwards responded, and in
public, that whoever does not vote for Obama because he is black, or Clinton
because she is a woman, he, John Edwards does NOT want your vote. Now the
untrained eye will view this as political suicide and indeed it costed Edwards
some white support because they began labelling him as an angry candidate. Of
course they cannot make a distinction between anger and passion and half of
those idiots belong in an insane asylum anyways, we just don't have a
comprehensive mental health intitution in the US that is why some of these
retards
find their way on talk shows and radio programs and TV interviews. Obama has a
keen eye on the Presidency, has had even before the "grassroots downtrodden
advocacy" in SOuth Shitown.
"As for being beholden to corporate America, well, all American presidents
are somewhat beholden to corporate America, and the difference is perhaps just
a matter of degrees." Jabou.
Let us say you are right in the immediate above. You are therefore admitting
that corporate America does command inordinate and a formidable power to
coerce American Presidents. The same will therefore be true of Evangelic
America. Now Edwards actually challenged the powers of corporate America in the
court of law and won overwhelmingly. He therefore helped stem the cancer in
corporate America and enhanced the good in it for the prosperity of America. In
his campaign speeches when he ran with Kerry and now, he has always served
notice that he is immune to corporate control, no matter how formidable that may
be. And another thing. I think your recognition that both Edwards and Obama
will represent refreshing change in the American Presidency gives you hope that
the two will be different from past American Presidents. We all therefore
take solace in the idea of an Edwards or Obama Presidency. You will however
agree with me that in America, Just being President does not innoculate the
ordinary American from the relentl;ess onslaught of Pharmaceutical and other
Corporate interests. We must therefore go further than just the Presidency if
it
is the refreshing change we are really interested in. It has come to light
that most of Obama's advisors are leftover Clinton advisors. You may remmember
when one of those advisors disrespectfully tried to malign the former
President Bill Clinton. And Obama shared with us that the former Clinton
advisor was
speaking of his past relations with Bill Clinton and therefore he, Obama is
not privy to that and cannot say anything on it. And the former Clinton
advisor is now an Obama advisor. Discernments. I also would like our brother
and
friend Ousman to share with us one tangible value accrued from Obama's
"campaign for down-trodden votes in south SHitown". It is evident that the
United
Steel workers of America, The united Mine Workers of the same nation, The
Carpenters Union, and many more see more value in John Edwards than Obama,
Clinton, or other. Is there a national union of the un-employed of South
Chicago? We
may be presented with mirages of "grassroots campaign for votes" and
"grassroots conscientious advocacy".
"Having said that, Obama has spoken out against the insurance companies who
are at the top of the food chain when it comes to corporate America because
they own just about everything." Jabou.
Exactly my point Jabou. First, you should never speak against any corporate
or individual interest because they own just about everything. That is the
wrong impetus. Now John Edwards did not stop at speaking out against rogue
corporate policies, he challenged them in courts on the behalf of Americans and
overcame their enormous powers. He is only a lawyer as was Obama. Has Obama
filed suit against any rogue corporate policy on the behalf of the common
American? Those insurance companies he "spoke out against", has he challenged
them
in a court of law on the merits or demerits of his disdain of them? Obama
was head of the Harvard Law Review. If Obama finds himself in a situation where
vote-counting can yield a loss of his election to a Republican candidate,
what do you think will happen? What do you think Obama will do?
"You are right, I like both Edwards and Obama, and I think that Edwards is a
great candidate, but I do not think that he will win the primaries." Jabou.
I think you are looking at the polls of those who view Edwards as an angry
candidate. Look deeper and follow the citizens of Iowa, New Hampshire, South
Carolina, and Nevada. We are talking about primaries aren't we???? Check
around your neck of the woods around Cleveland Tennessee, Chattanooga,
Memphis,
Nashville, Jackson, Milan, etcetera. Let us know what you find out.
"He is good but America sees him as having been part of the old
establishment even if only because he ran before." Jabou.
I know you're just being sarcastic here. Who among all candidates,
Republican or Democratic, has not been part of the old Establishment. Don't be
swayed
by cliches of these lunatics who fell through the administrative cracks for
lack of enough space at rehab.
"I think Obama on the other hand stands a very good chance of winning the
primaries and Americans are angry enough at the republicans so that none of
their candidates stands a chance in the national elections, no matter who they
are." Jabou.
Indeed Jabou. I agree with you. Obama does stand a very good chance of
winning at least one of the primaries if not all. As far as the anger of
Americans
at Republicans, I presume you share that all the democratic candidates stand
equal chances when pitted against a Republican. We can all cherish that but
let us focus for now on the voting democrats for the democratic primaries.
What we are trying to discern is "EDwards, Obama, or Clinton, who represents the
most valuable and desirable change for Democratic Americans". After the
primaries, we will change our effort by removing the word democratic from our
query.
"So a wonderful and winning strategy for Democrats this time would be an
Obama/Edwards ticket." Jabou.
That wouldn't be a bad ticket either. If that ends up being the ticket it
would be formidable. It will be more formidable against the Republicans in all
of America if it turns out to be Edwards-Biden, Edwards-Clinton,
Edwards-Obama, or Edwards-Gore. What do you think????
"Together, they can restore the hopes of the people and make great headway
towards reversing the damage that the last 8 years of a Bush Administration
has done" Jabou.
Anything is a refreshing change from the last 8 years of cluelessness.
"Thanks for providing the link to Ousman's blog, I had not known of it
before. As for Andrew Young Ousman, he dances to the music of corporate America
and so he has to pay the piper so no surprises there. He has now made a career
of leading the pillagers and plunderers into Africa. Dr King is no doubt
turning in his grave." Jabou.
This is not fair. I have contributed in forming a comprehensive alliance
against my person and Edwards' person. This is not fair Jabou and Ousman. The
two of you simply are too overwhelming even if I summon the entire essence of my
very being. Please have mercy on me from here on in or pledge not to gang up
against me and Edwards.
"Jabou"
What Friggin-ever. You mean Jabou and Ousman, don't you?? Whew. New
Gambians!!
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: John Edwards/ Haruna
Jabou, you know you are beautiful. I can never get upset at you.
I think you like both John Edwards and Obama, but that you like Obama more
because his election will represent much needed change.
Would you consider that the election of John Edwards will also represent
change?
The work therefore is in discerning between John Edwards and Obama, who is
the more desirable change!!!
Now, like you about John Edwards, I like Obama a lot because I think he is
brilliant, popular, and his election will give hope to a lot of Immigrant
Americans.
John Edwards not only represents hope for more Americans than Obama, he has
shown the value of the change that he may accrue us. I have not had the
opportunity to witness a sampling of Obama's change except that he looks
different
from past presidents.
John Edwards' One America Foundation offers some hope.
John Edwards' rebuilding efforts in the Lower Ninth ward offer hope in what
America can be.
John Edwards fought with Huge corporate outfits on the behalf of regular
and
common Americans, and John Edwards and Obama are both lawyers.
Senator John Edwards of North carolina will get dirty for you and with you.
North Carolina used to be the home of Senator Jesse Helms.
John Edwards enjoys enormous peer support and the most endorsements from
Democratic governors of states than either Obama or Clinton.
John Edwards is more electable across the United states than any candidate
currently seeking the presidency, Republican or Democrat. Check the stats.
Libby Edwards is beautiful and is not beholden to corporate America. Mrs.
Obama is beautiful but may be beholden to corporate America. She sits on the
board of Walmart.
John Edwards is handsome and is not given to religious distinctions nor
does
he believe religion ought to be mixed with governance. John Edwards
believes
in Religion as moral and ethical compass, not administrative compass.
Obama is good. John Edwards is more valuable to all America. Edwards-Obama
may be formidable. What do you think my dear? Lemme know, Lemme know!! You
know
Ousman is an Obama-head!!! Don't you??
Your friend and colleague Haruna.
In a message dated 12/13/2007 8:40:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Haruna,
I both like and have a great deal of respect for John Edwards and his wife
Elizabeth for many reasons, some of which are mentioned below. However, I
am
an Obama supporter myself. I also think Obama has a better chance of
being
elected because among other things, he is seen as the "change" candidate
by
a country that desperately needs change and Hillary ain't it. Infact, I
think Hillary has turned into a "snake oil sales lady" and she is
everything to
everyone in her zeal to be president and I do not trust her at all and the
rest of the country is beginning to see through her. I think that Edwards'
best
shot will be as a V.P for Obama. I think together they would make an
awesome
team.
Now, now, don't get too upset.
Jabou
-----Original Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 6:49 pm
Subject: I wish to share John Edwards with you:
We just concluded another conference call with David Medina, the national
campaign director for John Edwards.
We are excited about the prospects for a John Edwards Presidency. We are
pleased to have the support of Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover in South
Carolina. Our gratitude to the United Steel workers Union, The Mine Workers
Union,
The Carpenters Union, and Friends of the Earth Action Network. I am proud
of
John Edwards' performance in the just concluded democratic candidate debate
sponsored by the Des Moines Register. John Edwards is humble, intelligent,
and
stands up for the Common American even on unpopular issues. He has vision
and
character, attributes that are extremely valuable to American foreign
policy
and stature in the world.
We would like volunteers to assist in South Carolina, Iowa, Nevada, and
New
Hampshire. We also wish to ask for your financial support if your time will
not allow volunteering. Please visit us at _http://www.johnedwards.com_
(http://www.johnedwards.com) and thank you for your support and company
toward
a
One-America.
Haruna.
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