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Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:59:31 +0100
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Hsamjatta,
If Ethopians  were able to deal with Mengestu are you saying that Gambians
will not be able to deal with a criminal like Samba Sanyang.Are you very
serious that it was ok for the Senegalise to invade,murder and occupy our
country ?Gambians who stod up against the Senegalises forces were from all
political parties and including supporters of the PPP regime ,they did not
do so because they hate their political parties but that it was a national
issue,and many who tok up arms were never involved or interested in
politics.I have no time now but I will have to come back to this issue
For Freedom
Saiks
----- Original Message -----
From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:45 PM
Subject: Jawara Was Very Right In Asking The Senegalese To Intervene!


> In a message dated 29/08/2001 08:58:49 GMT Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> > << It was an armed civil conflict brought upon the Gambia by Kukoi
> > Samba Sanyang: an ex-NCP parliamentary candidate and therefore when the
> > attempted dictatorship failed,some members of the come-back PPP regime
> > orchestrasted unjustifiable acts  of atrocities against some NCP
militants
> > and others who were percieved as supporters of the attemtpted
revolution.But
> > for the direct intervention of Sir Dawda, (of whom i am no admirer but
even
> > the devil deserves his due)the politics of retribution that some members
of
> > the PPP wanted to bear upon their political opponents would have been
> > worst.Sir Dawda always advocated for the due process of law to brought
upon
> > all such people which unfortunately was not always heeded by his
supporters.
> > Had Yahya been in a similar situation, he would have ordered
extra-judicial
> > killings and secret night burials as he did during November 11, 1994 or
even
> > ordered a broad daylght massacre as happen to the students on April 10 &
11,
> > 2000. >>
> >
>
> Kanteh,
>
> Isn't this the exact point we've tirelessly tried to spell out for our
anti-
> PPP clerics? Instead of these people taking a pause and put things in
> context, they engage in all kinds of intellectually dishonest and non
> sequitur arguments about the demerits of Jawara or lack thereof. The vast
> majority of these anti- PPP clerics have personal gripes against Jawara
that
> still rankle. These gripes, and nothing else, accounts for their mindless
> anti- PPP zealotry. As i keep on saying, i know a lot of folks who have
> suffered one way or the other from the hands of the PPP. Unlike our anti-
PPP
> clerics, these people have moved on and know deep in their hearts that
anti-
> PPP zealotry serves none save the current dictatorship. Jawara as a
president
> had his flaws; as we all are flawed one way or the other - like all
mortals.
> But there is no doubt that he is a decent and a very good man. None can
ever
> take that away from him. The idea that Jawara is comparable to Jammeh is
the
> bane of nauseating hypocrisy.
>
> As per the whole Kukoi question, in my own opinion, that ugly episode of
> Gambian history is a moral ragbag. That is to say that it is not as
> simplistic as many anti- PPP clerics are positing or narrating. Kukoi was
> wrong to carry out that ill-fated armed insurrection of July 30th 1981.
> Regardless of Kukoi's wrongs, the zealotry and infingements of liberties
that
> occurred in some cases, after the putsch was helped quashed by the
> Senegalese, is indefensible. Sentimental anti- PPP clerics like
> Jassey-Conteh, with his  usual sentimental and romantic nonsense, claimed
> that after the ill-fated putsch, an anti- "Jola" witch hunt was officially
> sanctioned by the PPP. Can anyone be this silly and outrageous? Are these
> stupid claims not the very ones that are used to affirm Jammeh's morally
> disgusting and divisive affirmative action for Gambians he termed as
"Jolas"?
> Where was Jassey-Conteh when the likes of Hatab Bojang, Musa Babadingding
> Ceesay - who was my neighbour in those days - Sanjally Bojang, SM Dibba
and
> the numerous individuals who would not normally categorise themselves as
> "Jola" speaking people, who were subsequently arrested, detained and or
> incarcerated at Mile Two prisons? For Jassey-Conteh to rehearse and
> regurgitate this sentimental nonsense shows how low people can go in their
> disgusting anti- PPP bashings.
>
> Be all that as it may, since a post mortem of Kukoi's ill-fatedarmed
> insurrection is what we are after here, let us start putting things in
> perspective and in the appropriate context. I would like the anti- PPP
> clerics to answer three questions vis-a-vis Kukoi's ill-fated putsch and
the
> manner in which it was subsequently quashed:
>
> 1. How should the PPP regime have reacted to armed insurrection of the
> Marxist oriented coup d'etat of Kukoi?
>
> 2. Was Kukoi right in the first place to launch an armed assault on the
> Gambian polity to achieve his diabolical Marxist aims?
>
> 3. Bar the innocent people who died in the conflict, what was amoral about
> the Senegalese intervention? What was wrong in Jawara asking Senegal to
> intervene and restore order in the country?
>
> Anti- PPP clerics in their mindless zealotry of PPP bashing couldn't even
> pause for a second and ask themselves these simple questions; questions,
> which if placed in the proper context of what was at stake and how it
> chanced, many who are now busy carrying futile post mortems of that
ill-fated
> putsch will be appreciative of the fact that the Marxist oriented armed
> insurrection of Kukoi failed. Had they bothered to ponder the implications
of
> a Gambia under the leadership of crack-pot Marxists, most of these
outrageous
> claims will not be uttered here incessantly. I submit that had Kukoi
> succeeded with his agenda, Gambia will never be the relatively quiet,
sedate,
> tranquil, moderate and peaceful place it was before Jammeh took over.
Gambia
> was more likely to have been reduced to another tragic wreckage as
Mengistu -
> another crack-pot Marxist - reduced Ethiopia to in the 80s with that
> horrendous famine and a seemingly never-ending internecine civil strife. I
> regret the lives lost in the ill-fated Kukoi putsch; just as i deplore the
> gross Human Rights violations than ensued after it was quashed by the
> Senegalese. But i appreciate the Senegalese intervention, without which,
> arguably, i would have grown up as another African statistics of a
displaced
> child of a war torn African country. Forget the international legal
arguments
> against the Senegalese intervention. Morally, Jawara was very right in
asking
> the Senegalese to intervene. Without the Senegalese intervention, we can
> engage in futile intellectual speculations with hindsight as per what the
> fate of the Gambia would have been had Kukoi in his bid to force the PPP
out
> of by the barrel of the gun. One thing is crystal clear to me: the
relative,
> but snail pace advancement the Gambia scored post- Kukoi's ill-fated
putsch,
> would certainly not have been the case had the Senegalese not intervened
in
> the nick of time and quash the ill-fated putsch. No amount of intellectual
> skulduggery and Stalinist rewrite of history will change that fundamental
> moral truth. Basic human decency requires that at the very least, we admit
> the obvious and regard as morally abhorrent any attempts to falsify
history
> simply because we have an axe to grind with individuals involved in such
> histories. These days, that just seems to be asking too much of our anti-
PPP
> clerics.
>
> Hamjatta Kanteh
>
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