My brother Alhagie & folks,
I very sincerely agree with you that at this all important hour in the
annals of our struggle for emancipation from The A(F)PRC dictatorship, we
should have been indulging ourselves in a more meaningful manner. The manner
in which the energies of some activists and supporters of the two coalitions
are currently directed against each other on this forum and others, is
indicative of the fact that the two coalition formula is unwise. However, it
is better to have two functional coalitions rather than one which proves
unfunctional.
It is about time for someone to urge some folks out there to hold their
breath. Lots of things can happen in even the eleventh hour. At this
juncture it is vital for all of us to accept the reality on the ground
first, and then use that as the basis for enhancing the chances for removing
The A(F)PRC dictatorship from power. But if we do not accept the realities
on the ground, we would be merely moving in circles and that can be in the
benefit of only Jammeh and his cohorts.
Already, fundamental differences have emerged in the programs of the two
coalitions. While the National Alliance for Democracy and Development(NADD)
postulates a program of Rectification; the UDP/NRP on the other hand is
geared up for Regime Change. We can deduce a lot from this fundamental
difference, but that is irrelevant to the task of identifying a formula
that can most effectively remove Yaya Jammeh at the polls, which is of more
importance to the suffering masses in The Gambia. Thus what is of relevance
here is the need to identify what the two coalitions have in common and use
that as the basis for an election strategy. Only pessimists will tell us
that collaboration is impossible at the moment. Indeed if the wishes and
aspirations of The Gambian masses are what determine our politics, there
should currently be channels of communication between the two coalitions.
This, among other things, can pre-empt the development of battle-lines
between the opposition forces and allow us to direct all our efforts and
resources towards removing The A(F)PRC from power.
THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES!
Omar Joof.
>From: "alhajie kanteh" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: [>-<] Re: The Document
>Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:31:26 +0000
>
>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "alhajie kanteh"
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>
>Did plagiarism actually taken place? If so, by whom? Which document, piece
>of work, or intellectual property is alleged to have been plagiarized? As
>for as I am concerned, the allegation that the UDP/NRP working document was
>lifted from another document is yet to be substantiated. What I, and indeed
>many others expect to see is a piece of work or works PARADED alongside the
>UDP/NRP docus for all to see and verify; until then this charge, no matter
>what we think, is hot air being released. Besides, does it matter to the
>electorate in the Gambia at this eleventh hour if a working document of a
>political party is not original? Opposition supporters should at this
>stage, be busy with more pressing matters. It seems to me though that the
>battle line is now drawn between the two opposition parties. My opinion.
>
>Alhajie
>
>
>>From: "Ginny Quick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>To: "The Gambia and related-issues mailing list"
>><[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [>-<] Re: The Document
>>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:24:31 -0500
>>
>>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Ginny Quick"
>><[log in to unmask]> ]
>>
>>
>>Perhaps you could forward these messages, with your reactions, etc.,
>>to the Gambia Post as well? Why were they seemingly only posted to
>>the Gambia-l? I understand the first one, as it seems to be a
>>reproduction of what Karamba Touray had said on the Gambia Post.
>>However, the second message seems to be your reaction to him, and as
>>he is on that list, and as far as I know *not* on the Gambia-l, and
>>as this discussion is also taking place on that list as well, in all
>>fairness, your reactions to Karamba should be forwarded to that list
>>as well, for his response, as well as for the benefit of the people on
>>that list participating in this discussion who may not also be on the
>>Gambia-l.
>>
>>Ginny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9/6/06, Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>"Afterall the same organisation invited Ousainou Darboe last year and he
>>>obliged by interrupting personal business that brought him here and flew
>>>from Seattle to address them in Chicago. This year because Joe Sambou
>>>does
>>>not like the decisions he made, he will personally constitute an academic
>>>review panel to reject a document he was invited to submit and proceed to
>>>lie about the whole episode."
>>>
>>>I missed the above, but you are really hilarious. So, I hate Ousainou
>>>Darbo, the reason why I ask for clarification? Did you also say I hated
>>>the
>>>decisions he made, thus this inquiry? Karamba, someone has be deluding
>>>you
>>>to believe you are too smart for us, but please slow down! Where has
>>>anyone
>>>mentioned Ousainou in this inquiry? So, why are you trying to make him
>>>an
>>>issue here when his name has not been mentioned. Karamba and Saihou
>>>Maballow posted this document, thus Karamba and Saihou Mballow will
>>>answer
>>>to the people. Karamba, contrary to your belief, some of us has been
>>>around
>>>and we shall find you, twisting and all.
>>>
>>>Chi Jaama
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: karamba touray <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >Subject: [>-<] The Document
>>> >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
>>> >
>>> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by karamba touray
>>> ><[log in to unmask]> ]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Folks,
>>> > the document that was sent over to the Chicago
>>> >meeting is the same exact document Saihou Mballow
>>> >released a little over week ago. It is a policy
>>> >document released by the the UDP/NRP/PDGP. I forwarded
>>> >it to Ousman Conteh who contacted me on behalf of
>>> >their organisation on Friday afternoon. He called me
>>> >saturday morning and we spoke for about a minute and I
>>> >told him the document was a lengthy 30 pages and that
>>> >he may want to tell those members of their audience
>>> >interested in reading it to try doing so online. That
>>> >was the begining and end of my conversation with Ous
>>> >Conteh.He did not raise a question about the document
>>> >neither did he tell me anyoneelse did at the meeting
>>> >or afterwards. Infact I spoke to Ous Conteh last night
>>> >having read Joe's account and he was outraged that
>>> >Joe would concoct such a silly story about how I said
>>> >I purportedly spent all night summarising the said
>>> >document or that they had tried to'confront' me at
>>> >their meeting and I was avoiding their calls. Absolute
>>> >lies and for what? I am not in the business of
>>> >claiming authorship or assuming the role of a
>>> >spokesman for UDP/NRP/PDGP. I support them in my
>>> >capacity as an interested Gambian citizen. If they put
>>> >out a document in their quest to seek public office ,
>>> >citizens such as yourself can take it upon yourself to
>>> >analyse the document, make up your own minds regarding
>>> >the methodology of it's production, it's merits or
>>> >even relevance.Whatever conclusions emanate from that
>>> >exercise is worthy of the kind of serious deliberation
>>> >citizens undertake in a participatory democracy. Why
>>> >should our discourse be tinged with the kind of
>>> >accusatory disposition routinely manifested by people
>>> >on issue after issue. Afterall the same organisation
>>> >invited Ousainou Darboe last year and he obliged by
>>> >interrupting personal business that brought him here
>>> >and flew from Seattle to address them in Chicago. This
>>> >year because Joe Sambou does not like the decisions he
>>> >made, he will personally constitute an academic review
>>> >panel to reject a document he was invited to submit
>>> >and proceed to lie about the whole episode. Whoever
>>> >heard of a community organisation that invites a cross
>>> >section of society abrogating for itself the right to
>>> >decide if submittalls that are voluntarily sought and
>>> >provided meet some tortured and warped standard.It is
>>> >a notch below facism. Those of you who have questions
>>> >regarding the production methodology, look into it and
>>> >if you have cause for criticism by all means go ahead.
>>> >It is all part the process and I fully recognise your
>>> >right to that.To those of you who believe you have
>>> >stumbled upon something you can precitipate a scandal
>>> >from I say good luck because I know you will need it.
>>> >Some of you are just pathetic, petty and have a made a
>>> >speciality in diviancy. Ndeysan
>>> >Karamba
>>> >
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