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Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
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Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal mail 
sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I  still believe that it would be 
unprecedented for  management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence 
tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far as 
I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to  report his address being spoofed to G-l 
management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without conscent.
Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not 
Pa's request to suspend the suspect account  pending verification. 
Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa 
contacted them about the suspended account.

While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it 
not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of whom 
he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair to 
state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today, I 
hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's 
postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.

 Malanding

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> 
>Laye,
> 
>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to de-list  
>Ebou Jallow  because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was  illegally 
>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the  hackers ( and 
>we all saw that evidence which the management said  was the reason they decided 
>to de-list his email address for the time  being) and Ebou Jallow's posting 
>of emails he clearly labels as  intercepted private communication to Pa Nderry 
>was what led me to also  suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed but 
>Malanding offered an  explanation that still has me scratching my head. 
> 
>Jabou Joh
> 
>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
>List  Managers:
>
>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry  Mbai's claim
>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou  Jallow
>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to  demonstrate to
>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai  to forward
>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any  satisfactory
>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr.  Jallow, he
>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of  the list.
>
>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim  of illegal
>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted -  because he
>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies  logic (in my
>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the  list with no
>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my  knowledge
>so far.
>
>There has been precedent to such behavior on the  list and the outcome was
>swift and clear to all.
>
>My apolgies if this  issue is being dealt with under the  shadows.
>
>-BambaLaye
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm,  Ebou Jallow said:
>  
>
>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
>>*Sent*:  Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject*:  Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation  please
>>
>>Pa Nderry,
>>
>>I am a visitor to your site.  Congrats for setting up the online news
>>service. I enjoy alot going  through it .However what is disturbing to me
>>is
>>that people's  private lives are constantly dragged into what seems to have
>>no links  with issues that are relevant to national development. My first
>> example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the second  is
>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but  I
>>think
>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is  living with, or who
>>he
>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It  sounds so ridiculous to me. It makes
>>me
>>wonder do we have some  online saints? Really not. Talking about
>>corruption,
>>politics  and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but trying to
>>smear  others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever your
>> source
>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one  should have
>>the
>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping  silent entrenches the problem.
>>If
>>it is true, I know it is not  only the said ambassador who is guilty of
>>sexual harassment in the  Gambia, not only in government, it is every where
>>in our schools, in  the private offices, in our houses, in the media. I am
>>presently  working on a book to be published in some months ahead and one
>> of
>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not  trying
>>to
>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government  officer but I am writing
>>an
>>independent opinion and certainly  as a journalist as well. I know his name
>>casually like the name of any  other person of high portfolio in
>>government.
>>Thats all but I  feel it is not right to denigrate him on no grounds, I
>>think
>> it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family or
>> alone.
>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside  the country.
>>If
>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern  us as a nation, why not,
>>belch
>>it out, sure we all need to  know, but otherwise, things like who drinks
>>beer
>>or has a girl  friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to use
>>valuable time  on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We have
>>more
>> pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning that  Katy
>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her  but I
>>feel
>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
>>Most  times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading reports or
>> some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper report  is
>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a  summary
>>of
>>a boigraphical tale.
>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I  am saying keep up the good work and congrats for
>>establishing the  newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we have
>>loads
>>of  bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
>>
>> Mariama Khan
>>Postgraduate student
>>Turin, italy
>>
>> autho- Futa Toro
>>
>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting  lips
>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
>>
>>Mariama  Khan
>>
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