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YERO MAMA <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr.You wrote "democracy in the gambia is a work in progress" I would
reciprocate that latest lesson from you Mr.learned GUY by telling you that;
So is "democracy in the world a work in progress".The democratic flaws and
shortcomings within our geopolitical arena, are inter-continental!They are
not Gambian!
So any serious accademician,politician,OR ADVOCATOR!will have to JOIN THOSE
WANT TO readjust the international trend and stop the "jabbering" TOWARDS
AFRICAN LEADERS ALONE!
We heard and do hear other valuable assets like James Jonnah et al and
these DOCTORS! are yearning for an international approach.Unlike some of you
who languish behind such "canalised" regionalistic and "vous" syndromes.
Its been widely noticed that the so-CALLED DOCTORS AND PROFESSORS ON THE L
pick and choose who to talk to! Is that what we expect from people who want
to safe us?

Unfortunately and to my surprise! Still some on this very forum who see
themselves as super democrats have "cunningly" taken a u-TURN to say that
the OLIVE BRANCH FROM JAMMEH ISN'T ENOUGH BECAUSE OF THIS AND THAT!
Now what makes me wonder is,are any amongst those who say these things more
reliable than jammeh? Have we ever had the opportunity to dissect the
history of these people here? I mean their official or political
participation towards the development of the Gambia that they are claiming
to own? Its obvious that if such happens to be there will be much left to be
desired.
Lets not fool ourselves and start snobbing or refuting ideas from others
because of self-IMPOSED arrogance!
KATIM said that Jammeh is and was arrogant...This leaves me perplexed
because arrogance is a word that suits the characters i see here more than
any other individual on earth!
I know that people like me have been classified and branded within your
circles thus messages from our likes aren't sweet,therefore not to be
replied(BEING THE USUAL TREND).This style and this approach my brothers is
more of a sign of arrogance than any reationary attitude from any APRC or
JAMMEH fan!

Don't you think that sidelining people and snobbing those that you do not
agree with politically, itself is not compartible with serious
"intellectualism"? ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT sing THE SONG OF "WELL DONE
DOCTORS!" are considered the bins to receive harsh words from your choir of
gambial.
MY PROBLEM WITH SUCH "KABUDU-INTELLECTUALISED-CAMPS" IS SIMPLY BASED ON
PRINCIPLES PLEASE TRY AND RESPECT THE VIEWS OF OTHERS AND BROOD THROUGH
REASONS AND NOT WISHES!

Reply or not thats my take on your latest attempts!

"YEROMAMA PULORI GALO HAAWA BAROGEL N'DIMOU"
"Speak the speeches and let the speeches not spit you."



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>Subject: PLEASE DO NOT MOVE ON!
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 16:24:21 -0400
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>G-L Community:
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>While some are disappointed in the outcome of the October, 2001
>Presidential election, we must all take pride in the fact that the
>election was "free and fair" and an improvement on the referendum over
>the Constitution and the 1996 Presidential election.  More important,
>Decree 89 was lifted, perhaps a little too late, but nonetheless,
>LIFTED.  Access to the media by opposition political parties though not
>equal, improved somewhat.  A Governance Conference was held, even if
>some members of the opposition walked out.  Most of us advocated for a
>United Opposition, three parties out of five opposition parties did. And
>many donated, however little, to the party/candidate of their choice.
>These are what many of us fought for (See the G-L Position Paper).  In
>fact, careful analysis would suggest that Gambia-L played an important
>role in ensuring a more level and open political terrain and atmosphere
>.  ( I will write a longer research paper on this later).  AND WE HAVE A
>LOT MORE TO DO!
>
>When we started to send petitions all over, about two years ago, many
>felt that it may lead to nothing.  To the contrary, the petitions we
>sent around the world(including The Gambia) and the responses we
>received made a difference. Equally important, is that the APRC and /or
>its representatives on the G-L listened and debated us.  We HAVE AN
>AUDIENCE.
>
>The activities of the New York, UK based MRDG, in addition to other
>organizations in D.C, North Carolina, Scandinavia, Germany etc., and
>numerous petitions, demonstrations and writings by members of the G-L,
>helped set the agenda for change, leading to the elections we just
>witnessed.  In order words, combined international, domestic and G-L
>pressure helped move the political process to where it is now.  In sum,
>the political system has opened some, in part because of our activism
>and its impact on civic education.  Today, Gambia's civil society is
>perhaps stronger for it.
>
>NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO MOVE ON BUT TO STAY PUT AND STRUGGLE FOR MORE!
>
>The Gambia-L, rightly or wrongly has come to constitute, despite our
>differences and occasional squabbles, a VOICE(s) that can not be IGNORED
>or SILENCED.  All but two of the Presidential candidates addressed
>various Gambian communities in the US and Europe and those who could not
>sent representatives.
>
>  WE MUST REMAIN ENGAGED!  Many burning issues remain.  These include:
>
>* Release/ Amnesty of/ for all political prisoners;
>* More Press Freedoms;
>* Voting Rights Bill for Overseas Gambians;
>* End to illegal arrests and emphasis on due process;
>* Right of Return and Protection of all exiles(self-imposed or
>otherwise);
>* Deploy students for civic and community service;
>* Return of all seized properties to their lawful owners, (if found
>innocent of wrong doing);
>              (These are just a few things that came to mind.)
>
>Democracy in The Gambia is a work in progress.  DO NOT MOVE ON.  REMAIN
>ENGAGED.
>
>Abdoulaye
>
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