Spellbounced Gambian canon!
I have smelt your violence without being there!
I have heard cries of mourn across the seas!
I have heard of gunshots starting the tremor of a babies you promised
to save!
I have smelt the fear of my beloved without confronting cold death!
I have heard of evil deeds to my fellow Gambians and i cant contain the fury
no more!
I have tested agony without my tongue! Do you understand!
I have seen evil without my sight!
In my mind these things have happened to me! Do u understand that!
In my mind these things are alive!
In my mind these things must stop!
In my my mind the country deserve much better!
In your young dreams,was this your doing!
In your mind how do you excuse your actions!
In your books can you find an excuse for your nightmares!
In my mind the future i dare to dream there is no pain there is no
feaaaaaaaaar not for a single soul not even ...!
In my mind's eye i dare see love forgiveness and peaceful resolution!
In my dream a chance of hope set freed from Banjul to Koina!
For our sake these things i dare visioned!
For our sake the sake of the nation must be foremost!
For our sake Africa must be Freed!
For the sake of our survival our ways must change!
I have in my minds heart and soul for our sake done these things!
sincerely kalilu camara
>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: A challenge to those advocating violent change in The Gambia
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 06:00:16 GMT
>
>Dear Friend,
>Its extremely difficult to say anything right when two teammates
>turn on each other.That scenerior in my humble opinion is worse
>than the challenge itself.It renders the team goalless and easily
>goaled.Not that this is a soccer game--far more serious than that!
>We should all bear in mind that when we disagree we do so by the means
>but not by the goals.A force is a vector quantity directed in different
>points lessen its effectiveness proportional to the number of directions!
>So
>is pressure once the surface area increase the pressure
>is reduced inversely. Once we all target the goal post this is a penalty
>kick!The opposing goalkeeper has no energy in his soul left he is a statue
>of an unnamed unaccountable heartless selfproclaimed prophet.
>Yaya has no power except that which he stole.
>Once we are able to expose him you know what Gambians do to a thief in
>Albert Market! This Robbery is much worse! All we have to do is
>show beyoung any reason his robbery to those whose fingers are on the
>trigger he will be so Afraid he will ............his pants!
>Dont mention resigning ! he will beg and fight to resign! the brother is
>sick yo, i aint lying,he sick!!! But he shrewd!very much so
>but above all his is scared to death.Thats what we dont seem to get.
>He want out he dont know how to leave in one piece so he took the
>country hostage!Show him the way out the country with a little
>compassion he will run out like a naked thief.He is dead inside
>of guilt,He has fools clapping for him but he is no fool he is mentally
>ready for some serious help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> sincerely karl
>
>>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: A challenge to those advocating violent change in The Gambia
>>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:48:34 EDT
>>
>>Buharry, are you really serious when you ask us to come to Gambia_L and
>>tell
>>the whole world how we are going to overthrow Yaya? As I said some months
>>back, even serious elections strategies would not be discussed in a forum
>>like this let alone more controversial means to get rid of Yaya. If you
>>think that we are just engaged in empty rhetoric spurred by our living
>>away
>>from Gambia, you do not begin to understand what this is all about.
>>Childish
>>challenges will not also prompt us to go to Gambia unprepared. So, save
>>yourself. We have nothing to prove to you or your likes. What kind of
>>pressure on Yaya are you talking about? He did arrest the students. They
>>got
>>out because of lawyers like Ousman Sillah. The government is still trying
>>to
>>put them back to jail. Where was the pressure when they ambushed Ousainou
>>Darboe's entourage? Where is the pressure when they would not dispense
>>justice for the families of the April massacres? I put it to you that the
>>only reason there is some semblance of lack of callousness recently, is
>>because it has began to dawn on Yaya and his cohorts that there are people
>>like us who will not let them get away with impunity. We advocate BY ALL
>>MEANS NECESSARY. We do not limit the options of our people to elections
>>that
>>every ten year old child knows are not going to be free and fair. What
>>would
>>you do if he rigs the next elections? Close your eyes to the obvious and
>>blame the Gambians for being stupid enough to vote for Yaya. Well we would
>>rather not put the Gambians in that position in the first place. Whenever
>>I
>>engage people like you, I always find myself being repetitious. So am
>>being
>>led to the conclusion that some of you people have been blinded by your
>>egos. You perhaps had previously gone on record saying that you would
>>never
>>support violence. So because of that, things that should be glaring before
>>your eyes would read something else to you. Get off your high horses and
>>join the struggle. Advocacy of violence does not render anyone a savage.
>>In
>>my book, those who sit down and watch the savages perfect their craft, are
>>as culpable as the savages. You should know about the struggles of ANC.
>>Did
>>Nelson Mandela, Oliver Thambo and the senior Mbeki just sit down and wait
>>for nonexistent election victories or put all their faith in the hands of
>>the international community? No. They bombed the South African government.
>>Did that make Nelson Mandela a savage? Oliver Thambo was in exile running
>>the ANC machinery. Did South Africans say that they were not going to
>>listen
>>to his calls for self-defense because he did not live in South Africa? Did
>>they say that they were only going to listen to people like Desmond Tutu
>>or
>>sell-outs like Buthelezi? So my friend, it is not about where you live, it
>>is about what you bring to the table. Some of us were in Gambia in the
>>aftermath of the 1994 coup. We made our opposition to this regime known
>>from
>>day one and we paid for our stance. Not with our lives as you might have
>>preferred. We tried diplomatic and constitutional means and they did not
>>work. It is about time we try more drastic means. No one is downplaying
>>the
>>diplomatic and constitutional efforts aimed at isolating this regime. I
>>was
>>one of the first subscribers to commend the Concerned Gambians for the
>>letter they got from Bill Clinton. I contribute more than you do in trying
>>to make sure that the culprits of the massacres face justice. What we have
>>a
>>problem with is people that limit our options or give priority to options
>>that are clearly unworkable. Like I said yesterday (keep repeating myself.
>>But I will gladly do so until it sinks into your heads) we are not
>>declaring
>>war on the Gambian people. We are declaring war on Yaya. Sensible Gambians
>>will leave our path when they see us going for Yaya. Why don't you want to
>>believe that if a bloodless coup can be pulled in 1994 another one can be
>>pulled in 2000? Jawara was there 30 years, thought he had a lot of
>>loyalists, but when push came to shove, no one stood up to defend him. We
>>are confident that when we are ready, we will vaporize Yaya with minimum
>>damage to the Gambian people at large. No one is promising a picnic here,
>>but there would not be a battle. Buharry, I don't know what else to tell
>>you
>>apart from to wake up and realize that you are not dealing with a rational
>>human being in Yaya. Tell me this. If you were attacked by a wild animal
>>today and you have a loaded gun in your hand, would you opt to extend your
>>hand to it in the name of diplomacy or would you blow its brains out? That
>>is the scenario we face. Yaya does not understand the language of
>>diplomacy.
>>If your principles of non-violence are so dear to your heart that you do
>>not
>>want to join us, fine with us. But please do not demoralize our people
>>back
>>home by telling them that the ballot box is the only means Yaya can be
>>removed from office. From what I can gather on the L, Colly had once
>>called
>>upon the army to remove Yaya. Saul and people like me have recently called
>>upon the UDP supporters to arm themselves and not let their guard down
>>during the coming campaign season. We are not calling upon you to leave
>>your
>>cozy existence in Europe to go fight in The Gambia neither are we calling
>>upon your unarmed civilian brothers to go and confront Yaya. So I don't
>>know
>>where you got that from. What do you want us to tell the UDP? To lie down
>>and let BaaBaa Jobe walk all over them? Or like some of your heroes,
>>pretend
>>that nothing undeserving happened to the UDP entourage? Or like others,
>>pretend that this was not orchestrated by Yaya and his bunch of bandits?
>>We
>>would continue to advocate the removal of Yaya through violent means until
>>pacifists like you come up with better means of removing him. If you are
>>waiting for your heroes on the ground to advocate the removal of Yaya
>>through violent means, then you will never see that and therefore you will
>>never be a convert. It is illegal and suicidal for them to do that.
>>Actions
>>speak louder than words. The way UDP supporters defended themselves should
>>have sent signals to you. Contrary to what happened on April 10 and 11,
>>this
>>time, casualties were counted on the other side. The way you help the
>>situation, is to do like Colly, Saul , Matarr and others and expose Baabaa
>>Jobe and Yaya for the cowards they are and urge UDP to be more vigilant.
>>You
>>don't tell them to call another rally and wait while Jobe and others come
>>and hack them with machetes and then send a silly petition to the
>>international community condemning Yaya and his government.
>>KB
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: A challenge to those advocating violent change in The Gambia
>>>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:45:49 +0200
>>>
>>>Hi!
>>> I have read a lot of messages propagating violence as the only
>>>available
>>>means of bringing about a change of government in The Gambia. I have also
>>>read how those who propagate other means especially peaceful ones are
>>>deemed
>>>to be living fantasies. I would like to suggest that those propagating
>>>violence from the comfort of homes in Europe and America are living a
>>>fantasy as much as those advocating peaceful means. One can be anyone one
>>>wants to be behind a computer keyboard. One can be Rambo, one can be
>>>Malcolm
>>>X, and one can be Bin Laden. One can even be Ghaddafi if one wishes. That
>>>is
>>>the beauty of the cyber identity. Then comes reality! The reality is that
>>>one may not be as tough as one portrays from a keyboard. One can be the
>>>greatest coward and the weakest "lefe lefe" there is yet the implications
>>>of
>>>their macho messages can be far-reaching and even devastating.
>>>
>>> If the ones preaching violence as the only available means of bringing
>>>about change are comfortably sitting in Europe and America, who is going
>>>to
>>>bring about that violent change for them? I would be more convinced if
>>>those
>>>people were on the ground in The Gambia living what they are preaching. I
>>>would pay more attention to their message if it were Halifa Sallah,
>>>Lawyer
>>>Darboe, Shyngle Nyassi or any Samba or Demba living in The Gambia who was
>>>preaching what they are preaching. I would be more convinced, perhaps
>>>even
>>>converted if they truly believed in what they are preaching and pack up
>>>and
>>>go back home to be in the midst of the violence they are preaching. Apart
>>>from that I just say, "Practise what you preach".
>>>
>>> The repercussions of the violent prescriptions these people are
>>>prescribing
>>>won't take place in a vacuum. The Gambia is not an empty space. Look at
>>>the
>>>results of violent confrontations in our sub-region. Look at Casamance,
>>>Liberia and Sierra Leone. It is very easy as stated earlier to sit
>>>thousands
>>>of miles away and prescribe violence knowing fully well that one is far
>>>removed from its effects. In other words, it is not their hands, feet or
>>>tongues that are going to be cut off. Yes, it might be their parents',
>>>children's etc. but it is still not the same. One can walk even if one's
>>>brother's legs are cut off. I would be more convinced if these people go
>>>back home and put their feet, tongues, hands etc. at the risk of being
>>>cut
>>>and still preach what they are preaching.
>>> There have been many cases in the recent past that have outraged many
>>>of
>>>us
>>>not only in their brutality but also even in their deliberate assumption
>>>of
>>>Gambians' stupidity. The answer to those acts cannot only be violence.
>>>Measures have been taken that have yielded results. Why do you think Yaya
>>>didn't react in his normal way after the student massacres? Why do you
>>>think
>>>all the arrested students were released? Pressure, man, pressure!
>>>Pressure
>>>that has had some effect no matter how much one wishes to downplay those
>>>effects.
>>>
>>> To those advocating violence I ask: do you have any organised means of
>>>bringing about a violent change? Do you have the finance to support a
>>>violent movement? Do you have a network somewhere to co-ordinate the
>>>activities of your movement? In short, what do you have in place apart
>>>from
>>>empty rhetoric? I say empty rhetoric because to propagate violence and
>>>dismiss the diplomatic approach as fantasy really smacks of a lack of
>>>understanding of how wars are fought. Ask the Arabs. When Israel was
>>>declared a state, the Arabs went bonkers and showed their absolute fury
>>>by
>>>attacking Israel. Yes, Israel had the military capability with the help
>>>of
>>>the West to defend itself. It however invested in a more important
>>>ingredient of war: propaganda and diplomacy. Because of the Jews'
>>>presence
>>>in broadcasting and publishing, they succeeded in transforming world
>>>opinion
>>>in their favour. That is why Israel gets away with basically anything
>>>today
>>>whilst the Iraqs, Yugoslavias etc. are bombed to smithereens for lesser
>>>sins. The importance of propaganda makes it imperative for guerrilla
>>>movements to have political organs that put a diplomatic face on the
>>>bombings and other atrocities perpetrated by their armed movements. To
>>>underestimate the importance of the non-violent aspect of the machinery
>>>of
>>>change displays a gross lack of understanding of the mechanisms of
>>>change.
>>>
>>> To cut a long story short, those who are advocating a violent change in
>>>The
>>>Gambia need to come up with action plans. They need to show us how they
>>>are
>>>going to bring about that change and if possible with the least loss of
>>>life
>>>and suffering possible. To lack an action plan yet instigate unarmed
>>>people
>>>to have violent confrontations with armed-to-the-teeth security personnel
>>>is
>>>irresponsible to say the least especially when one is sheltered some
>>>thousands of miles away. Self-defence is a natural right but instigating
>>>the
>>>UDP to form vigilante groups knowing fully well that they would not be
>>>granted firearms licences when they would be pitched against armed police
>>>and soldiers seems like a recipe for disaster. Maybe those advocating a
>>>non-violent response to the activities of the government do not have a
>>>panacea to all Gambia's ill but neither do those advocating a violent
>>>response. The issue therefore should be meet at the crossroads and maybe
>>>work out something that would be in the interests of The Gambia for
>>>surely
>>>violent confrontation, war and civil strife are not in our country's
>>>interests. Thanks.
>>>
>>>Buharry.
>>>
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