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"Edrissa S. Sanyang" <[log in to unmask]>
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Joe,
           thanks a bunch on behalf of the Struggle

Farang.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar

Farang, thanks for your clarification and I've found you. My apologies 
for misreading you. Usually when Gambians reference the 1981 affair it 
is used as cover to pitch for all options on the table except combat. 
The Kukoi affair must be put in its proper context and should not be 
used as cover to defend against hard options. We are faced with an 
enemy that our resolve must be resolute. The man must go and by any 
means necessary. We are twenty years into this already and at the rate 
and direction we are headed, we may find ourselves closing another 30 
year. The majority of our people, expecially diasporans are lukewarm in 
their support of getting rid of Yaya and at worse are not interested 
for following "the American, European Dreams", etc. It is only our 
resolve that stands between getting rid of this mennace and indulging 
him for another 30 years and we must be clear. Much respect.
 
Joe  
 

&gt; Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:35:21 -0400
&gt; From: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt;
&gt; Joe and Kejau
&gt; No you did NOT loose me; you Just did Not
&gt; get me. I did not say anywhere in my reply to Suntou that armed
&gt; struggle is not an option in fact I would argue I am stating the
&gt; contrary couched in Diplomatic language for even in WAR there is
&gt; Diplomacy (after all when and if it happens it is within the same
&gt; House). I would have thought my Touray Kunda fella would back me 
on
&gt; this one; any ways to reinforce my point I read somewhere when the
&gt; question was asked ' How shall freedom be defended?' Answer- 'By 
arms
&gt; when it is attacked by arms; by truth when it is attacked by lies; 
by
&gt; democratic faith when it is attacked by authoritarian dogma. 
Always,
&gt; and in the final act, by dedication and faith.' In one of my
&gt; submissions on all things jammeh, I did say Gambians are amenable 
to
&gt; All Options in pursuit of Our Freedom. But Let US be CLEAR here, 
we do
&gt; NOT want a repeat of what happened in July of 1981 in desperation.
&gt; Shall we keep Our Powder Dry for jammeh We are All in this 
Together.
&gt; Respects to Joe; as for kejau you just keep trying me. Thanks,
&gt;
&gt; Farang.
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: kejau &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; To: GAMBIA-L &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 6:33 am
&gt; Subject: Re: [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt;
&gt; Thanks Joe for speaking for me...
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Sent from Samsung Mobile
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; -------- Original message --------
&gt; From: Joe Joe &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; Date:
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Farang, you lost me some where. Some diplomat once said that war 
is an
&gt; extension of diplomacy. In other wards, you cannot loiter in idle
&gt; diplomacy to eternity as the misery of a people doubles daily. At 
some
&gt; point, the next logical steps must be taken, or we are forever 
stuck on
&gt; stupid. Africans watched while Rwandans were massacred; we saw the
&gt; recent carnage in Mali, Syria, and around the world, all because 
the
&gt; world stood and watched. Gambians spent twenty years under this
&gt; monster, and at the rate we are going, Yaya can do another 30 
years on
&gt; us, easily. Why is an armed struggle not an option if that is the 
last
&gt; resort? I see we have danced around this for too long. All these
&gt; nations that we reside in went to war to be what they are today. 
Do we
&gt; know something that they did not know? And so, when Gambians are 
quick
&gt; to stampede on any thought that remotely mentions an armed 
struggle,
&gt; what do they really want? We certainly do not live in the world
&gt; of Forest Gump, where life is like a box of chocolate. It is very
&gt; confusing to have undergone the last 20 years with Yaya with not 
end in
&gt; sight and for people to not even think combat is an option. If 
Gambians
&gt; have another 30 years to deal with Yaya, they just need to say 
that,
&gt; for that is what the current pace suggests. I know some have 
concerns
&gt; that if they come outright to call for Yaya's head that may be the 
end
&gt; of their visiting Gambia as long as Yaya is there, but we cannot 
have
&gt; our cake and eat it too. Yaya has no problem calling for the head 
of
&gt; any, why should I loose sleep calling for his head? It is either 
we are
&gt; not serious about change or we do not want to confront our reality.
&gt;  
&gt; Joe 
&gt;  
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:03:09 -0400
&gt; &gt; From: [log in to unmask]
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt; &gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Suntou,
&gt; &gt; I hope with all the desperation we are not encouraging a
&gt; &gt; repeat of the 1981 reckless accident. Key operational words 
to put
&gt; &gt; into consideration- strategy, tact, poise under pressure and
&gt; fierce
&gt; &gt; determination to succeed far from Desperation. Thanks.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Farang.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; &gt; From: suntou touray &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; &gt; To: GAMBIA-L &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 6:01 am
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Mr Sanyang, Koukoi's new found fame is indicative of the
&gt; desperation at
&gt; &gt; play. I am totally against Senegal extraditing Koukoi to the
&gt; Gambia.
&gt; &gt; However, Koukoi cannot be the front for our struggle. With
&gt; information
&gt; &gt; coming from his close comrades, it is not encouraging. 
However,
&gt; the
&gt; &gt; lack of progress in tackling the system is reaching the apex 
of
&gt; &gt; madness. We will accommodate anybody, be they mad men or 
chancers.
&gt; &gt; Apart from Koukoi's human right issue, I am not interested in 
his
&gt; &gt; stories.
&gt; &gt; Thanks
&gt; &gt; Suntou
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Edrissa S. Sanyang
&gt; &gt; &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; Can we set emotions aside of Kukoi issues and look at the 
Politics
&gt; in
&gt; &gt; play here. I was going to ask Kukoi certain questions today
&gt; through the
&gt; &gt; outlets he uses to rant his confused political ideology. I 
have
&gt; said on
&gt; &gt; this forum years ago and different print media that Kukoi is
&gt; Irrelevant
&gt; &gt; in the Political Discuss of The Gambia. He came back to say I
&gt; should
&gt; &gt; not Judge him because I do not know him. The little I know of
&gt; Kukoi is
&gt; &gt; enough for me to form an informed opinion about him. Kukoi has
&gt; shown in
&gt; &gt; 1981 his Depraved Indifference to Human Life. Kukoi like 
jammeh
&gt; has a
&gt; &gt; lot to Answer to Gambian People, their actions are motivated 
by
&gt; narrow
&gt; &gt; Tribal Interest and personal grievances. Here are two people 
who
&gt; have
&gt; &gt; caused the Two Reckless Accidents in the political 
transformation
&gt; of
&gt; &gt; The Gambia; since, etched in our collective memories. Here is 
my
&gt; &gt; questions to Kukoi:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; 1. How is it that kukoi can go in and out of Senegal without 
being
&gt; &gt; detained for what he did to the Senegalese soldiers in 1981?
&gt; &gt; 2. How did he acquire Senegalese ID?
&gt; &gt; 3. Is Kukoi still a Gambian?
&gt; &gt; 4. If Kukoi's accomplishes paid their price to The Gambian 
Society
&gt; for
&gt; &gt; what they did in 1981 why should he NOT pay his share of that
&gt; Price?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;     Kukoi might not be in a position to answer these questions
&gt; today,
&gt; &gt; but these deserve answers anytime he comes through his current
&gt; &gt; predicaments. I wish him well for I will like to see him 
answer to
&gt; The
&gt; &gt; Gambia People.
&gt; &gt; There are more to politics than meets the eye.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Farang.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; &gt; From: Bolonba &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; &gt; To: gambiapost &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 2:52 pm
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [&gt;-&lt;] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Interesting development. This will demonstrate that, Senegal
&gt; should be
&gt; &gt; handle with care. Suntou
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent from my iPhone
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; On 17 Apr 2013, at 14:58, Matarr Sillah
&gt; &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; &gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; According to Zikfm in Dakar, Kukoie was arrested at the 
Leopold
&gt; Sedar
&gt; &gt; Senghor Intl airport this morning.  
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; 
http://www.seneweb.com/news/S%C3%A9curit%C3%A9/urgent-koukoy-samba-sagna-arrete-a-l-aeroport-de-dakar_n_93445.html
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