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HARUNA has spoken he demand mr conteh produece his proofs i cannot go any further but support that cliam 

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
"In the name of Allah most compassionate ,most merciful .I am busy this days 
but ,i could not help but have a say in the very personal exchange between 
my two brothers and elders Haruna and mr Conteh." Suntou.

Suntou, I thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to share this 
note with us. I wish to share that there is not personal exchange between 
myself and Oconteh. We are on different planes of life.

"I do not intend to inter-fare but with all due rest ,i would like to say 
the following:" Suntou.

You must not perceive yourself interfering when you offer commentary on 
matters offered to community. Any community. Live the truth and you will be 
alright. Insha-Allah.

"It is the kalima or words of Allah in the noble Quran that ''when ever two 
groups of Muslims are engage in disharmonious activity we make peace between 
them''. Suntou.

Indeed, it is the detail in the Muslim that Allah avised discernments prior 
to making "peace". That is probably why my Allah is different from many an 
Allah. I do not do evangelism. It is anathema to ecumenical life. My evangelism 
is par excellence and par example.

"i am not interested in why brother conteh became very personal in his 
attack on haruna's character," Suntou.

I think you know now don't you. For reminder I share that Oconteh shares 
contempt for Haruna for the latter's imaginary disdain for the honourable 
Obama. Upon further discernment, Oconteh shares disdain for imaginary hypocrisy in 
Haruna but did not offer reason after having shared impoundment of culprit 
email trained on improper romancing of stones. I imagine divine intervention 
and du-diligent reflection arrested pursuits in vainglory by Maria del sol, 
clad in fool's gold, feigning Islam all the while.
I am sure what your Allah teaches you but mine has made my hand heavy. It 
can be lifted to dispense with dishonour but my Allah has weighted it down with 
illustrious gold for considerations of salvation in other. He has advised 
me, that there will be squirrels seeking elusive nuts, but that I am made of 
Macadamia, buried deep in his sanctimonious bosom, and that the wayfaring 
squirrel will inter him/herself in pursuit of the glorious macademia.

"but it is very uncomfortable to read the nature of the Mr conteh's 
comments." Suntou.


Pimps and Prostitutes rely on tarnish to sell their ware. It is just not 
clean enough for me. If you are familiar with me in both e-life and r-life, you 
will understand that I have been immune to charlatanry and gaucherie for 
quite some time now. It has stood me in good stead and has accrued me the 
blessings that are now the envy of many a listless and incomplete soul. I trudge on, 
decrepitude vanquished. If I am not with Allah, I submit I may not have been 
in your company today. I do not lie, I do not cheat, I do not associate with 
dishonour and decrepitude, and when other seeks my company in envy and 
vainglory, I am strengthened as they are reduced to unwanted detritus. And they 
continue to find secours in the good of other. Foroyaa man Diyaa.

"to my little judgement ,the accusations are unhealhty and therefore a 
source of anger to the person whose character has been mention." Suntou.

They could be viewed as healthy because if you realise, our Allahs have a 
way of proving us. Were dis-ease to remain silent or hidden, you may not be 
able to appreciate ease.

"to call some one a hypocrite is a very strong word. Allah said ''the 
hypocrite will burn in lowest depth of the hell fire ''surah munafiquun." Suntou.

It will be more helpful to me and our coleagues Suntou if you share with us 
how your Allah describes a Hypocrite, that we may effort to recognize and 
avoid it. What say you?

"I wish our brothers to sort out any personal issue through private email 
not on public domain." Suntou.

Bad idea Suntou. Remember, your prophets Muhammad and Eesaa have been 
maligned and sullied oftentimes. The both of them advise public prosecution of 
erstwhile malignancies so the general lot will be improved or inspired. That is 
good for humanity. We must never attempt to take anything in private that has 
been made public. That will be good for us. Palestine and Israel are 
suffering from mounds of soiled khaftans.

"I know haruna is not afraid to discuss his short comings or mistakes out in 
the public but," Suntou.

Thank you Suntou for recognizing such in me. I think OConteh's long silence 
with us may have contributed to his cluelessness of that. You must understand 
that if I did not keep private communication for posterity and propriety 
sakes, the music will become ever so melodious and my romantic prowess will have 
been denied many a suitor.

"it is our traditions to discuss matters of personal nature in private." 
Suntou.

Maybe I can help you here my dear Suntou. I know your heart is in a good 
place. My tradition is that you discuss matters that are of a personal nature, 
ONLY when they are benign as to other, and it is not the ware of the Haa-sid. 
That is why you have whistle-blowers , journalists, and the courts among us. 
Corruptible and infringing matter hidden, innures further decrepitude in 
character and general fortunes.

"whatever offence Mr darboe's email may have cause to Mr conteh we don't 
know," SUntou.

Indeed. And shouldn't you know therefore in order to be fair to OConteh and 
possibly Jabou. It is either I called Shitown Shitside or I did not. That is 
very easy to tell isn't it? And it is either I tried to romanticall exploit 
the indigent of romance or I did not. These are very simple matters, which 
when properly dispensed with, will enrich our souls. And we have tremendous 
opportunity to inspire and improve the lot of our community. If I were you, I 
will insist on truth and honour for it is only through your knowledge of 
dishonour and falsehood that you may counsel propriety. Would glory issue the person 
who denies you that value?

"i think it is not our business to know either." Suntou.


Probably, if it weren't forced on you in innuendo, envy, and malice. However 
now that you have been made aware ever so abstractedly, you must endeavour 
to capture to seek the truth there-in musn't you?

"on a lighter note ,masoud it may be wise to have a private email contact 
with Mr conteh concerning his comments,may be you and him can solve any issue 
amicably." Suntou.

No. There will be no value in that for we will only have swept it under the 
rug to rear its ugly head again. And I am a handsome man. Don't you think? 
Much like Muhammad, yourself, and our other honourable coleagues here, silent 
and published.

"no one is perfect" Suntou.

If I were you, I will erase this statement from my vocabulary. This is 
because our imperfection is extant. I would like you to adopt the following 
instead:

We are all in pursuit of perfection.

If you keep your original statement, you will always be of the dispensation 
to settle on mediocrity and forever sweep uncomfortable information and 
matter under your own rug.

"and certainly My brother, my fellow constituent and family member haruna is 
with a bag loads of imperfections but so will be mr conteh, mr ceesay, mr 
touray, mr jallow etc." Suntou.

Don't get so friggin excited about loads of imperfections. I hope you are 
making perfect those loads of imperfections each day. That is what I do. No 
sense in hiding behind Allah and Islam.

"Allah forgive us for all our imperfections and errors, if we repent always 
sincerely." SUntou.

You get the idea. Your Allah is very similar to mine in that mine requires 
sincere repentance for forgiveness. That is why I advise our President Yahya 
to ask for forgiveness sincerely.

"we are human ,we like things that may not necessarily be OK for us .i hope 
that with the spirit of eid, the two brothers can kiss and forget about this 
unhealthy discussion." Suntou.

Stay focused and don't go astray. You cannot make anyone muslim who does not 
know Islam and is not willing to know Islam. Same goes for Christianity. 
Mere Kissing and forgetting is for heathens. Discernments and forgiveness is for 
Children of God/Allah.

"what is private should remain private, my bolong upbringing." Suntou.


Don't forget to advise due-diligence and honour in the private. You must 
never privately consider stealing, cheating, prostitution, or dishonour. That 
will be good for you.

"yes haruan quotes the quran ,yes he support some Islamic values ,He 
acknowledged to not doing certain Islamic acts," Suntou.

You are mistaken my dear. I shared that my understanding of Islam is 
different from your understanding of it. But that when followed in spirit and 
letter, we will meet in Islam. I cannot know what your Islamic acts are unless you 
share them with me and I may not perform acts of others' Islams.

"i personally discuss some of those issues with him no problem. may be Allah 
is testing him with those things he is not doing, i pray that he accept 
Islam wholeheartedly." Suntou.

There you go again. My Allah never tests me. He guides me. He tests the 
uncouth and the indigent in commoner sense. Please pray that you understand and 
accept Islam wholeheartedly. If you go over this exchange, you will 
undoubtedly come across areas where improvement in your journey toward Islam is 
afforded you.

"Allah say in the quran ''come into the deen (islam) completely''." Suntou.

No need to place Islam in quotes. Deen is the common thread here. When left 
as is, Christians, Mormons, Adventists, and Ahmadiyyas all can yield value 
from it. Work on the completion of your Islam as you are afforded opportunity.

"haruna is not alone in doing some islamic things and avoiding others." 
Suntou.

You don't get it do you? I do not do some things and avoid some things. I 
just do not do your Islam as it is currently apparent. I hope you understand 
that some squirrels will find secours in this conversation and ignore their 
soil. They will continue to live in denials and incessant pursuit of fool's 
gold. Allah does not keep you quiet for no reason for any appreciable length of 
time. And when you finally summon enough courage to speak, Allah does not 
prevent you from speaking. If anything he encourages it. You might wonder why 
Allah laid Adam and Eve bare so to the teachery of Shaitan. And Allah loves Adam 
and Eve and he created Shaitan.

"even inviting to music is unislamic," Suntou.

I beg to differ with you. It is the qualification of the music that Allah 
concerns himself with. Allah does have a melodious voice afterall and he 
proclaimed Haaroon spokesman for Musa. And Haroon was given to melodious oratory.

"it is against the advice of the prophet of islam yet we do see those thing 
happening always." Suntou.

You see how you can trudge on into the wrong Islam. You convince yourselves 
of the veracity of earlier prose, and that sustains you to more debilitating 
prose. Suntou, I want you to take an inventory of your Islam. Perhaps 
consider limiting evangelism of your Islam until you are confident in yielding 
salvation for other.

"may Allah forgive us and make us sincere and good in our conducts." Suntou.

I join you in this prayer. May your Allah keep and guide you always. May 
he/she afford you consideration of other less fortunate in diction, sight, and 
locomotion.

"Masoud i wish you all the best in your current courtship with the potential 
lady darboe. be good as always." Suntou.

Thank you for you. Allah will bless you. I am close to sealing the 
companionship and you will be one of the first to know besides my family and her 
family. I appreciate your prayers.

"i am here to extend my good will once your sallah is ok ,laugh." Suntou.


Indeed I laughed. You're too friggin funny yourself.
Haroun Masoud. MQDT Darbo. Al Mu'Umin. My friend and Shiekh Omar bin Abdel 
Khader says Hello. Fii Umamil Muttahida.


Haruna Darbo wrote:

My new friend Ousman Conteh, how are you? I hope well. I am aware now that 
you may have other disquiets aboutme that may not have much to do with my 
views of Obama, Edwards, or my myriad other opinions on numerous matters 
here. I 
notice I'm exhausting my submission quota here with this note. If you will 
oblige me, can we continue with your anxieties and suspicions about me 
tomorrow 
or in private if you prefer until the morrow? I will address your notes 
below here for I still have this one opportunity today. 

"Your hypocritical behavior and your bullshit is what's getting on my every 
freaking nerves, invoking Allah's name, quoting from the Qu ran and 
presenting yourself as a god fearing man is what you need to stop." OC.

I am sorry you get easily excited. I did not know invoking Allah's name, 
quoting from the Qur'an, and presenting myself as the God/Allah fearing man 
that 
I am is hypocritical or needs to be arrested. I am terribly sorry Ousman. 
May I submit my regrets now for I intend to continue invoking Allah's name, 
quoting the Qur'an, and presenting myself as God/Allah fearing. I hope you 
will 
forgive those future trespasses of mine on my Allah/God. Maybe it will help 
if I add that your God/Allah may not necessarily be my God/Allah. This is 
worth further considerations.

"Reading all of these is making me sick," OC.

Please find it in your heart to forgive me OC.

"especially after reading an email that you sent to someone couple of months 
ago," OC.

OC, I think I'm confused. In all fairness to you however, I will be 
disappointed if I held someone in high esteem prior and to find out they are 
lying or 
being hypocritical. You mention that you read an email I sent to 
someone-else a couple of months ago. Are you in the habit of reading others' 
emails or 
is just especially when they happen to come from me Haruna? I would advise 
you 
stop reading others' emails. Not that I ever regret any email I send 
someone, but that it is generally dishonest to read others' emails. 
Nonetheless, the 
prospect of your reading my emails to others cannot be significant enough to 
me to consider you don't believe do you?

"in this email you tried to romantically exploit these person by vomiting 
everything about you and what you have achieved, your life story and how 
professionally and materially blessed you are." OC.

When you say romantically, I presume you're referring to a female who I seem 
to be wooing or courting. However, I am not generally in the habbit of 
courting on the internet. I would like the owner of such email to share with 
us 
here what the romantic communication was and of if she thought I was 
exploiting 
her romantically, or if she has any romance that could be exploited by 
Haruna. Further, my life story is an open book, I'm sorry you have not read 
it 
before. I generally am not given to boastful lanterns and I generally shy 
away 
from sharing my professional and or financial blessings simply because I am 
far from achieving what I desire to achieve in those endeavours. Even when 
I'm 
asked pertinent questions about my professional and financial ware, and it 
is 
genuine query, I hesitate to share that, especially where it might sway 
opinion or amour. I am single however and I am communicating with a 
potential 
wife at the moment. I have given notice to all the females who have taken a 
fancy to me that I am temporarily unavailable. Should my current courtships 
yield 
nought, I shall be available again and I will give notice to one and all. 
That will be good for me. May this also serve notice to my honourable 
matchmakers like Suntou, Yanks, and other well-wishers that I am currently 
seriously 
considering one potential companion and that I will update them on my 
current 
pursuit. I know my romantic life conjures up immense interest, always has. 
So 
I have to be careful for my children's sakes. OC but I think you 
misunderstood whatever email of other you may have read. Please share with 
me where your 
disdain issues that I may effort to console you or allay your fears about me.

"You are not what and how you present yourself on line, so please stop the 
bullshit." OC.


Is that right? What about my online personality does not match my off-line 
personality OC. Our coleagues may desire to know so they may advise me 
toward 
more propriety or that I may adjust either personalities to deserve your 
admiration.

"I don't care for you to know who I am, it is irrelevant." OC.

All right. I have now ceased query into your identity. If you remember, you 
were reminding me that I knew you or knew of you and the acquaintance seemed 
to escape me. It still does. But I now will not desire to know you. As you 
wish. This is nothing to get upset over. We do not have to know each other 
if 
we are both trained on our Gods and Allahs. 

"Sister Jabou please do not apologize, for you owe him none." OC.

OC you may wish to allow Jabou the privilege of apologising or not, or 
discerning whether she owes anybody anything or not. FYI, Jabou's apology is 
not 
for me. It is for Jabou if she were to so desire. Jabou does not owe Haruna 
anything. And Jabou is aware of that.

"I hate to take this route but was left with no other choice especially 
after your emails with references to the Qu ran and Allah the Almighty. You 
are 
HYPOCRITE." OC.

I am sorry OC that you are limited in your options for routes. I wish to 
share with you for posterity that;
1. Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite.
2. Quotations from the Qur'an or the Almighty's many nomenclatures will not 
cure the afflicted (with hypocrisy).
3. You must never allow yourself to be swayed by other's invocation of the 
Qur'an or Allah/God's names.
4. My invocations of the Qur'an are generally caution and advice if you 
understood them.
5. I do not subscribe to any religion. I live on the best of all religions. 
That is good for me.

So if its any consolation, and should you hear me invoking Allah or the 
Qur'an, understand that we do not share religion. I have had some 
conversations 
with our own Suntou on Religion. I think he is witness to my religion or 
non-religion. Suntou is free to share with you what my religion is.

Oh by the way, I keep copies of all my emails. The ones addressed to me and 
those I send to other. If my archiving system does not fail me, I'm 
confident 
if you give us reference to said culprit email, I can reproduce it for you. 
Possibly other email that may precede it. I live my life that way because my 
Allah advises me to and because my communication is very important and 
sincere. Always. Read the culprit email again. You may come away with a 
totally 
different perspective.

Your brother, Haruna. Unavailable for the moment. Rashid. MQDT Darbo. Al 
Mutawakkil.





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