Abdou, thanks for you input. However, you know that the last person I will
bat for is Essa Sey, if Last Card is Essa Sey. My focus is the allegation
by Alieu that Last Card fabricated documents and forged Bah's signature and
gave it to Senegal, the reason for Bah's arrest. I don't know who Bah is,
but it would be very callous for an innocent man to be framed because of
another's treachery. Given this thought process, don't you think it is
reasonable to ask Alieu for the evidence to believe or ignore his allegation
against Last Card. Who should provide the proof in this allegation, Last
Card or Alieu. I think the person that brought the allegation has the
burden of proof. If in fact Last Card fabricated the documents and forged
Bah's signature, I think all fair minded persons should be appalled by that
act and we are obligated to fight on behalf of Bah.
We also know that the prosecutor did not mention Last Card or Essa Sey in
the charges levied against Mr. Bah. Again, don't you think it reasonable to
ask Alieu to reconcile that gap for us, based on what his source told him
and the charges by the prosecutor?
Following the same documents that Alieu said Last Card supplied to Wade,
Yaya also claimed that NADD, not Last Card, gave false documents to Wade.
Again, do you see a conflict here? If so, is it unreasonable to get
clarification as to what Yaya claimed and what Alieu alleged?
As to what Pa Ndery wrote, I am really not interested with Yaya's dealings
with his cronies, thus I did not deal with that.
In sum, my inquiry is about whether Mr. Bah is arrested because of what Last
Card did in his name, and whether Last Card sent documents to Wade. We know
that Yaya lied when he said that NADD sent documents to Wade. Hope this
helps.
Chi Jaama
Joe
>From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:41:35 -0800
>
>Joe you may agree or dis agree with the Alieu and that is the essence of
>democracy and the only way forward to fight against dictatorial rule that
>engulf our country. I don't think there is any need for you to defence Essa
>Sey. I don't trust people like his caliber who vacillate to our ranks
>because of their lost their position after strengthening the hand of the
>devil. I think Yoro mama need to clear himself. For Pa Nderry Mbai I have
>nothing personal against him but it is compelling not only today but to
>stands the test of time to give us truth and no lies about how events are
>folding. I hope Mr Mbai will improve upon his reporting has he stood back
>from the trees andgiven us a view of the wood.
>For Mr Alieu Sanyang you must be blind if you can see how rotten Gambia
>under Yahya Jammeh is heading into. Alieu who really the reins of power in
>Gambia today? How can our people make the leadership accountable? This
>isthe voice for change. There you aware that the peaks of both government
>and finance have become more concentrated and isalated; checks and balances
>have become much weak, the costs of wrong decisions have often proved
>disastrous to the common man. Alieu please tell me no lies Jammeh's regime
>is the anatomy of the ills confronting our nation.
>
>Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Come on Alieu, you know that Yaya lied about everything he said on Koreteh
>Day. You also know that the Government that you support did not say in
>court, what you just alleged. It seems to me you missed the basis for my
>inquiry. You had your source and Pa Ndery had his source. I am not
>interested with what Yaya does with Edu, Peter, Jatta, or Badjie. However,
>I am interested in your allegation that Last Card fabricated documents and
>forged Bah's signature, that led to Bah's arrest. That would be a very low
>blow to an innocent person if true. All I am doing is to weigh your
>allegation and what Yaya's Prosecutor said in court. I am also weighing
>your allegation with respect to the documents that interestingly, Yaya also
>said NADD supplied to Wade. Now you are saying that Last Card sent them to
>Wade. So between yourself and Yaya a fabricator exist. You are right, you
>do not have to prove anything here for Wade and Senegal, the recipient and
>reference to those documents will prove either yourself, Yaya or both
>wrong,
>just hang tight.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
> >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:34:51 -0800
> >
> >Joe,
> >I am not a spokes person for the Jammeh government. If you have any
> >questions with regards to what they believe or what I report on the Bah
> >case, I guess you are intelligent enough to know how to fetch for
> >information.
> >I am not sure if you are lying or the Jammeh government is lying. All
>that
> >I know is that my sources are right.
> >And again, it is your choice to believe in what you want to. I look
>forward
> >to the day we as Gambians are not being blinded like you are to the
>truth.
> >Did anyone prove here that what Mr. Nderry reported was true? Only
> >Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts to question him. He never came back on
>this
> >List to even explain. What did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
> >So big guy, let us all be honest to ourselves if we have to be able to
>move
> >our nation further. Let us all have our differences but still be able to
> >accept that we have different ideas and believes withou calling anyone a
> >liar.
> >
> >Alieu Sanyang.
> >
> >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence against NADD,
> >like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by Saddam. Alieu,
> >have you read the charges that the government you are proud of levied
> >against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is correct? If you
> >believe they are off track, then don't you think you should help them
>beef
> >up those charges to include Last Card and exclude Bah? Looks like they
> >missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells me that this is a
> >phantom from both sides, for if you have this evidence, you certainly
> >cannot
> >allow an innocent person get railroaded, will you?
> >
> >Chi Jaama
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
> > >
> > >Joe,
> > >I am not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the integrity to
> >ask
> > >the guys who pulled the same stories against the Jammeh regime.
> > >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It was not written for
> >you
> > >to judge either. Call it anything you want to.
> > >
> > >Alieu Sanyang
> > >
> > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> > >Alieu, you have also made some serious allegations against Last Card
>and
> >I
> > >am interested in the substance of your allegations. Yaya said that NADD
> > >gave Wade fake documents, which both you and I know to be a
>fabrication,
> > >and
> > >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to the Senegalese
> > >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you present the
>evidence
> > >you are refering to, to support you claims? I don't know your relation
> >with
> > >Yaya, but you can surely advise him about the rules of evidence, or is
> >this
> > >the same as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians about "Oil
> >and
> > >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is very serious and
>involves
> > >the life of an innocent person, that you are morally required to show
> >your
> > >hand. Otherwise, I will just disregard it as "hear say".
> > >
> > >Chi Jaama
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > >
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18 -0800
> > > >
> > > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last Card Sey have seen their plot to
> >breed
> > > >blood between The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry, I think you
> > >should
> > > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be spreading news on this
> >List
> > > >that is not only inaccurate, but defamatory. You have been working so
> > >hard
> > > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your asylum case.
> >This
> > >is
> > > >what I do not understand about we the Gambians. Anytime we have our
> > > >interests to follow, we will go the extra mile to put our interests
> >above
> > > >our national interest.
> > > >In your most recent lies, you said some folks have been arrested. I
>am
> > >one
> > > >the few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that there was
>no
> > > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This speaks
>volumes
> > > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all seen here.
> > > >
> > > >For Last Card Sey, it was shocking to learn that you are still in
> > > >possession of Gambian government documents that you are selfishly
>using
> > >to
> > > >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was surprising to learn
> > >that
> > > >you have sent falsely signed documents to the Senegalese authorities
>to
> > > >show they were coming from Gambian authorities. What I do not
> >understand
> > >as
> > > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you? In fact, I
>got
> > >from
> > > >reliable sources that the recent Samba Bah case has to do with what
>you
> > > >false signed as Mr. Bah. Having Gambian government staples and
> > >misrepresent
> > > >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government is not
> >pursuing
> > > >that from this end. You have been successfully using a lot of folks
>you
> > > >come in contact with for your selfish interests against the Jammeh
> > >regime.
> > > >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being oppositions, but
> >there
> > > >is so much and everything wrong with being anti-Gambia. Some of us
>even
> > > >with other citizenship identities residing out side The Gambia do not
> >go
> > > >this far to promote our self interests.
> > > >I think what this is all about tells us what kind of people folks
>like
> > >you
> > > >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and will not
> >succeed
> > >in
> > > >being part of any government forever in The Gambia. What you are all
> > >doing
> > > >tell us how you will run your families and your country if
>opportunity
> > >was
> > > >given.
> > > >What I will strongly suggest for some of these individuals you all
> > >defamed
> > > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal actions against you
>even
> > >in
> > > >The Gambia at your absence. I think if convicted, the government of
>the
> > > >Gambia and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you to face the
> > >music.
> > > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop putting our national
> > >interests
> > > >behind our own.
> > > >Good luck to you all.
> > > >
> > > >Alieu Sanyang.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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