Thanks Yero for clarifying that you are not a PDOIS member. I accept
that clarification in good faith. I know Yero you are a nice guy who
will hardly hide his real intentions. The wider issue i raised
concerning Foroyaa not publishing anything from Gainako stance,
reprinting an item from you is too insignificant to warrant
reconsidering the statement.
Secondly, I will not heed to what Modou Nyang said. I show the
reportage without any preconceive judgement. Any independent reader
who is not out to pacify or divert attention would see through the
articles in seconds. But when we for the sake exposing Yahya only
avoid clarifying issues like this, the talk of opposition unity will
be a mere talk.
Modou Nyang wrote at length, and my Uncles are Nyang, i was bais to
read all what he has to say. I can see uncle Nyang is clearly a PDOIS
sympathiser, so i don't wish to further iritate him.
Foroyaa was not in any way defending UDP. The statements are far from that.
Unless PDOIS/Foroyaa realises that hiding behind word-play will never
be accepted by UDP and other Gambian readers to allow it to slip
through, their double standard wil be expose. I have no problems with
the men and women at PDOIS, i only have a problem with their
strategies. That is all. Finally, as you truely said, Gainako.com is
free blame on the subject, my only worry is, you convey a message for
PDOIS against other parties which is not of gainko original making.
Apart from that, 'fof noo bete'. Mbalen Jam.
Thanks
Suntou Bolonba

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> “I will not respond to the Gainako editors simply because both young
>
>
>
> “The views of rival parties shouldn't be republished verbatim.
>
>
>
>  http://suntoumana.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-yahya-can-never-change.html
>
>
>
> Hi Uncle  Suntou,
>
>
>
> Greetings. Anyway good to see you back on this debate. I personally had to
> cancel posting a whole page I typed regarding this matter, because I thought
> the temperature was too high for us to get trapped in the kind of
> distractions. I will keep this one simple while debating a loved one.
>
>
>
> Please go ahead and rectify your first quote, because I am not a PDOIS
> supporter or member. I don’t belong to any political party or organization
> as at now. I am a sympathizer to the opposition and any other oppressed
> Gambian. I have said it over and over that I can only belong to a coalition
> of all political parties.
>
>
>
> If what you said in Quote two above is to go by, then I will ask you to
> remove this piece you published about Yaya in Suntoumana. In fact this is
> the person responsible for Gambia’s problems.
>
>
>
> Anyways, FYI, and the greater readership we are neither PDOIS nor Foroyaa.
> We complement Foroyaa’s effort, like any other news paper. We complement
> PDOIS like any other political party. Personally, I know your take is on
> Foroyaa and PDOIS, and in fact not Gainako. I know this because we
> interacted enough for me to ascertain that.
>
>
>
> FYI, when I wrote a tribute on Dr. Lenrie Peters (of beloved memory), it was
> all over the Point Newspaper and Foroyaa.
>
>
>
> Besides, my humble advice for you is please sought to resolve your
> differences with PDOIS and Foroyaa. If it accumulates in you like seemingly
> observed, it will make you jump on them anytime, in an effort to bring them
> down -even when there is no need to do so. You should heed to Modou Nyang's
> entire advice. Even though writing is subjected to different interpretation,
> you probably missed the message on this one. It was in defense of the
> UDP. Anyways my dear, so much for a debate with you – you will not hear from
> me on this so soon again. I am sure PDOIS and Foroyaa have enough men and
> women to defend their policies.
>
>
>
> Later, & take care,
>
> yj
>
> There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. Fear
> and Worship only Allah alone!
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:34:34 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: [>-<] Political opportunism (Foroyaas coverage of
>> Peters arrest)
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>>
>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray
>> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>>
>>
>> Oceanic, since a few folks hang onto your bona fide comments to gain a
>> window. I will then address you and hopefully that will do. Yes i have
>> bone to pick with Foroyaa. Now tell me, what is the paper, a
>> propaganda tool or a newspaper that we take as independent and
>> objective?
>> I am sure like me, you too and many other people vent their anger at
>> the continuous praise singing of the Observer news paper of our
>> dictator. We all know that paper regularly sings Jammeh's praises.
>> What is the difference between Foroyaa and Observer?
>> Foroyaa like the Observer can pretend to be covering news items
>> independently but that is all it is: pretending.
>> Now Oceanic, you made mention that you live in U.S, which main stream
>> U.S political party has its own newspaper? I am not saying, the main
>> stream broad sheet or tabloid papers don't favour one party as against
>> the other, but the issue is when politicians are directly involve in
>> the reporting, editorial, and publication of a newspaper. The matter
>> is suspect Oceanic.
>>
>> Foroyaa (PDOIS) used the paper to daily unearth venom's against the
>> PPP then, but did also publish response from the PPP to their views?
>> Coming to the matter at hand, look at the subject carefully, because I
>> am not treating your comments like that of the Pa Sambas of this
>> world. Fanatical sycophants with hate filled attitude to all comments
>> unfavourable to their saints.
>> I am taking your comments seriously, i expect the same from you.
>>
>> The headline of any newspaper convey a general message. The headline
>> of Foroyaa is sufficient to see through the facade the editors created
>> around themselves:
>> 1. The headline that 700 people attended the rally.
>> 2. The rally was mostly women and children
>>
>> Another days headline:
>> What did the police said to Peters.
>> In the coverage, they went to the extent of saying endlessly:
>> 1. The subject of meat shortage that Darboe spoke about was covered in
>> their paper.
>> 2. The subject of Jammeh involving in all sectors of Gambian economy
>> was also publicise by there paper.
>> What do you think they are not saying, but hoping readers can pick out?
>> Let us understand that, Sarr the editor is also a politician.
>> Halifa a contributor to the paper is a politician
>> Suwaibou also another contributor is a politician
>> Amie Sillah a contributor is a politician
>>
>> Taking all of that into account and also knowing that PDOIS cannot
>> stand the fact that the UDP have a bigger majority than them. They are
>> willing to die than accept that fact, thus the uncompromising
>> sentiments coming from Halifa on daily basis. So how can Foroyaa
>> attached a specific figures to a rall? Why should they say, it was
>> women and children that were the majority out there? Why should they
>> be saying (all that Darboe said was reported by their paper).
>>
>> If the freedomnews paper, the Gambiajournal, Echo etc said such thing,
>> no one would raise eyebrows Oceanic. The case is different when the
>> intellectual who see no one has capable apart from them report on such
>> rival political matter.
>> If PDOIS also organise a rally and made mention that, "we too have
>> said what Darboe said" and the constitutions provides us such rights,
>> then the matter will be irrelevant, since the platform are the same
>> (rally).
>>
>> I will not respond to the Gainako editors simply because both young
>> men are keen PDOIS supporters, therefore they wouldn't be objective in
>> this matter.
>> The conflict of interest at PDOIS cannot be denied or ignored. The
>> attitude of the editorial board cannot also be ignored, so are the
>> die-hards in U.S. So the game is politics Oceanic, they will always be
>> quiet in matters were they play a political advantageous game. Peter's
>> arrest is unlawfully, the paper should concentrate on that and stop
>> playing smart games. We are ready to see through the paper and its
>> editor, with its sympathisers. Oceanic, thanks for your comments. This
>> is only my humble observation, i intend no malice.
>> Suntou Bolonba
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 PM, OCEANIC LAD <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by OCEANIC LAD
>> > <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >
>> >
>> > My believe is bolongba has a bone to pick with PDOIS/Foroyaa.He should
>> > just come out clean about it.How many more times would he criticize
>> > everything about foroyaa/PDOIS.
>> > I see nothing wrong in the foroyaa news or stories.They are very
>> > realistic and compared and contrast the political scene of the Gambia.
>> >
>> > All what i know is whatever happens ,PDOIS and foroyaa shall remain very
>> > significant in the political and social history of the Gambia.
>> >
>> > Demba Baldeh wrote:
>> >> Suntou,
>> >>
>> >>  In as much as you see Foroyaa as a newspaper you also have to
>> >> understand that the paper is an organ of a political party.  So only if you
>> >> don't understand the role Foroyaa plays that you can be taken by surprise
>> >> that they ponder towards their ideology. If UDP or any other  political
>> >> party had a similar organ they will be promoting their brand more than
>> >> anybody else.
>> >>
>> >>  How would you assess Suntou's blog report issues related to the UDP???
>> >> vs PDOIS or APRC? Sometimes understanding political components goes a long
>> >> way to help one analyse reports. If you see such a skewed report on Gainako
>> >> or senegambia or other more independent papers may be you can call them on
>> >> it....
>> >>
>> >>  Hope that helps clarify so you don't try to make something out of
>> >> nothing...
>> >>
>> >>  Demba
>> >>  On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Dave Manneh < [log in to unmask]
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>  Mr Touray,
>> >>  Please elaborate a little more if you would, on what constitutes
>> >> “Political Opportunism” on Forooya and/PDOIS’ part/s?
>> >>  I’ve read both links you provided, and I am still none the wiser as to
>> >> what could have raised your ire.
>> >>  I suppose most importantly too, why, in your view
>> >> should PDOIS and Foroyaa be two entities; independent and separate from each
>> >> other?
>> >>  Kind Regards,
>> >>  Dave
>> >>  NB: Am at a loose-end presently; having finished one project and not
>> >> started on another. So I've spare time to indulge in cyber chitchat.
>> >>  2009/10/29 suntou touray < [log in to unmask] >
>> >>  [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray <
>> >> [log in to unmask] > ]
>> >>  In has much i wish to avoid focusing on the style the foroyya news
>> >> paper adopted in reporting the UDP rally and subsiquent events, one cannot
>> >> but comment on their strategic ploy to make the issue down bit.
>> >> The Foroyaa reportage culled from www.gainako.com higligthed serious
>> >> opportunism on the part of Foroyaa the arm of PDOIS. They claim that,
>> >> whatever was mention on the UDP rally was reported by their paper. As
>> >> if rallies are the same as news paper items. If it is trust and mutual
>> >> cooperation we are all advocating, the Foroyaa should change its stance and
>> >> see to it that, their views or way is not the only way. We want to respect
>> >> the persons and agendas of all the opposition, try
>> >> to bridge the gabs, therefore, Foroyaa activitiues on this issue is
>> >> unprofessional and politically bias.
>> >> http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2009/10/29/public-meeting-by-political-parties-is-a-constitutional-political-and-civic-right-and-not-a-privilege.html
>> >> .
>> >>  In an earlier coverage on the episode, Foroyya went as far as quote a
>> >> number to the people that attended the rally. Were they guessing or did they
>> >> actually count the number of people that attended the rally?
>> >> Foroyaa should do its best to always be seen to be independent of
>> >> PDOIS, if not their side of stories like this will be rejected and/or taken
>> >> with a pinch of salt.
>> >> http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3750
>> >> Suntou Bolonba
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> chance. We want matters dealing with the UPD, NRP or GMC to be
> reported by an independent reporter of Gainako not republishing a
> piece from Foroyaa.”
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> this matter.”
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