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Cherno Marjo Bah <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr Njie,

Thank you so much for your time and effort invested in forwarding the NADD's
Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

Chi jama
Che


>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: What is NADD's Economic Agenda?
>Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:56:40 +0100
>
>Mr. Bah,
>
>Sorry for adressing you as Mr. Jallow, it was a genuine mistake. I have
>forwarded NADD's MOU for your perusal.
>
>Regards,
>
>Kabir
>
>Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Mr. Jallow,
>
>NADD's coordinator has repeated a hundred times in different media since
>the signing of the MOU what you are asking clarifications for.
>
>You must have missed several mails from the L in order to have missed
>Halifa's repeated explanation about how NADD is governed. As late as a few
>days ago he again stressed how important it was under the long and
>exhaustive negotiations leading to the signing of the MOU how important it
>was to have a coalition in which all parties had equal say irrespective of
>party size, etc and even sited the APRC/NCP so-called merger in which one
>side dominates, and the other is almost never even heard of, as something
>they were conscious in trying to avoid during the long process.
>
>So, if you are genuinely interested in knowing "...whether there is a
>dominant side in the coalition, that if change take place. Being Left,
>right or moderate, a political force that can make the Gambia better than
>today...." whatever that means, please go to the archives of Gambia-L and
>browse the many issues of "Foroyaa" regularly posted here.
>
>As for the "...alarming situation in Kenya and our neighbouring country,
>Senegal...", at least they are not committing murder against their own
>citizens which NADD can certainly be expected not to do either when it
>comes to power; and the citizens of those two countries you cited are able
>to put food on the table and when necessary, take to the street to
>demonstrate without the fear of being massacred.
>
>You wrote:
>
>"...Are all parties involved agreed upon a common plattform at the
>governing of the nation, if the majority of the Gambian people vote NADD
>into power?..."
>
>You sound like someone who has read nothing at all about NADD. Did you read
>the MOU? Could you not throughout the document find the answer to the
>above?!?
>
>You wrote:
>
>"...Allowing a constitutional change of government that lack both the
>ability
>and the capibility to rule a nation could have dyfunctional
>consequences..."
>
>
>I'm supposing here - because I want to believe that you are not insinuating
>that NADD does not have the 'ability' and 'capability' to govern - that you
>are joking.
>
>Regards,
>
>Kabir.
>
>Cherno Marjo Bah wrote:
>Mr Wadda,
>
>The question is, what is NADD's economic agenda? Is not what is PDIOS's
>economic agenda?
>
>I can understand Mr Jallow bringing PDIOS into the picture, prior to the
>economic agenda of NADD. The question, Mr Jallow posed has simply been to
>give an insight into the political interests of the difference political
>parties that form the alliance "NADD". As a result help the Gambian mass to
>assess the viability of a coalition government by the alliance of NADD as a
>whole. We want to learn whether there is a dominant side in the coalition,
>that if change take place. Being Left, right or moderate, a political force
>that can make the Gambia better than today.
>
>The reason for the question of Mr Jalllow to be table in a debate form is
>vital, because of the alarming situation in Kenya and our neighbouring
>country, Senegal, where such alliance had made change of government
>possible, followed by conflict of political interests within the coalition
>government. We are seeing parties withdrawing from the coalition in these
>countries weaken their parlimentary base. Which of cause means, they
>failled
>the people who give them the mandate to rule.
>
>Therefore, it is the interest of all parties to have certain degree of
>awareness on NADD's optimal goals. Are all parties involved agreed upon a
>common plattform at the governing of the nation, if the majority of the
>Gambian people vote NADD into power?
>
>Allowing a constitutional change of government that lack both the ability
>and the capibility to rule a nation could have dyfunctional consequences.
>
>Chi jama
>Che
>
>
>What is NADD's Economic Agenda?
>
>
> >From: Baboucarr Wadda
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: What is NADD's Economic Agenda?
> >Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 23:57:07 -0500
> >
> >Ebou,
> >I think you didn't really understand the concept of socialism with
>regards
> >to PDOIS and that of the way developing countries need to get of this
> >current mess. You need to revisit a PDIOS manifesto for the last election
> >too. I think that will help you to equip yourself with a comprehensive
> >background to start this debate. It is completely misleading for you to
> >simply imply that PDIOS have a "socialist outlook and others democratic".
> >Let me remind you what PDOIS stands for: Peoples Democratic Organisation
> >for
> >Independence and Socialism. So i can't still understand how you come to
> >your
> >conclusion. I will be glad if you can ellaborate on this. You might be
> >right
> >about the economic ideology of PDOIS being different from the other
> >parties(
> >which from my point of view is not that much different from that of any
> >gov't of any developing country that want to get out this mess). The main
> >point is that develop the productive base of the economy. This can be
>done
> >by investing in these productive sectors of the economy from the national
> >cake(budget) equally( on the bases of how much each of these sectors
> >contribute to the national wealth). It is not fair for one sector of
> >society
> >to enjoy at the expense of others. In The Gambia for instance, some
>sectors
> >having contributing to the national cake for decades without anything in
> >return, also the people have being paying taxes to their area councils
>and
> >gov't for ages without any development of any sort.
> >Ebou, just try and lay hand on that manifesto. You have all rights to
> >differ
> >with this ideology, but do it with honesty and not by misleading our poor
> >masses. Stop misleading the masses about the ideals of PDOIS. The likes
>of
> >Ebou know that majority of our people can't read and it takes much effort
> >for one to explain for them to understand these ideals.
> >Most Fracophone countries have socialist gov'ts ruling for a long time
> >since
> >independence. Senegal is one example in our midst. Prof. Shiekh Anta Jobe
> >and other Pan-African leaders having been advocating for these ideals as
> >the
> >only way we can over come our plight and catch up with the trend of
> >globalization of our time.
> >You need to do more rearch and enlightening yourself about this subject
> >matter before we can start this debate proper. Later.
> >
> >Peace!
> >
> >
> >>From: Ebou Jallow
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: What is NADD's Economic Agenda?
> >>Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:19:05 -0700
> >>
> >>NADD's economic agenda shall be a very interesting read in anticipation
>of
> >>a party manifesto and some few necessary clarifications. Honestly, both
> >>Halifa and Waa have been systematically evasive on the truth of the
>facts.
> >>NADD was registered a political party and any other spinning of that
>fact
> >>into a "political entity" , "alliance" or "party of parties" is an
> >>absolute
> >>nebulous nonsense. The IEC registers only political parties and nothing
> >>else.
> >>This brings us to a more troubling fact/problem about NADD: how can one
> >>pull off a merger of diverse political platforms of rival parties into
>an
> >>effective union in law ? PDOIS is socialist in outlook, and essentially
> >>all
> >>the rest of other parties claim to be "democratic". In effect one can
> >>reasonably expect NADD's economic agenda to be social democratic, i.e
> >>socialism and capitalism combined. Such a syncretism engenders
> >>contradictions in practice: Socialism is based on self-sacrifice, and
> >>Capitalism is fundamentally based on self-interest- it sounds like
>mixing
> >>oil with water. The two are simply incompatible in a country with a weak
> >>economic base and low level of productivity such as the Gambia.
> >>
> >>In any case, I would love to see what NADD is all about as a political
> >>party.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ebou Jallow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>africa fest wrote:
> >>
> >>does any one know whether such info is available somewhere? or do we
>have
> >>to wait until after the 2006 elections and if they win then it will be
> >>presented?
> >>
> >>latjor
> >>
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