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Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:52:48 +0200
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Jabou,
It is very difficult to control the provincial birth ( PB ), because many years
back, there was only one health centre taking care of a whole district, and not
everybody got the possibility of reaching the health centre to register their
births. This is why they demand for the attestation of birth for people in the
provinces. Alkalolos, chiefs and village elders can be corrupted to attest a
person`s birth, and he will be legally awarded a birth certificate. Now, if you
get a birth certificate, you cannot be prevented an ID Card. If you get an ID
Card plus birth certificate, you cannot be prevented a voter`s card. If you get a
birth certificate, ID Card, Voter`s card, then nobody can prevent you from
getting a passport. If you get all the above four, then you become a legal
Gambian citizen. All the confusion happens in the provinces, and it is very
difficult to control. It needs a proper screening. I can point you up to 60
senegalease in the Niumis and Jokadu possessing all the above four, and they got
them during the PPP regime.
In the case of the City birth ( CB ), such things could not occur, because of the
clinics and hospitals, they were able to register their births and records were
kept. It is more easier to trace City birth (CB ) than to trace Provincial birth
( PB ). For the city births, you can check on the notification of birth by
checking the mother`s name, and then you will trace directly the person`s date of
birth. So it is more difficult to register a foreigner in the Urban areas. The
easiest way is to register them in the Rural areas by corrupting the elders,
Alkalolos and chiefs. So you see, all the corruption began by issuing the
foreigner a birth certificate.
Elhajj.

Jabou Joh skrev:

> Dear Sanusi,
>
> Thank you very much for this information.
> If i understand this information correctly, is it a provision of the
> Constitution then that a person has to be entered on a register of voters
> before they can actually cast a vote provided that all other stated
> requirements have been met, or is the entry on a register not actually
> necessary?
>
>  One more question: Is there anything in the Constitution regarding the
> ability of the IEC to make changes to  allow voters who are not on the
> register to vote if the constitution is saying that one has to be on a list
> to vote?
>
> Also, the list of documents that a person has to provide in order to be
> listed in a constituency are all documents that would prove citizenship, i.e,
> the birth certificate and the passport since you have to produce a birth
> certificate or an attestation of birth in The Gambia in order to get a birth
> certificate.
>
> However, what is the identification needed in order for a person to obtain a
> national Identity card?
> Has the national Identity card always been a part of this list or is this new
> on this new constitution?
> Sorry for the many questions.
> Again, your assistance is greatly appreciated Sanusi.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> In a message dated 10/25/2001 9:52:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> >
> > Aunty Jabou
> >
> > I am going to assist here:
> >
> > The rule governing the eligibility of voters is
> > stipulated in the following legislations;
> > (1)The Elections Decree of 1996, No 78
> > (2) The Constitution of The Gambia of 1997.
> >
> > Section 39 (1) of the 1997 Constitution states that
> > every Every Citizen of the Gambia being eighteen years
> > or older and of sound mind shall have the right to
> > vote for the purpose of a Presidential and members of
> > the National Assembly and shall be entitled to be
> > registered as a voter in a National Assembly
> > Constituency.
> >
> > Section 12 of the Elections Decree states that ....a
> > person shall be entitled to have his name entered on a
> > register of voters in a constituency if
> > (a) he is a citizen of the Gambia
> > (b) he has attained or will on the date of the holding
> >
> > of the next election, attain the age of eighteen years
> > and that
> > (c) he is resident or was born in that constituency
> > Notwithstanding subsection(1), a person's name shall
> > not be entered on a register of voters in a
> > constituency unless he produces one of the follow3ing
> > documents;
> > (a) a birth certificate
> > (B) a Gambian Passport
> > (c) a National Identity Card or
> > (d) a document certified by five elders residing in
> > the place of birth of the applicant stating that the
> > applicant was born in that place.
> >
> > So this is the legal position, there is only  one
> > legal hurdle left that is the question of Citizenship.
> > Given that the Gambia does not recognise Dual
> > Nationality, the business of people from Cassamance
> > being registered as voters sparks a legal dispute.
> >
> > Just a thought, Any comments.
> >
> > Sanusi Owens
> >
> > --- Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > In a message
> > dated 10/25/01 6:46:39 AM Central
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > > On 25 Oct 2001, at 7:20, TOMBONG SAIDY wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ADMIN. AREA     TOTAL NO. VOTES
> > > > > & CONSTITUENCY VOTERS CAST %T/O BAH   DARBOE
> > > DIBBA   JAMMEH  JATTA
> > > >
> > > > > NIANI   7464    7877    105.53% 975     2398
> > > 121     4277    99
> > > >
> > > > Tombong,
> > > > Is the above an error or did Naini have 105,53%
> > > who voted?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Momodou Camara,
> > >
> > > This is the question we are tryin to determine also.
> > > There is also another
> > > constituency whose votes totaled 105%. Another point
> > > that Tombong raised in
> > > answer to my request for a definition of voter
> > > eligibility was that we should
> > > refer to the IEC and the Constitution. Voter
> > > eligibility was chnaged to
> > > include those voters not on the list a few hours
> > > before the start of the
> > > elections.
> > >
> > > Can anyone on the list or perhaps at PDOIS assist us
> > > with answers to the
> > > question of voter eligibility as described in the
> > > Gambian Constitution? Does
> > > the Constitution allow for changes in eligibility as
> > > was done on the eve of
> > > the elections?
> > > Assistance from anyone will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh
> > >
> > >
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