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Hi Yanks,

Yes Bruv!

“Memoranda: I am disappointed you sign off with "Nemesis Yanks". It takes 
away from the gravitasse of your argument. I understand your disposition 
vis-a-vis Tunkara, but I think that signature inures animus. And I declare you do 
not intend such. I encourage you to keep it simple and focused. Another more 
benign signature as to Tunkara is advised”. Haruna

[Brother far from inuring animosity, my signature is just a choice of phrase 
to conclude my write ups it has no bearing of vendetta. It was once 
expressed that I use it to people that I perceived as enemies, but this is not the 
case. It is just one of my phrases: Brethren Yanks or Nemesis Yanks. The choice 
depends on my familiarity with the person.] Yanks.

“Brethren Yanks sounds better to me”. Haruna

As you wish brother!

“I keep getting sidetracked with your numerous quotes of disparate persons 
and epoch. While this attaches significance to the quotes, it risks relegating 
your commentary to groping for acknowledgement and I find some of the 
quotations ineffectual. Hemingway, Einstein, Kant, and Nixon lecterns for 
different epochs. The idea for such quotations in law is the establishment of 
precedence in law and deterrence of crime. In your case, you have established 
that Nderry's crimes are complete and you consider measured punishment”. Haruna

[Brother far from groping for acknowledgement my use of quotes are to make a 
persuasive point. That is to tell the reader that this point I’m stating has 
been shared with so and so of this epoch. Besides as Socrates rightly puts 
it: “employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that 
you shall gain easily what others have laboured hard for”. 
In common law, quotation of legislation or legal precedents are used to tell 
the judge conducting a trial that this is not words of mine but those of a 
judge who had been at your position or above your position or that of the 
legislation. I’m sorry you find my quotes ineffectual but that would not avert me 
from my long tradition of quoting honourable men of great accolade to support 
my point in debates, writings or speeches.] Yanks.

“I did not know you were engaged in debate. Further, the value of Ellen is to 
discourage litigation or fight among community members. It is a place where 
we can share ideas and alternatives to punitive and injurious courses of 
action by community members. There is enormous value however in quoting 
"honourable men of great accolade to support your point in debate". I share 
ideas in value-quotation”. Haruna

I never said I was engaged in a debate but that I will use quotes in debates, speeches and writings. 
About the exchange of ideas Brother: “Our ideas are only intellectual instruments which we use to break a phenomena; we must change them when they serve their purpose, as we change a blunt lancet that we have used long enough”. Claude Bernard 1813-78. My punitive injurious is an idea, but just as John Locke rightly stated: “New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed, without any other reason but because they are not common”. I think this speaks volumes for my course here. Besides “What we need is hatred. From it ideas are born”. Jean Garnet 1910-86



“As regards Nderry's crimes, I have shared with you that I hold no brief for 
the man, neither do I believe him benign. However, I encourage you to 
consider this: 
Nderry's custody of a list of his informants, or his publication of a list 
of informants, accurate or not, and malicious or not, does not in itself 
warrant Yahya's wrongful arrest, detention, imprisonment, or murder of any 
person or persons in such list. In other words, I rather hold Yahya to a higher 
standard of due-diligence than I do Nderry. This is even if I believe Yahya to be 
aversed by Nderry's informants. I encourage you therefore to de-link 
Nderry's crimes of slander and libel and gaucherie, from Yahya's pre-dispositions 
and or actions. Do not attach more significance to Nderry than he is due. It is 
a heavy burden for the invalid to have to consider authority of another 
person's ware. He must first be of sound mind and body”. Haruna

[Brother the damage of Nderry’s negligence here has been done and innocent 
people have been victimised. Whether Jammeh did the detention, imprisonment 
or murder is not and issue of dispute; but would it have happen if Nderry had 
taken the precautionary measures? This is a question of causation; it would 
not have happen but for his action or inaction it happened. He was in custody 
of people’s personal information how that ended up in Jammeh’s hands is still 
a mystery to me. At the end of the day people suffered while Pa Nderry 
benefited by gaining his refugee status in the US. What a coincidence!] Yanks.


“Exactly. Nderry therefore could be accused of Negligence or not exercising 
ample due-diligence to protect the privacy of his correspondents. However, he 
cannot be charged with any of the crimes of detention, imprisonment, or 
murder, or accessories thereto. It is reasonable to suspect Nderry's intentions or 
motives for yielding Asylum out of the matter, but consider that the Asylum 
protected Nderry from deportation, arrest, detention, and murder, and is 
valuable for the safety of his person but not the commission of crimes against 
other because there was no evidence to support such intent or action on 
Nderry's part prior”. Haruna

The issue I reiterate is not a negligence issue that is civil law of Torts, this is a criminal matter and the Issue is about causation of the crime not relating to custody. Causation is the issue here. Negligence is a breach of duty damage at the tale end; this case crime at the tale end that cannot be negligent but criminal. Remember there victims of this crime still seeking for justice. Innocent men and women, who would not have suffered from Jammeh but for Pa Nderry’s actions or inactions, Simple!

“As to Free On-Line Tabloid, this outfit does serve a value. Not to me of 
course but to the Life of credence. Remember that The Daily Observer, itself a 
Tabloid, operates in a lawless atmosphere replete with gossip, slander, and 
innuendo. It is in this quest that it sought to violate the rights to privacy 
of a peer tabloid, the Free On-Line, by surreptitiously publishing the 
latter's list of correspondents without necessary due-diligence in vetting for 
value and accuracy. And, the desire or intent to do harm therefore to any in the 
list, is the domain of The Daily Tabloid. I wonder if you're with me. In 
effect, The Free On-Line Tabloid did not exhibit intent, nor did it act on 
perceived intent by supplying the list to the The Daily Tabloid. Might we therefore 
conclude, that whatever our impression of Nderry, the crimes of arrest, 
detention, and murder, or accessory thereto, have not been completed by Nderry. 
Now this does not speak to the colour or character of the persons on Nderry's 
database”. Haruna

[In fact Bro, freedom newspaper first published the list before observer 
copied it a day or two later.] Yanks.

“Yanks, I did not know this to be the case. I thought Nderry's site was 
hacked and via a proxy server, the database was published as if Nderry had 
published it. In other words his email protocol were spoofed. If you are correct in 
that Nderry actually published the info himself, then it will have been an 
aggregious crime punishable by death, or de-minimis, must be prosecuted”. Haruna

Brother, say that’s what you believe, my believe is different! What happen to the law suits? If you remember well, first it was Ebou Jallow, who did the hacking, then it was some company in Southampton, UK, and then George Sarr tracked it to somewhere in China. It’s all baloney! 

[But this is not just the crime Nderry has committed, Nderry has been using 
a 'by-line' of Buba Jammeh from state house. In fact there was a soldier from 
Brikama by that name at the state house, who ended up serving one year in 
Mile two central prison.] Yanks.

“Again I was not aware of this. If true, Nderry has displayed odious 
ignorance and negligence or at the extreme malicious injury on any Buba Jammeh 
anywhere in Gambia. He could have exercised due-diligence in using names not familiar 
to Gambia even if any of his informants were named Buba Jammeh, which I doubt very 
seriously. And that is why I hold Yahya to a higher standard of due-diligence not to arrest, 
detain, or mistreat any person named Buba Jammeh simply because the invalid Nderry, out 
of ignorance and uncouth malice, may have represented them "informants". Haruna

I guess there is a lot more that you don’t know about Nderry’s crimes. I have a dossier of it, remember I’m a victim, I can tell you the pain it felt!

[But shortly after Sgt Buba Jammeh’s arrest Nderry stopped using that by 
line on Freedom. What does that tell, certainly from the authorities in Banjul's 
point of view they had caught the right person?]. Yanks.

“Yanks, indeed Nderry has demonstrated excruciatingly poor judgements and 
hightened and malignant unprofessionalism witness my alleging him decrepit 
invalid. However, it could mean severe shortcoming in acumen and professionalism 
and not necessarily intentional administration of harm, bodily injury, and or detention 
on Buba. And these are the reasons why I suggest you reconsider the mode and scope 
punishment for these crimes of the inferior mind”. Haruna

Excruciatingly indeed and he continue to demonstrate that more often that’s why his victims levelling Jammeh’s. 

Tell me brother how do I change a punishment, so simple as setting up an on line newspaper to counter the evil of Pa Nderry. You want me to seat and wait till you too hit the freedom headlines. Now you can see my altruistic nature. 

[Another point is that how come more than the hundred people, who suffered 
either directly or indirectly from the freedom newspaper fracas; there was no 
relative, not even a distance cousin, of Pa Nderry involved. I guess Brother 
we can call that another coincidence.] Yanks.

“I understand your suspicion. However, considering the other crimes of 
Nderry, this could be merely coincidental and still the workings of a dis-eased 
mind. In other words by default thereof and not design”. Haruna

I did state we can call it a coincidence; shall we agree on that!

“The only other crime you accuse Nderry of is his affect on the dissolution 
of NADD. I think anything other than disappointment in Nderry will be 
stretching it a bit as regards NADD. No one is to blame for the dissolution of 
NADD but the parties to the conversation that was NADD. Further, no one is to be 
commended for any achievements of NADD but the parties to the NADD 
conversation. Besides, Nderry, believing he has as much of an interest in NADD 
as You, Tunkara, or myself, reserves a right to affect the quality and character of 
any NADD, with or without our demonstration of our own interests and their 
scope. I encourage you to indemnify Nderry of any liability or credit for NADD 
and its ware. The NADD participants are persons of major age and of sound body 
and mind”. Haruna

[Brother Pa Nderry cannot be indemnified of NADD dissolution, he was running 
a public medium where he carelessly allowed every Tom and Jerry to express 
their personal vendetta against the coalition members; this generates 
animosity in any coalition. It is true that NADD members did contribute to the 
dissolution of NADD but freedom did not help.] Yanks.

“Indeed Yanks. No matter how disappointed you are in this regard, and for the 
fact that Free On-Line Tabloid did not help the fortunes of NADD, Nderry or 
his Tabloid still did not commit any crime vis-a-vis NADD. If anything, 
Nderry may have done us all a favour by arresting NADD for it demonstrated the 
acumen and sobriety of the NADD partners if their deliberations could be so 
guided by Nderry and Free On-Line Tabloid. We may wish to thank Nderry therefore 
for the dissolution of a sick NADD”. Haruna 

We will continue to thank him for many more dissolutions to come!

[There is a room for contemplation that Pa Nderry did not want NADD to work, 
simply if they had won the election he would not have succeeded in his 
Asylum claim in the United States.] Yanks.

“This is too speculative and unreasonable. I do not agree with you here, 
regardless of our perceptions of Nderry's motives to be. I do not see how the 
ware of a prospective NADD can affect any asylum proceedings of anyone”. Haruna

Just like I do not agree with your disagreement; I guess we can say: we agree to disagree on this point.

“I do believe Nderry has committed the crimes of libel and slander against 
some persons, including yourself and Abdoukarim among many others. The 
question then becomes; How you the aversed hold Nderry liable for crimes on 
your persons. But I do not believe he has committed any crime against NADD (an 
intractable victim), the persons in his list of "informants" who fell prey to 
other's illegal actions, or for the mere proprietorship of a Free On-Line Tabloid. 
The outfit risks committing fraudulent agency and benign decrepitude, but 
those are the same crimes The Daily Tabloid commits. Now then in the realm of 
comparative crimes, I submit that the two tabloid are generically antidotes 
of each other”. Haruna

[Brother I’m glad you acknowledged that truth that Pa Nderry is a criminal. 
The crimes he committed against me; Karim, Sadibu Jadama, Sheriff Bojang, Mr 
Low, Fatoumata Jahumpa, PK Jarju, Yorro Jallow, Muhamed Jawara, Yankuba 
Jambamg, the list goes on. Brother these crimes are still pending; if only I was 
in America I would have been in court with Pa Nderry. How do you think people 
view us now? It is a scar that we carry with us every day. It worried Sheriff 
Bojang so much that he had to call Nderry to beg him. People don’t know the 
fear Pa Nderry has instilled in the minds of ordinary Gambians. People call 
me like I had an accident, every one was worried about me like “Njalahirr” 
has knocked at my door, but that is the Cruelty of Pa Nderry!] Yanks.

“I understand your chagrin and indeed Nderry did commit crimes against some 
of these persons. And if its any consolation, I advise that you do not have to 
be in America to file suit for redress against Nderry for the crimes are 
international in nature and Nderry's residence is immaterial in this regard. 
Perhaps this is a better, wiser course of action than expenditures in another 
Tabloid aimed at bringing Free On-line Tabloid down. Should you desire to pursue 
the legal avenue, I will be totally in support of you the victims of 
Nderry's unprofessionalism and negligence. If you consider it more, litigation could 
convince Nderry to either change his ways, apologise to those he has harmed (whether 
he intended to or not), or even cease and desist with the Tabloid. Let me know if you, Karim, 
and other victims wish to pursue this wiser course of action rather than what I believe to be 
the foolhardy and vainglorious pursuit of evil to counter evil”. Haruna

Brother; I thought jurisdictional issues might be a problem, but if you so wish; it will be a great strive for humanity in bringing this monster to book. I have my own evidence they are right in the archives of Freedom Newspaper itself. Please just find me an attorney and let’s see where to begin. This is my strife, for I believe, I have been wronged unjustly. So may be we can begin with my case first and hopefully America will rise to the realisation of a lawless newspaper in it jurisdiction that is responsible for genocide in the Gambia. 

I have pictures and articles from “Reporters without Borders” about the crimes of Pa Nderry. It will be an interesting case. May be it will set a legal precedent in America for online publishers to take due diligence in what they publish. Publishers must always have consideration to the effect of their actions; it’s a simple rational question. The BBC would not allow an interview with Lamin Cham, who was their correspondence in Banjul at the time, because it feared for his safety. Since he could be re-arrested if he should give an interview, shortly after being freed, even though angered Mr Cham had demanded so. It's worth pointing to you that Mr Cham too was arrested becuase of his links with the freedom newspaper fracas. Haruna; the BBC showed care in this case if any journalist or online publisher can't show that care they should be ceased than to continue to put lives at risked. You don't even no how serious i am. I might be lonely voice but i speak of the truth. You just find me an attorney! I will speak to Sheriff, uncle Sadibu, Fatoumatta Jahumpa Ceesay and Karim. Brother do us a favour and get us an attorney give him my number and I will find out the merits of our case. I don’t know much about the American legal system but I believe one can find justice even in America! 

[We can agree to disagree; but Pa Nderry in my books is a criminal just like 
his accomplish Yahya Jammeh! And I will never agree to the alternative!] 
Brethren Yanks.

“I advise tempered and proprietary justice”. Haruna

Justice has no temper!

Brethren Yanks 

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