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Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr Khan,
        Talk about self-righteousness!!!
I do not understand why every time you contribute on the forum, its gotta be what you
used to do and how you used to do it. I mean, maybe it would better if you should
write an autobiography for all to read.
You or anyone else can write whatever he/she wishes about PDOIS and Halifa, for am
sure those guys are very capable of responding for themselves, but the
branding/classifying of people who dare support the party as fanatics, praise-singers
or any other epithet for that matter is totally unnecessary.

Some of you guys on the list are just unbelievable. If this nonsense you wrote is not
pettiness, I would like you to tell what is. Because someone did not buy Foroyaa,
does not mean that they should not disagree with what Mr Kanteh wrote, which is
within his right to do so (Mr Kanteh's). Am sorry if I did not understand fully well
what you wrote, for after all am not someone who reads or writes good English.

Cynical, insidious plot you dared write. Please give us a break. If one dissents to
Halifa and co, its cool, but if one dissents to Mr Kanteh he/she is being insidious
and cynical. Are you for real, Saul?? Does this not sound double standards to your
brilliant intelligent mind? If you know PDOIS and Halifa as you are trying portraying
here, then it should be abundantly clear to you that hero worshipping is not
something Halifa wants from likes of me ("cynical, insidious, mis-guided programmed
fanatics")

Practice what you preach, mate, for this posting of yours is very contradictory to
say the least. If you believe one should put Halifa to task, why can't you in the
same token see that one equally has a to disagree with what Halifa's critics has to
say/write? It looks and sound clear cut to me.

Just my observation, nothing to warrant a furore, I hope, and I unreservedly
apologize in advance if I did not understand fully well what your contribution was
all about, for as I said, my command of the English language has much to be desired
for.

Have a good weekend

Manneh

saul khan wrote:

> Lye,
>
> I identify with your sentiments wholly. I guess some of us simply cannot
> discuss issues without casting the actors as "good cop/Bad cop." It's very
> irritating, and more importantly, it doesn't do PDOIS or any party for that
> matter any good. The situation of PDOIS especially is very unfortunate. This
> wrangling should not be happening at all. Educated Gambians like you and I
> in our thirties, and those younger, are by default -if not by manifest
> design, "The PDOIS Generation." We grew up hating the PPP, we really don't
> see much of a future in any other party but PDOIS. So we follow them
> religiously. As dirt poor a student as I was, I used to cough up D2.50 to
> buy some PDOIS issues rather than spend the money on a thousand and one
> other things I could be. And for the Sana Manneh case, I bought EVERY single
> issue including the Supplementary ones. I was actually a teacher at St.
> Theresa's during much of that trial. I was actually making D198/mo for two
> months. Then I got a raise to D329/mo. House rent, car fare, PDOIS money.
> Get the picture?
>
> I've always had a huge PDOIS stack sitting on a table in my little
> apartment. When I came to the US, I brought a whole stack with me. In
> typical Gambian style, people would "borrow" some NEVER TO RETURN THEM. But
> I was going thru my books some weeks ago, and located some of those
> newspapers. I'll give you a sample:
>
> ISSN: 0796-0573, No 19/91, Dated Oct 5th, 1991; Prez' Tour, Arrests &
> Detentions (Kukoi,) Death of a Gendarme, etc.
>
> ISSN: 0796-0573, No 19/91 Foroyaa Supplement Dated Oct 21st, 1991; Sanna
> Manneh V. Attny Gen before Court of Appeal.
>
> ISSN: 0796-0573, No 19/91 Foroyaa Supplement Dated Oct 23rd, 1991;
> Dr. Oldfield and others testify
>
> ISSN: 0796-0573, No 20/91 Dated Oct 30th, 1991; The NSS & the Kukoi Drama,
> Stabbing at Hospital, etc
>
> and from 1989: ISSN 0795-0573 No. 13/89 Dated JULY 15th, 1989; The Sanna
> Manneh Ruling, Lives at Stake, An eye opener, etc, etc.
>
> There goes your former PDOIS freak. And I won't even go into the tapes I
> bought, or how I used to brave 100 degrees temperatures with friends to walk
> to Kanifing, or Roxy Cinema to listen to PDOIS symposia, etc. That was how
> PDOIS I was. So, excuse me for getting angry at being called names just
> because I dare say PDOIS' approach towards Yaya Jammeh, and some of the
> things they've said and done during the so-called Transition are shameful.
> How many of these so-called PDOIS supporters would rather buy Foroyaa (and
> support PDOIS,) than be rational and spend their only few Dalasi on food?
> There's a world of difference between sincerity and foolish praise-singing,
> you know. But, to butress your point, these people are not doing PDOIS any
> good.
>
> Instead of lashing out at those who dare dissent, or at least raise eye
> brows, the proper stance would be to admit past mistakes, and work on
> improving them. But unfortunately, what we see is a cynical and insidious
> plot to demonize anyone who confesses his/her resolve to take PDOIS
> positions with a pinch of salt. The "questions" posed to Hamjatta fall in
> that category -to me. The motivating, and over-riding factor is not to make
> us any wiser, but to "expose" what a hypocrite Hamjatta is. That is not the
> proper way to cultivate, or help a public figure cultivate an informed
> following. If Mr. Kanteh were feeble-hearted, he would have chickened out by
> now, and unsatisfied, go around spreading mischief to anyone who has the
> time to listen to him. And I'll add: LIKE MOST Gambians DO! But, is this the
> way we want to move forward? Where is the progress here?
>
> You see Lye, back in the late 80s, Jawara had a Press Conference, and Sam
> Sarr represented PDOIS. Sam asked Jawara a question. Jawara answered. Being
> live, I guess Jawara saw in Mr. Sarr's face that the gentleman wasn't buying
> his story. Jawara did something very unfair: he asked Mr. Sarr if he
> believed what he (Jawara) said. Naturally, Mr. Sarr did not want to answer
> the question. (Reason: If he answers truthfully, he'll offend Jawara. If he
> doesn't he'll have to deal with his conscience by lying.) But Jawara
> persisted. So, Sam Sarr answered truthfully: "Well Sir, I have my doubts!"
> (the exact words.) Jawara fumed, so did the entire establishment. "PDOIS
> people are very rude, and arrogant" was the verdict. Jawara declared that he
> won't talk to them again as long as they're going to be rude to him. Since
> when has confessing one's doubts translate into rudeness? Honesty equals
> "rudeness?" C'mon!!! I remember that incident as if it was yesterday. Some
> old man told me years ago that having a good memory could be a curse. Was he
> being senile? You tell me.
>
> So when I saw the "questions" posed to Hamjatta, I immediately flashed back
> to Sam Sarr - Prez Jawara, because there's an obvious parrarel. It's like
> d'eja vu all over. You see, in my book, we'll NEVER progress as long as we
> apply different rules to different people, who by virtue of their status
> should be on an equal footing. What is wrong for Jawara to do to Sam Sarr,
> is wrong for Halifa Sallah, or some self-appointed proxy to do to Hamjatta
> Kanteh. Justice means treating equals equally, or unequals unequally! The
> most Mr. Sallah or the PDOIS org. should do to a Hamjatta Kanteh is to say
> "Mborr, I've answered your questions the best I can; you're still
> unsatisfied, I don't have any more to say to you. Beleive what you want." Or
> something like that. But to encourage this petty, insidious and cynical
> attempt by a few mis-guided blind supporters to slash-and-burn anyone who
> asks disturbing questions is another shameful episode in PDOIS' evolution.
> PDOIS could and should behave better. Let this nonsense (Hamjatta This,
> Hamjatta That) end!
>
> Saul.
>
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